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Starfleet Commander => Tournament Universe => Topic started by: Mythos on July 23, 2013, 10:56:31 PM

Title: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Mythos on July 23, 2013, 10:56:31 PM
Seems you need more the 1000 RSP to get out of newbie protection. Not that I'm pointing fingers but how dose someone get 1000 DSP when only their alliance plus one is out of protection. Nobody dropped in the standings either? It doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on July 23, 2013, 10:58:22 PM
Looks like people are probing Riker then?

The odd one for me is the no 2 that has been in p mode, so how to acumulate 100 DSP when in p?
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 23, 2013, 10:59:55 PM
#1 attacked #2 and got owned, but is still #1.

Battle Report for SCOTCH ‎[] less than a minute ago
To: Riker
Date: 2013-07-23 20:55:26 UTC
In the attack from Here-I-Am ‎‎‎[] on SCOTCH ‎‎‎[]:

The attacking side acquired 0 resources.

b-low-me (ATTACKER) lost 1,010 RSP and gained 100 DSP. (less)
Riker (DEFENDER) lost 222 RSP and gained 1,010 DSP. (less)
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Mythos on July 23, 2013, 11:00:39 PM
With 1000 probes? I doubt the three guys not in his alliance would have probed him that much.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on July 23, 2013, 11:01:37 PM
when did b-low-me come out of p?

lol
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Mythos on July 23, 2013, 11:02:49 PM
Ok cool, like I said I didn't come in to accuse I'm more trying to figure out the RSP thing. Looks like it was a sweet hit.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on July 23, 2013, 11:03:59 PM
well his or her fleet score has come down a lot to nearly the same as Rikers and he was way ahead earlier
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 23, 2013, 11:05:15 PM
Lost 48 of 48 Artemis Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 16 of 16 Erebus Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 15 of 15 Apollo Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 15 of 15 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 4 of 4 Curetes Class Cruisers (0 remain).
* Lost 2 of 2 Pallas Class Bombers (0 remain).
* Lost 2 of 2 Moros Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 3 of 3 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).

* Lost 3 of 6 Genesis Solar Satellites ( 3 remain).
* Lost 15 of 33 Helios Class Solar Satellites (18 remain).
* Lost 11 of 54 Artemis Class Fighters (43 remain).
* Lost 3 of 10 Erebus Fighters ( 7 remain).
* Lost 1 of 18 Apollo Class Fighters (17 remain).
* Lost 0 of 1 Charon Class Transports ( 1 remain).
* Lost 0 of 9 Curetes Class Cruisers ( 9 remain).
* Lost 0 of 3 Poseidon Class Cruisers ( 3 remain).
* Lost 0 of 1 Pallas Class Bombers ( 1 remain).
* Lost 0 of 2 Moros Battleships ( 2 remain).
* Lost 16 of 56 Laser Cannons (40 remain).
* Lost 37 of 107 Missile Batteries (70 remain).
* Lost 2 of 13 Pulse Canno
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on July 23, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
Seems a bit silly when Riker was online all day
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: wesnalk on July 24, 2013, 01:00:53 AM
seems a bit pushy with this quest, its just above 1000 maybe its just luck


0/1000   Earn at least 1000 DSP in a single battle.

1.7m rez for each resource
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 24, 2013, 01:53:46 AM
Well you can file a ticket, but that guy has been swinging at a few people. Swung at Ken twice, for example. He just picked the wrong target when he went after Riker.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on July 25, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
he hit me twice for no almost no resources...i think hes just filling quests...i was online at the time as well...but i had no ships close enough to ninja him
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: DolphinDiver on July 25, 2013, 06:59:27 PM
 :-*  I LOVE THIS TOURNEY SO FAR   :-*
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on July 26, 2013, 01:52:45 AM
i know...me too...back to the basics of the game as it was!
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Audacious on July 26, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Would be better without p mode and lucky draw.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: lazoputz on July 26, 2013, 10:11:15 AM
Hope you guys are having fun, RL constraints prevented me from allocating enough time to play....again, dammit
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: well done on July 26, 2013, 08:16:51 PM
see this proves me right!
people are having fun back to how it used to be
however they also wish p mode was gone
maybe 1 day we will get a new back to basics uni with no p mode or lucky draw
where your top cause your the best or put the most time in sigh  :-X
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on July 26, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
 ;D...that would be awesome...i have no problem with tokens myself...the heavy token buyers always end up dropping down in the long run...p.mode..well i use it because everyone else does...but i would rather we all have to frs again
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: silly_me on July 26, 2013, 09:41:54 PM
haven't used p mode yet.  And with good reason, I don't have a darn thing worth taking.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on July 28, 2013, 01:30:57 AM
rofl...i KNOW! :(
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 28, 2013, 02:46:10 AM
lol
This is pretty fun actually. Still could do without p mode, but since there isn't as much need for it not as many people are using it.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Bravicus on July 28, 2013, 06:44:13 AM
I'm curious to see how people can do without npcs.  From what I understand not many people really play the game pvp anymore.

But I would agree it's been enjoyable so far and being less than 2 months long it's about the perfect time length for me.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 28, 2013, 06:48:00 AM
The Empire has returned to its glory days. :D
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Bravicus on July 28, 2013, 07:22:16 AM
There certainly are a lot of you.  Just not anybody I remember as being part of The Empire glory days.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 28, 2013, 01:28:43 PM
Ken, Yoda, Riker, Dark One, and myself all were in Empire during the glory days. Maybe others as well.
That wasn't my point though. My point was that the Empire is ruling the uni. As it should be. :)
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on July 28, 2013, 02:25:13 PM
problem is that empire has way to many players for a tourney this size...when i am hunting it seem,s every third player out of noob is empire...and many of them are what i would consider food
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 28, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Yes. We've dropped a few, but there's still a few too many.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Audacious on July 28, 2013, 04:53:08 PM
Yeah wallet/warriors usually take the lead in the beginning.

Also would somebody explain why is it that when i type wa11e7/ warriorrrss normally it automatically changes to players when i post?

W41137 W4RR10R5

Fix that matt.

There is a certain phrase BFG has set to auto correct to players.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Matt H on July 28, 2013, 08:29:55 PM
Instead of using a derogatory phrase to describe people who spend money on our games, perhaps you should find better phraseology instead of dodging the filter.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Audacious on July 28, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
Instead of using a derogatory phrase to describe people who spend money on our games, perhaps you should find better phraseology instead of dodging the filter.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Derogatory

Except it isn't, not even remotely. It's no different from calling someone a hunter, turtle, or a miner. It is most certainly not someone who spends money either, it is someone who spends absurd amounts of money to gain massive advantages.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on July 28, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Ugh I can't not say it.

You know that by censoring a derogatory term; that either a non-derogatory term will become derogatory, or that people will just come up with a new derogatory term, yes?

You cannot defeat evolution.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Zarchne on July 29, 2013, 03:35:25 AM
A PLAYER who is also CUSTOMER would either be a JOHN, or possibly a MARK.  Since that's two out of four, I suggest we call them EVANGELISTs.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Doctor Strange on July 29, 2013, 04:56:41 PM
I like this basic uni. :) I also wish this was a regular uni.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Audacious on August 01, 2013, 12:45:30 AM
This uni is very dense. It creates an issue where basically everyone's planets are lit all the time. Watching for timers is close to pointless...
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on August 01, 2013, 01:13:33 AM
every one is on 24/7 anyway so just go for it whenever feels right

for those times when a toilet break is needed theres p mode

for everything else theres mastercard
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on August 01, 2013, 01:50:20 AM
I wouldn't have so much dsp and an F2 if everyone were online 24/7.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: jt0117 on August 01, 2013, 04:06:07 AM
nice on the F2!
Can the name of the thread be changed? because I think the consensus is the uni setup is well liked and should be made permanent. Every time I read a new post I'm expecting some argument trashing the uni.

my recommendation for thread name:
This tournament seems...

I also like the format. Wish more people played.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on August 01, 2013, 04:13:25 AM
Ty!
Me too. G1 is fairly crowded, but 2 & 3 are mostly empty. Need more peeps!
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Plane Nutz on August 01, 2013, 04:24:49 AM
MORE FOOD!!!!
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on August 01, 2013, 04:30:14 AM
Hush! They don't need to know that part. Yet.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: well done on August 02, 2013, 06:15:19 AM
nice on the F2!
Can the name of the thread be changed? because I think the consensus is the uni setup is well liked

like i predicted but what do i know??

I also like the format. Wish more people played.

they would do if p mode was abolished but what do i know??
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Vastet on August 02, 2013, 06:25:19 AM
Yep p mode still needs to go. Too many people will refuse to return as long as it's still here. It's way too unbalancing.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: lazoputz on August 02, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
I really shouldnt comment, since im not playing, but had I had enough free space in RL, I would have been playing regardless of the availability of pee-mode; although I rarely use it myself.
But overall, I seem to be missing out on a good game overall, as noted by the numerous positive comments on the format.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on August 02, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
yup...its a blast, and I find its no where near as time intensive as a regular uni...or course if you do put in the time it well pays off
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: well done on August 03, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
the other unis had the life sucked out of them but going back to basics reminds people why they used to play[unpredictability]
i just dont understand why they had to turn every uni the same?
lets pray a new uni gets started using this format and no p mode
and also it has to have a v mode for real life breaks
make it like old original and no planet moves
make macs what they used to be [useful]
then the only thing bfg has to tweak is adding new ships
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Dark One on August 03, 2013, 11:47:12 PM
I use P-mode because it makes it possible for me to play the game, but it does provide an advantage that I don't like. I would happily do without it if there was an easier way to FRS quickly.

I also have just started an Original account again and I am amazed that it seems attacking other players is sort of frowned upon, and even uneconomic, now that NPCs exist. I am glad I sugested this back to basics tournament.

BFG have yet to twig that the fun in the game is PVP and not farming. They refuse to do as an organisation what they need to do and the user base says they need to do. Replicate the Eljercode scripts and sell them as a maintained premium package, same with openparser and battlementat. Make the money here but keep the charge small. People would pay a regular amount for premium UI as long as it is cheaper than a pint or two a week (but for BFG this would be a regular large income).

Also figure out a way for people to EARN their destroyed fleets back rather than "when it's gone, quit because you can't see the point of carrying on". Make this equitable and not paid, so to keep people in the game (that will earn you long term money) BFG. This may mean swapping RSP points for returned fleet so that you can decide how much RSP you are prepared to give up to get your fleet back.

PS happy to do consultancy because boy do you guys need it.

Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on August 04, 2013, 01:26:56 AM
bfgs main problem has always been its lack of business planning...not its game making skills
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: lazoputz on August 04, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
@ Dark One. I dont think PvP is actually FROWNED upon in SFCO. I think its a case of so many NPCs available, everyone (well most everyone) is leaning towards a live and let live attitude while scrambling to assemble as many easy rank points that NPCs provide. The OA rankings in the top 100-200 or so, changes almost hourly in a lot of groups.
I like your idea about pay for use script(s) though, makes total sense but only if they ban third party scripts or limit their complexity somehow.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: DolphinDiver on August 10, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
Yes ther can be cheap and good approaches to improve the game with paid features for small money. I could imagine that if they take 1 credit for each use of parser/simulator that many would use it especially if they add some more convenience or details to it than now exsiting.

Another option instead of paying for parsing could be a commander of type "archive commander" who is storing player summaries from your own esp reports (locations scanned, fleet scanned, techs scanned) with the option to create favorite list. So you can just click on the locations you stored and the commander sends out the default number of proves there etc... So there would be many ideas for real added value without changing basic game mechanics just by making the game more convenient for those who would open their wallets for it.

I also do not understand why BFG is not working on issues like that. I just imagine, I paid for a archive commander. I have all location of a player scanned the days before and they are in my personal library now. I put the player to my personal watchlist, click on the player name and a new "archive galaxy center" opens with all known locations including their time markers of my target visible at the same moment. I click on the commander function "Probe all player locations" and the commander sends out probes to all locations of the player that I know. Would I purchase such a commander? Oh YES I would !!!
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on August 10, 2013, 11:51:21 AM
damn that would be awesome...
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Dark One on August 25, 2013, 07:27:49 AM
Ken already has the beta version of this he's been using in the tourney, why do you think he's doing so well and probes so often. Should be public by tourney 6.
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on August 25, 2013, 06:00:55 PM
I wont be making it public...im selfish! ;)
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on August 25, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
like a prawn or a lobster?
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: renykeny on August 25, 2013, 08:00:17 PM
 ;D. Apparently crab
Title: Re: This tournament seems messed up.
Post by: Phil M on August 27, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
I wouldn't say you're a crab - you were always perfectly pleasant and even offered to snuggle (which was always appreciated)

:)