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Universe 4 / Re: What a legit hit! (pfft)
« on: August 05, 2016, 01:20:35 AM »
Since you clearly don't know what happened, allow me to inform you about what I know.

Doom sent out an "I quit" message to all of his buddies.
I was watching very closely 7 days after that, but to no avail.
15 days after "I quit" he went "i"
I had FRSed early that day, much to my chagrin, so I got nothing.
A member of LOL saw "i" and took out Doom's Heph, and got a couple of his smaller planets.
I was able to build a probe and set up a GD on his main fleet, just in case.
Big Bad Bob saw the "i" and sent a MAC

The next day, Doom went back into D-mode, sent me a message (pissed he forgot to log in), and threw me a few mill in res.  I was expecting to watch closely again after 7 days.

BBB's MAC landed, but Doom was already in D.

a couple days later, Doom came out of D, and I was able to get a probe on the GD, and, about 8 hours later, picked up 76k in DSP.
BBB teamed up with Carbon to take out Doom's fleet.

So, while it could have been set up, I don't think it was.

More likely, Doom just said F-it, and BBB was already there.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 10, 2016, 02:18:55 AM »
....bfg is just a lil erratic about enforcing rules...
Which is exactly the point...
Almost 10 years, and still no clear rules about what is and is not ok because It's always a "case by case" decision, and there's no transparency, so it looks like special treatment for some players.

...and I agree about Mama.  I understand he was pissed, but it was uncalled for to take it out on another player, and it derailed what should have been the point to this thread...that the suspensions were wrongly applied based on how the rules are actually written, and based on past (and published/documented) interpretations of those rules

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 09, 2016, 06:57:14 PM »
Jason, Jan 27, 10:18:
It is not illegal to let other players know that you are quitting, as long as you don't actively set up a retirement party.

In other words... post on your alliance boards..."I am quitting" and anything that comes after is perfectly legal!

Thanks BFG!!! smartest ruling ever seen

Latest update

And tell me what is the difference it these statements

a)   I am quitting, my fleet will be in xx.xx.xx and you can hit anytime
b)   I am quitting, my fleet is on planets
c)   I am quitting, will move my heph to xx.xx.xx
d)   I am quitting, will leave my heph in xx.xx.xx
e)   I am quitting, you know where to find my fleet
f)   I am quitting!!!

Which one is against your rules?

Jason, Jan 27, 15:36:
All but f would be considered illegal.

Interesting, if true...This would be contrary to what I remember rulings being 5-6 years ago, but not a violation for this case.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 09, 2016, 02:01:47 AM »
two members of my alliance quit...I did not hit them as that's guys are mostly top experienced players and know no whining...oh..and no, I'm not a big spender..have fun and remember its just a game!

Ken, unless things have changed in the time since I last played, there is nothing illegal (nor has there ever been) about hitting alliance members.  I've hit many the alliance member, in SFCO, SDE,  and this uni.
What make's it illegal is if the retirement is announced in the alliance board and not to the general public. 
We, also, had an alliance member quit, and waited until (i) because she had announced and bid her farewells on ONLY the alliance board.  Given the level of inactivity in this Uni, no one was surprised to find her ships still intact, waiting to be blown up by me and a friend.

This was not the case here...As was stated, he changed the names of all planets to "retired,"  thus announcing it to everyone.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 09, 2016, 12:17:33 AM »
But, to say that BFG would only suspend if they had a valid reason is not only stupid, but asinine.

Also having personal knowledge of suspensions based on accusation with no proof, I second this...ok...actually you're seconding me, because I already implied that this was the case.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 08, 2016, 08:23:40 PM »
a retiring player being hit within 2hrs of renaming his planets ... by his own alliance mates , is always suspicious

Perhaps I'm mistaken.  I can only judge by what I saw and remember.

The player in question renamed his planets 40-some hours ago.
I noticed the DFs yesterday, 20-some hours ago.

so...within 20 hours, not 2.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 08, 2016, 06:46:11 PM »
I do not believe Jason would suspend without some sort of proof, even the player anouncing my fleet is at xxx, is considered as pre-arrangement, even though anyone can pretty much probe every planet to check..
Jason would only suspend if he saw there was a such an arrangement.. I know many that have got away with retirement parties, that Jason would not suspend wiithout the proof

Good thing then that we have this level of transparency...otherwise we'd have to operate on faith.

but, then, it's also good I have complete faith in BFG...My faith works as intended, and isn't actually a bug, though I'm going to fix it in the next patch.

Universe 4 / Re: Got my first suspension EVER! SWEET!
« on: June 08, 2016, 06:23:08 PM »
Howdy Chums,
Sorry about the suspension.

Have to say, though I understand rules about fleet crashing, this is just BFG arbitrary enforcement.

The rule being enforced would seem to be this: "pre-arranging for a player to destroy ships left on a planet"

I didn't get in on this, but I know nothing was pre-arranged.  [the player] left the game and changed all his planets to "retired."
If that's not an announcement to everyone, I don't know what is.

At what point would his ships be fair game?
at (i)?  That's absurd.  I would notice "retired" within a few hours, but because we're in the same alliance, I'm not allowed to probe and attack him?

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