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Starfleet Commander => Eradeon Extreme Universe => Topic started by: Kip Shiller on May 22, 2015, 11:24:15 PM

Title: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Kip Shiller on May 22, 2015, 11:24:15 PM
So Havelina just passed me yet again, I was now down to rank 5 - which makes sense considering the limited time I have been putting in lately. Me and Hav joked about how I would pass her while she sleeps. Little did she know.....

I decided I would hunt. Saw Robin Williams was dark. I quickly organized and got the attack underway. Boom!

   Battle Report for Mrs. Doubtfire's Moon [1:146:12m]   2 days ago
To: Kip Shiller
Date: 2015-05-21 02:12:34 UTC
In the attack from Old School ‎‎[1:112:1m] on Mrs. Doubtfire's Moon ‎‎[1:146:12m]:

The attacking side acquired 473 ore, 1,026,401 crystal, and 5,772,291 hydrogen.
The attacking side did not acquire any Eradeon.

Kip Shiller (ATTACKER) lost 84,872 RSP and gained 351,525 DSP. (more)
Angel Blue (ATTACKER) lost 58,861 RSP and gained 255,856 DSP. (more)
Sithworth (ATTACKER) lost 1,395 RSP and gained 262,961 DSP. (more)
Captain Jack (ATTACKER) lost 1,475 RSP and gained 180,775 DSP. (more)
Robin Williams (DEFENDER) lost 1,051,119 RSP and gained 146,603 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 1,051,119 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 662,468,000 ore, 316,874,500 crystal, and 74,714,000 hydrogen in damages.

  * Lost   716 of   716 Hermes Class Probes         (0 remain).
  * Lost   300 of   300 Atlas Class Cargos          (0 remain).
  * Lost 50096 of 50096 Artemis Class Fighters      (0 remain).
  * Lost  5875 of  5875 Apollo Class Fighters       (0 remain).
  * Lost    23 of    23 Charon Class Transports     (0 remain).
  * Lost   196 of   196 Zagreus Class Recyclers     (0 remain).
  * Lost   135 of   135 Hercules Class Cargos       (0 remain).
  * Lost    98 of    98 Dionysus Class Recyclers    (0 remain).
  * Lost  3332 of  3332 Poseidon Class Cruisers     (0 remain).
  * Lost    31 of    31 Carmanor Class Cargos       (0 remain).
  * Lost     3 of     3 Gaia Class Colony Ships     (0 remain).
  * Lost  4732 of  4732 Athena Class Battleships    (0 remain).
  * Lost  1865 of  1865 Hades Class Battleships     (0 remain).
  * Lost  2117 of  2117 Ares Class Bombers          (0 remain).
  * Lost   525 of   525 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
       


231,226,200 ore and 106,170,150 crystal are now floating at this location.


He pm me shortly after. I used to play with this player back in the day, great guy. He politely declined my offer of a care package because he has a whopping output. He lost less than 2 weeks of mine production. I wish him a speedy rebuild.


I decided to hunt some since i had a nice "nerd high" from my success. And I found another huge fleet. After the battle it gets interesting, but I digress.

Booom!

Battle Report for Jack Russell [1:225:5m]   2 days ago
To: Kip Shiller
Date: 2015-05-21 04:34:43 UTC
In the attack from Jacks Off Tonight ‎‎[1:249:6m] on Jack Russell ‎‎[1:225:5m]:

The attacking side acquired 3,287,316 hydrogen.
The attacking side did not acquire any Eradeon.

Kip Shiller (ATTACKER) lost 95,925 RSP and gained 441,134 DSP. (more)
Sithworth (ATTACKER) lost 18,765 RSP and gained 401,167 DSP. (more)
Kinkstaah (ATTACKER) lost 28,116 RSP and gained 28,925 DSP. (more)
Angel Blue (ATTACKER) lost 11,670 RSP and gained 272,883 DSP. (more)
Matrem Gremio Canis (DEFENDER) lost 1,144,111 RSP and gained 154,476 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 1,144,111 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 648,975,000 ore, 399,303,500 crystal, and 97,808,000 hydrogen in damages.

  * Lost    13 of    13 Hermes Class Probes         (0 remain).
  * Lost   300 of   300 Atlas Class Cargos          (0 remain).
  * Lost 20141 of 20141 Artemis Class Fighters      (0 remain).
  * Lost  3951 of  3951 Apollo Class Fighters       (0 remain).
  * Lost     1 of     1 Hercules Class Cargos       (0 remain).
  * Lost  2647 of  2647 Dionysus Class Recyclers    (0 remain).
  * Lost     7 of     7 Poseidon Class Cruisers     (0 remain).
  * Lost  6714 of  6714 Athena Class Battleships    (0 remain).
  * Lost  4335 of  4335 Hades Class Battleships     (0 remain).
  * Lost   545 of   545 Ares Class Bombers          (0 remain).
  * Lost  1220 of  1220 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
  * Lost     1 of     1 Zeus Classes                (0 remain).
       


227,505,600 ore and 132,460,350 crystal are now floating at this location.

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Too bad kink was busy failing his attacks and suffered a shitty loss for minimal gain.


Nice hit I thought, quite a night landing these back to back. Matrem pm me the next day saying he had activated P mode. He says BFG looked into it and that they dermined he has been hacked. This is not the first time I have heard this happening and it makes me question the reliability of speending real money for P mode.

now to go really off topic, i suggest BFG make a change to their system to increase the effectiveness of their product.

Suggestion 1) Make the activation and deactivation of P mode generate a message in your inbox. This should include the length of time, and it should be distinguished whether P mode expired or was manually broken. This will give both the player and BFG a timestamp to work off of.

Suggestion 2) Have your P mode show on the fleets page like a warpgate cooldown.

I think combining the two would be amazing.

While I agree with the possibility of their being a "hack" of some sort. I know no cheating occured by the attackers. I found the target and I organized the kill. I'd walk you through it all like i did for Matrem, but Id rather ramble about how AA just funed up a bunch of fleets.


I went to bed. I checked on this target and they looked online, despite being kinda late for them. I woke up to see this Boooom:

To: Andy never gives up
Date: 2015-05-21 10:19:41 UTC
In the attack from Lola ‎‎‎[1:220:1m] on You Are My Sunshine ‎‎‎[2:151:3m]:

The attacking side acquired 0 resources.
The attacking side did not acquire any Eradeon.

Kinkstaah (ATTACKER) lost 14,976 RSP and gained 165,626 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 562,898 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 10,646,000 ore, 3,959,500 crystal, and 434,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 1798 of 6495 Artemis Class Fighters (4697 remain).
* Lost 127 of 495 Apollo Class Fighters ( 368 remain).
* Lost 142 of 1847 Poseidon Class Cruisers (1705 remain).
* Lost 30 of 3798 Athena Class Battleships (3768 remain).
* Lost 10 of 2959 Hades Class Battleships (2949 remain).


Ba'al (ATTACKER) lost 2,960 RSP and gained 154,061 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 523,595 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 1,950,000 ore, 890,000 crystal, and 120,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 38 of 5141 Athena Class Battleships (5103 remain).
* Lost 8 of 2531 Hades Class Battleships (2523 remain).


Eugalp Cinobub (ATTACKER) lost 42,583 RSP and gained 137,744 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 468,139 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 31,186,000 ore, 11,582,500 crystal, and 505,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 6235 of 22282 Artemis Class Fighters (16047 remain).
* Lost 1381 of 5755 Apollo Class Fighters ( 4374 remain).
* Lost 140 of 1794 Poseidon Class Cruisers ( 1654 remain).
* Lost 21 of 1927 Athena Class Battleships ( 1906 remain).
* Lost 15 of 1945 Hades Class Battleships ( 1930 remain).


Andy never gives up (ATTACKER) lost 8,858 RSP and gained 211,974 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 720,417 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 5,785,000 ore, 2,469,000 crystal, and 604,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 182 of 2613 Poseidon Class Cruisers (2431 remain).
* Lost 37 of 5678 Athena Class Battleships (5641 remain).
* Lost 16 of 3576 Hades Class Battleships (3560 remain).


Grandizer (DEFENDER) lost 669,406 RSP and gained 69,377 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 719,406 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 383,978,000 ore, 225,125,000 crystal, and 60,739,000 hydrogen in damages.

* Lost 80 of 80 Hermes Class Probes (0 remain).
* Lost 1001 of 1001 Atlas Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 10698 of 10698 Artemis Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 872 of 872 Apollo Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 6 of 6 Charon Class Transports (0 remain).
* Lost 34 of 34 Zagreus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 501 of 501 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 891 of 891 Dionysus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 2466 of 2466 Poseidon Class Cruisers (0 remain).
* Lost 100 of 100 Carmanor Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 2 of 2 Gaia Class Colony Ships (0 remain).
* Lost 2862 of 2862 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 1842 of 1842 Hades Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 899 of 899 Ares Class Bombers (0 remain).
* Lost 790 of 790 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Zeus Classes (0 remain).
* Lost 0 of 1 Hephaestus Class Attack Platforms (1 remain).



130,063,500 ore and 73,210,800 crystal are now floating at this location.


"Well... which alliance is the best? Who was doomed?

3 major hits in 12 hours"
- Andy's alliance post.



I include that because there has been a good back and forth between AA and Frozen that has added some fun to the game (and some drama, but for some that's fun too)

Those kills happened in such a short amout of time we were already on a huge "Nerd High", but there was even more to come. 900 mil DF in 10hrs! I know that shit is impressive, but we need to hit that ONE BILLION DF mark:


In the attack from 1A ‎‎[1:41:4] on Hank ‎‎[1:22:14m]:

The attacking side acquired 0 resources.
The attacking side did not acquire any Eradeon.

Cloud McKnife (ATTACKER) lost 455,394 RSP and gained 77,176 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 455,394 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 229,437,000 ore, 179,591,000 crystal, and 46,376,000 hydrogen in damages.
  * Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

  * Lost 10857 of 10857 Atlas Class Cargos          (0 remain).
  * Lost  1441 of  1441 Artemis Class Fighters      (0 remain).
  * Lost    20 of    20 Apollo Class Fighters       (0 remain).
  * Lost   868 of   868 Poseidon Class Cruisers     (0 remain).
  * Lost   902 of   902 Athena Class Battleships    (0 remain).
  * Lost  1347 of  1347 Hades Class Battleships     (0 remain).
  * Lost   182 of   182 Ares Class Bombers          (0 remain).
  * Lost   847 of   847 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
  * Lost     9 of     9 Zeus Classes                (0 remain).
       

Stabby McKnife (ATTACKER) lost 715,044 RSP and gained 121,180 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 715,044 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 427,223,000 ore, 238,438,000 crystal, and 53,200,000 hydrogen in damages.
  * Acquired 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in plunder.

  * Lost 15328 of 15328 Artemis Class Fighters      (0 remain).
  * Lost  7634 of  7634 Apollo Class Fighters       (0 remain).
  * Lost  2740 of  2740 Poseidon Class Cruisers     (0 remain).
  * Lost  2571 of  2571 Athena Class Battleships    (0 remain).
  * Lost   942 of   942 Hades Class Battleships     (0 remain).
  * Lost   268 of   268 Ares Class Bombers          (0 remain).
  * Lost  1638 of  1638 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
  * Lost     5 of     5 Zeus Classes                (0 remain).
       

Andy never gives up (DEFENDER) lost 92,841 RSP and gained 348,790 DSP. (more)
Sithworth (DEFENDER) lost 18,940 RSP and gained 228,335 DSP. (more)
Angel Blue (DEFENDER) lost 49,317 RSP and gained 203,857 DSP. (more)
The Real Captain Canuck (DEFENDER) lost 28 RSP and gained 31 DSP. (more)
Kip Shiller (DEFENDER) lost 19,660 RSP and gained 214,988 DSP. (more)
Kinkstaah (DEFENDER) lost 17,571 RSP and gained 174,434 DSP. (more)

237,793,800 ore and 142,204,500 crystal are now floating at this location.

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A nice defend generate another 380mil in debris. I thought that our string of good luck was over. Until I heard all the chatter of this little guy:

To: Andrea Nard1
Date: 2015-05-22 19:06:54 UTC
In the attack from Gold Wing by Will ‎‎‎[1:128:5m] on Naughty Passions ‎‎‎[2:230:14m]:

The attacking side acquired 1,351,288 ore, 474,068 crystal, and 767,422 hydrogen.
The attacking side did not acquire any Eradeon.

Andy never gives up (ATTACKER) lost 1,505 RSP and gained 195,679 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 599,125 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 960,000 ore, 470,000 crystal, and 75,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 345,424 ore, 121,185 crystal, and 196,174 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 18 of 4000 Athena Class Battleships (3982 remain).
* Lost 5 of 4225 Hades Class Battleships (4220 remain).


OSB (ATTACKER) lost 41,236 RSP and gained 101,753 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 311,546 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 30,792,000 ore, 10,384,000 crystal, and 60,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 182,929 ore, 64,176 crystal, and 103,888 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 9879 of 32969 Artemis Class Fighters (23090 remain).
* Lost 23 of 2102 Athena Class Battleships ( 2079 remain).
* Lost 4 of 630 Hades Class Battleships ( 626 remain).


Angel Blue (ATTACKER) lost 38,697 RSP and gained 209,193 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 640,500 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 28,719,000 ore, 9,843,000 crystal, and 135,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 343,442 ore, 120,488 crystal, and 195,047 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 9243 of 32000 Artemis Class Fighters (22757 remain).
* Lost 16 of 3300 Athena Class Battleships ( 3284 remain).
* Lost 9 of 3700 Hades Class Battleships ( 3691 remain).


CrazyEyez (ATTACKER) lost 1,145 RSP and gained 49,242 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 150,770 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 690,000 ore, 380,000 crystal, and 75,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 74,627 ore, 26,181 crystal, and 42,382 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 12 of 844 Athena Class Battleships ( 832 remain).
* Lost 5 of 1178 Hades Class Battleships (1173 remain).


Sithworth (ATTACKER) lost 1,575 RSP and gained 207,641 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 635,750 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 1,080,000 ore, 450,000 crystal, and 45,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Acquired 404,866 ore, 142,038 crystal, and 229,931 hydrogen in plunder.

* Lost 22 of 5000 Athena Class Battleships (4978 remain).
* Lost 3 of 3950 Hades Class Battleships (3947 remain).


Sorrowcat (DEFENDER) lost 763,512 RSP and gained 84,158 DSP. (less)
* Contributed 763,512 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 469,319,000 ore, 253,820,500 crystal, and 47,626,000 hydrogen in damages.

* Lost 2044 of 2044 Hermes Class Probes (0 remain).
* Lost 2810 of 2810 Atlas Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 11 of 11 Artemis Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 14507 of 14507 Apollo Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 8 of 8 Charon Class Transports (0 remain).
* Lost 149 of 149 Zagreus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 105 of 105 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 107 of 107 Dionysus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 3520 of 3520 Poseidon Class Cruisers (0 remain).
* Lost 154 of 154 Carmanor Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 12 of 12 Gaia Class Colony Ships (0 remain).
* Lost 3885 of 3885 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 1145 of 1145 Hades Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 1528 of 1528 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).



159,468,000 ore and 82,623,750 crystal are now floating at this location.

another 240mil. So that puts us at 1,520,000,000 in space dust in about just over 40 hours. Quite the hot streak.

I would like two point out two things
1) This is how AA has always played, and despite a rearrangement of players, our teamwork and cohesiveness is at its finest. This game has been super fun when we have had success.

this ties in to the second thing that i wanted to point out.

2) The name change of "Andy never gives up" to Andrea Nard1.

This means that despite being knocked down, getting up, getting knocked down (maybe from BFG's P mode holes), that our leader and friend of many years and unis is back to  full strength and enjoying the game to its fullest.


KEY TAKEAWAYS
AA is killing shit
BFG needs to fix this P mode issue. Hacks, Holes, Mistakes or whatever. An improvement is overdue.



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Fear UFF DA has never satisfactorily proved his assertion that Stalinism is the catholicon for all the world's ills. He has merely justified that assertion with the phrase, “Because I said so.” A recent United Nations report on human-rights abuses found that he wants to invade the thoughts, values, attitudes, and beliefs of future teachers to ensure that they have the proper “dispositions” to be allowed to teach our youth. The devastating findings of this report should not be ignored. In particular, I want to highlight the report's observation that Fear UFF DA has never had a single new idea. He has merely gussied up old concepts in new rhetoric, most recently in the churlish jargon of Pyrrhonism. This leads to an important point: In a sense, Fear UFF DA's boisterous, Pecksniffian contrivances are quite amusing. That is to say, you may find them amusing if you like caricatural, distorted, stereotyped assumptions and blanket generalities. In short, Fear UFF DA's contrivances are a kind of long, elaborated, humorless joke, especially when you consider that rigid adherence to dogmatic purity will lead only to disunity while we clearly need unity to put Fear UFF DA in his place.

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Fear UFF DA claims to have the perfect solution to all our problems. Alas, his solution involves smearing people of impeccable character and reputation. What bothers me about that is that I admit that I'm not perfect. I admit that I may have been a bit unhinged when I stated that most law-abiding citizens disapprove of Fear UFF DA's methods. Still, that doesn't justify the name-calling, rudeness, and simple ugliness that Fear UFF DA invariably finds so necessary. Nor does it justify his marginalizing dissident voices. He fails to see anything wrong with blending together favoritism and pharisaism in a train wreck of monumental proportions. This bespeaks an investment of complex psychic import. That's why it helps to remember that Fear UFF DA's operatives argue that egotism is a wonderful thing. These are the same irresponsible, maladroit barbarians who ransack people's homes. This is no coincidence; he is too pestilential to read the writing on the wall. This writing warns that you should never forget the three most important facets of his antics, namely their pudibund origins, their internal contradictions, and their tendentious nature.

Fear UFF DA's crotchets are as predictable as sunrise. Whenever I put inexorable pressure on Fear UFF DA to be a bit more careful about what he says and does, his invariant response is to give people a new and largely artificial basis for evaluating things and making decisions. He talks loudly about family values and personal responsibility but when it comes to backing up those words with actions, all Fear UFF DA does is impact public policy for years to come. Because the idea of letting him dress up his profit motive in the cloak of selfless altruism is, in itself, raving, because statistical details released by a third-party agency indicate that his incessant jactancy is really getting on my nerves, and because his main regret is that he didn't live in the early Soviet Union, where he could have joined the Cheka and organized mass shootings of dissidents in the cellars of the secret police, we can conclude that Fear UFF DA is locked into his present course of destruction. He does not have the interest or the will to change his fundamentally lusk cock-and-bull stories. Let me end this letter by pointing out that the battle to question orthodoxy and convention is now joined on many fronts. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and we will not fail.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 22, 2015, 11:30:00 PM
Nice hits!

Fully agree with the p mode thing. Anything that will help figure out wtf is going on there.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 03:13:47 AM
I am sorry I have to say it. There has to be some CHEATING going on here.

You are telling me that 2 high ranked players just launched their ENTIRE fleet at Andy just to destroy a moon, knowing the time it would take and that a defend would be put into place.

You lot should be ASHAMED of yourselves for involving yourselves with this kind of activity. You are all a bunch of CHEATING morons!!!!!!!!

You spoil the game for everyone else!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Defiance on May 23, 2015, 06:07:07 AM
Looks like bodge has turned green afterall, great story, great battle reports.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 06:16:59 AM
If all the hits are legit then it is a fantastic story, but I feel that it is tarred with suspicion, and needs confirming that nothing untoward has taken place in ANY of these hits. However I feel that we may never know the truth behind them.

Ultimately only the players involved will know the truth, if each of them can safely say I had nothing to do with any dodgy dealing then their conscience is clear.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 07:13:31 AM
#1 lol
#2 hits
#3 pakin

Kip is back!!!

I <3 this :)
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 09:19:20 AM
I haven't heard anything from Stabby or Cloud so I have no comment on what happened.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Mama on May 23, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
The attack from Stabby & Cloud looks more like a pre arranged retirement party, regardless of them being high ranked these are 2 skilled players.
Why else would they launch all their fleet on a moon kill when the target moon always uses P mode.

Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 11:49:52 AM
I haven't heard anything from Stabby or Cloud so I have no comment on what happened.

As much as everyone beats up on Andy, he (to the best of my knowledge) is dead against cheating.

When I quit from uni 3 I posted openly in here and in the skype general chat, never told anyone my landing location or landing time. I'm pretty sure he put the word out for all AA to avoid hitting my ships no matter how much DSP was involved as a few were on my buddy list and I generally attacked with mama and sam given my timezone.

No rules would have been broken and still he wouldnt attack the sitting heph or allow anyone in AA to go for it.

I don't think he would be involved in cheating.



Generally Cloud and Stabby never last long in any of the unis so who is to say what happened?
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Mama on May 23, 2015, 12:45:35 PM
As much as everyone beats up on Andy, he (to the best of my knowledge) is dead against cheating.

When I quit from uni 3 I posted openly in here and in the skype general chat, never told anyone my landing location or landing time. I'm pretty sure he put the word out for all AA to avoid hitting my ships no matter how much DSP was involved as a few were on my buddy list and I generally attacked with mama and sam given my timezone.

No rules would have been broken and still he wouldnt attack the sitting heph or allow anyone in AA to go for it.

I don't think he would be involved in cheating.



Generally Cloud and Stabby never last long in any of the unis so who is to say what happened?

The gd people would probably not have know, would only take the attackers and the person being hit to be in on it
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Kip Shiller on May 23, 2015, 12:54:15 PM
I am sorry I have to say it. There has to be some CHEATING going on here.

You are telling me that 2 high ranked players just launched their ENTIRE fleet at Andy just to destroy a moon, knowing the time it would take and that a defend would be put into place.

You lot should be ASHAMED of yourselves for involving yourselves with this kind of activity. You are all a bunch of CHEATING morons!!!!!!!!

You spoil the game for everyone else!!!!!!!


I know I dont cheat, and that we dont tolerate it in AA.


Nobody launched their attack at Andy. The Stabby and Cloud attack was against kink. I can explain whatever i want that doesnt give away anything tactical, if i care to take time out of my day for your sake.

We arent hacking p modes. If we were, Neptune and Bodge would be at the top of the list... :)

#1 lol
#2 hits
#3 pakin

Kip is back!!!

I <3 this :)



I thought you said Pantin lmao


The attack from Stabby & Cloud looks more like a pre arranged retirement party, regardless of them being high ranked these are 2 skilled players.
Why else would they launch all their fleet on a moon kill when the target moon always uses P mode.




We had much debate about how to make this a successful ninja. For you mama, I will tell more of the tactical aspect since you have seen it first hand. But that wont be done here.





Once again, since the point is lost by shit flinging:
AA>the rest

:)
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 01:15:02 PM
Once again, since the point is lost by shit flinging:
AA>the rest, except Icon

:)

I totally agree ;)
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Deadblood2 on May 23, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
Phil didn't you give your uni 3 account to Kip
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
I'm not saying anyone did or didn't cheat. Last time Stabby or Cloud said anything to my knowledge was 16 hours before I found out they'd lost ships.

I will say that the suggestion they never last long in a uni is patently ridiculous. Both of them are top players, and have been so as long as I've played the game. They are both very busy, and often take off for weeks at a time, yet still manage to hold respectable ranks.

I don't know why they did this attack, or what their goal was. I don't know if they thought it would work or fully expected it wouldn't. Maybe they decided to go out with a bang, maybe they thought they had an opportunity to take out a moon, maybe they were unable to be on when it hit and were unable to prevent being ninja'd, maybe whatever. Until I hear from them, I'm not jumping to any conclusions.

BTW Kip, AA still hasn't touched my fleet. I > AA. 8)
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 01:33:11 PM
"We arent hacking p modes. If we were, Neptune and Bodge would be at the top of the list... "

This is why I am giving the benefit of the doubt to players.

But even Andy has said there may be a bug, and wherever and whenever we hear about it AA has been involved or a member or members of AA has been involved as attacker or defender is a bit suspicious.

And there is huge suspicion over the McNife duo hits.

Assuming the hits are legit then great job.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Astrovanman on May 23, 2015, 02:00:43 PM
I am sorry I have to say it. There has to be some CHEATING going on here.

You are telling me that 2 high ranked players just launched their ENTIRE fleet at Andy just to destroy a moon, knowing the time it would take and that a defend would be put into place.

You lot should be ASHAMED of yourselves for involving yourselves with this kind of activity. You are all a bunch of CHEATING morons!!!!!!!!

You spoil the game for everyone else!!!!!!!


He calls it cheating after working with salty.   Lmao!  Someone is butthurt over others getting dsp.   
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 02:08:19 PM
Phil didn't you give your uni 3 account to Kip

Yup after it sat for hours, no one could get enough fleet together to kill it and when i woke up the next morning i got a message on Skype to tell me that Kip would take it.

Got to remember AA had the biggest fleets apart from me in uni 3, if they werent to touch it not many other would knowing that there were a few of those large fleets going to GD it.

One of those things
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 02:22:10 PM

He calls it cheating after working with salty.   Lmao!  Someone is butthurt over others getting dsp.   

Really thats all you got!!!!!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
Really thats all you got!!!!!

it seems enough nowdays, someone gets a hit that someone else wanated and you're a cheat.

don't worry I'll stick up for you fatty!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Darth Fides on May 23, 2015, 03:39:17 PM
Well, something shady is going on. Privacy is a very important thing. And, some actions through a computer, however not physical, can result in a criminal offense! If those cross national borders then it can be an even bigger offense. It is very interesting what I am finding out talking to the RiGHT people!

I have quit the game completely because there are problems with this game. I am also doing what I have to to safeguard my family and my personal assets. This investigation is not over, even if BFG does not want to do anything about it. Sometimes you have to go a little over their heads.

Have Fun!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
It's actually rather interesting how much has changed regarding online activities in just the last 5 or so years. Used to be the only place you'd have a shot at criminal or civil suit over a video game was in South Korea. But not anymore. People have been sued and charged a number of times over video game issues in recent history.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
And so they should. It is against the nature of ANY game to spoil it by stooping to low levels and cheating.

All my DSP I have got fairly, using old methods and playing the  game as it is meant to be played.

Some people are happy to use "TOOLS" to play their game even if they are borderline cheating, and some just don't care and will do anything to get to the top.

However in the end they will lose as they will eventually be shown for the cheats that they are.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
Well, something shady is going on. Privacy is a very important thing. And, some actions through a computer, however not physical, can result in a criminal offense! If those cross national borders then it can be an even bigger offense. It is very interesting what I am finding out talking to the RiGHT people!

I have quit the game completely because there are problems with this game. I am also doing what I have to to safeguard my family and my personal assets. This investigation is not over, even if BFG does not want to do anything about it. Sometimes you have to go a little over their heads.

Have Fun!

Sorry but i call shenanigans, what are the chances of soemone hacking your computer to compromise a game? Have your bank accounts or social media channels been compromised or your identity duplicated?

seems like a lot of work for no financial return
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
It's actually rather interesting how much has changed regarding online activities in just the last 5 or so years. Used to be the only place you'd have a shot at criminal or civil suit over a video game was in South Korea. But not anymore. People have been sued and charged a number of times over video game issues in recent history.

Actually UK law is amazing and people have been jailed over trolling and abuse even on the Twitters. The law is good if you know how to use it to your advantage, if you claim one thing and are even found out to be telling porkies you still get whambulanced - so you cant even propogate nonsence out of turn or make accusations.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Mama on May 23, 2015, 06:49:31 PM
So Stabby & Cloud if it were them who launched sent all there fleet in one slot no spitting of fleet at all and even send lots and lots of cargo ships.

Yup sure does looks like it was a pre arranged retirement party
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 07:07:31 PM
So Stabby & Cloud if it were them who launched sent all there fleet in one slot no spitting of fleet at all and even send lots and lots of cargo ships.

Yup sure does looks like it was a pre arranged retirement party

The problem with that is - what it looks like and what you cn actually prove are 2 different things, every uni something happens that everyone jumps on.

Now, just a thought:

How do stabby and cloud interact with Kink (I don't know of any previous alliance/unis interaction so that seems totally random to me)?
Have Stabby and Cloud previous form for retirement parties?
Did Kink have enough fleet to take both incoming fleets (if it were me and i did i wouldnt have mentioned for the GD, I'm a DSP whore)?
It was a moon destruction remember (I don't know what % chance it was of success tho)!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
@ Mama

That's not entirely accurate. They both had about 80-90k fleet rsp after the attack. Stabby has since lost pretty much everything, Cloud still has what she had then.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: angelblue on May 23, 2015, 07:22:17 PM
It was a moon destruction remember (I don't know what % chance it was of success tho)!
It was 100% chance.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Kip Shiller on May 23, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
Well, something shady is going on. Privacy is a very important thing. And, some actions through a computer, however not physical, can result in a criminal offense! If those cross national borders then it can be an even bigger offense. It is very interesting what I am finding out talking to the RiGHT people!

I have quit the game completely because there are problems with this game. I am also doing what I have to to safeguard my family and my personal assets. This investigation is not over, even if BFG does not want to do anything about it. Sometimes you have to go a little over their heads.

Have Fun!


Here are some facts

A player under the fake identity of Wingman ask to join AA, we failed to check is identity and we accepted him. This happened 3-4 days ago
One player decided to quit and there was the normal accounts upgrade, Quinn Dexter got a new account (now is Q. D.) and Wingman got the account of Quinn Dexter (this after he lost his fleet to Salty)
Matrem Gremio Canis (Darth Fides) is hit by AA and claims was a p mode failure and start chatting with both me and Andy. Ithink it's possible and think BFG should change it. Andy tells him that he believes there is something in the game code.

Darth Fides keep saying that someone is hacking accounts. To make a point he send this message to Andy in Skype and a PM
To: Andrea Nard1
Date: 2015-05-21 21:36:12 UTC
Andy
This is no joke. Kick out Quinn Dexter now. Someone has hacked my account. I have three people who have accessed my account and Quinn Dexter came up. The access has happened more than once and happened in the last 24 hours.
The person using that account might be innocent, but they may have also been hacked. Please, if you trust them then let them know that someone hacked into my account and using the Quinn Dexter account.
I am probably quitting this game completely as this also has given access to my computer. But, do this soon!


Andy is pretty concerned, and starts making checks, gets someone to double check Wingman identity (remember Quinn Dexter account was given to Wingman, no name change), and the result is that someone is pretending to be the real Wingman.
A simple IP check from Skype ID shows that both the fake Wingman and Darth Fides are using the same IP address, further checks also show that the IP address does not belong to a phone company.
This is the Skype message that Darth Fides sent to Andy

“But, someone has somehow logged into BFG into more than one account using the same IP address I have. I only have one and I have not used any others. I guess this is not someone in my computer necessarily. But, Jason mentioned Quinn Dexter who is in your alliance and this has happened more than once over a period of time.”

I will let everybody draw their own conclusions based on the above facts, and the supplied screenshots(edit: they are being removed per andy. BFG can get the smoking gun upon request) showing identical IP addresses of both the Darth Fides and our newest spy.




Some might describe Fides story as a nice scapegoat to take away from (s)ecret spies and an attempt to get his fleet back by BFG. I'm shocked I was such a bad judge of character, i respected Fides.

Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
Have Frozen looked into any of this?
I'm assuming DF being in Frozen has told his allaince and they have all checked their accounts and made sure all is as it seems (legit)?

Only way for 2 accounts to have the same IP is a multi - why would someone go to the trouble of a keylogger to create an account in a game less than 2000 people play worldwide then to specifically drop p markers and cause drama FROM SOMEONE ELSES MACHINE?

That seems a bit far fetched to me as if its the same IP it all had to be done from the same machine otherwise thats a whole lot of grunt work just to set DF up and i mean a whole lot of work just to screw with a game!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Sam Carter on May 23, 2015, 08:02:22 PM
We are still looking into this, and still discussing, appears to me that Darth was told that he has 3 accounts being accessed by his IP address. Darth is saying that he was hacked.

We do believe that this is now untrue, as he has spun several lies over the past couple of days, including trying to get me to quit by saying I was next and that my IP was also linked. I have asked BFG to check my Ip address and I know this is also incorrect, as confirmed by BFG.

My only question to BFG, is, why where these 4 accounts not suspended?
How many other accounts are there?

On another note, congratulations to All AA involved in the hits on frozen, I do believe that they were well played, especially the one on Robin, as I heard was such a small window, so good find Kip.

Congratulations to Nard on the no 1 spot again

Stabby and cloud hit, very dodgy, I do believe that most of the GDers were acting in very good intentions, and offcourse all the DSP helped, but I do think that this hit was planned.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 08:29:12 PM
Just to keep everything on track, Salty had nothing to do with anything. He sold his account awhile ago.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Sam Carter on May 23, 2015, 08:37:01 PM
Good eyes, oops
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
Also when people try to say they have been hacked just watch out that there are people in the game that know better

Frozen really did drop the ball on that one, sorry but common sense would look to see (just like in uni 3 with Phil S) the facts first, they dont add up, as soon as someone mentions being hacked all alarm bells should ring.

What is brilliant is that Fides dug himself such a massive hole and claimed that he was seeking legal advice and BFG were at fault lolz. He can now be taken to court and doesn't have a leg to stand on

EPIC!!!

Hint about multis: they cannot cover up what they do because of patterns and human nature. I'd warrent that there are multiple devices all accessing multiple IP's with duplicates on each of them, learn how IP's are asigned numbskulls!

Oh and a helpfull hint, look at your forum posts bottom right -> your IP is logged there too!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Sam Carter on May 23, 2015, 10:24:23 PM
Yes we did believe Fides in the first instance, as he was supposedly telling us what BFG were telling him, but the more he talked, the more things did not add up. We have been looking into this since yesterday, working with Bodge in getting the details, allowing Fides to dig himself deeper.

Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 10:30:20 PM
pfft I'd guarantee I could run multi accounts except I'd have to break the rules to prove it. Acting isn't particularly difficult, and making sure you only access accounts from separate ip's altogether is also not difficult. A child could do it. There are two unsecured wireless connections in my neighbourhood which I could use to multi account quite safely. For the character, all I'd have to do is never build nukes and be nice to everyone. Maybe a nice touch would be to have poor grammar or spelling. I could even set up a schedule for when I can play on my multi complete with alarms to tell me when to sign in & out.

I'm not going to weigh in on the Fides bit because I don't have enough info to, but to say it's impossible to multi just means you're lacking in imagination and technical know-how.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 23, 2015, 10:45:26 PM
pfft I'd guarantee I could run multi accounts except I'd have to break the rules to prove it. Acting isn't particularly difficult, and making sure you only access accounts from separate ip's altogether is also not difficult. A child could do it. There are two unsecured wireless connections in my neighbourhood which I could use to multi account quite safely. For the character, all I'd have to do is never build nukes and be nice to everyone. Maybe a nice touch would be to have poor grammar or spelling. I could even set up a schedule for when I can play on my multi complete with alarms to tell me when to sign in & out.

I'm not going to weigh in on the Fides bit because I don't have enough info to, but to say it's impossible to multi just means you're lacking in imagination and technical know-how.

I've stopped multiple times from explaining this as even BFG werent aware of all the ways to do it without getting caught but if youre going to all that trouble to not get caught its time consuming and tedious.

I'd have thougth with getting caught out so majorly by Phil S you would be very slow to take someones word on something like this.

Even the maths doesnt add up irespective of who you were getting help from, someone hacks a computer and takes a player out of p - really, in a world with only about 1000 people play this game?

let that sink in, someone hacked a specific individuals computer (went and did the research on who they are and their details, found out their computers details and just simply brute forced their way in, only to log into a game to take off a p marker at a time when the attackers were all ready to hit and the defender or VICTIM was asleep)

The odds on that would be ?

Let alone doing it to another player as well? This is some high level governmental shit right here, its like they're trying to wipe out E2 all together but oddly only using one IP address, oh wait 3 players and then saying that you are next.

Sorry, deffo after what happened wiht Phil and that scam in uni 3, this one is a peach and to think that Frozen from day one have been complaining about the cheating in AA because certain players are in that alliance.

Dear god - there is deffo a pattern emerging!

Good work fatty on the assist to Frozen tho, took me all of 2 minutes to figure that one out once i got a sniff of the story lol
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 11:01:42 PM
I said nothing about hacking. I specifically stated I'm not going to weigh in on the Fides thing. Clearly something is up there. Just as clearly, I don't have all the details being discussed.

I'd agree it's incredibly unlikely that someone would go to the trouble of getting into someones account on purpose in a game this small. Then again, I've seen much pettier things done for much less reward, so I won't ever rule out the capacity of a human being to do something as crazy as that. That said, there's clearly some information calling that possibility into question, so I won't try and claim that is what is happening here. Especially when I have no real reason to do so. Fides has been a sat bashing dick to at least a few members of my alliance, and I have no reason at all to stand up for him.

Regarding the "if youre going to all that trouble to not get caught its time consuming and tedious.": Well yeah. But then it's time consuming and tedious to run multiple accounts anyway, and the reward for doing so is small. I guarantee you or I or Kip or Andy or Mama or a number of other good to great players could do far better playing one account than two. Those who could do better with two over one would never be able to keep up with us, simply because the benefit of running two accounts is superceded by the time cost in doing so. Maybe if you were going to be ridiculously obvious about it and crash fleet into yourself constantly it might pay off somewhat, But even if you don't get busted for multi accounting you will get busted for pushing.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 11:05:33 PM
I've stopped multiple times from explaining this as even BFG werent aware of all the ways to do it without getting caught but if youre going to all that trouble to not get caught its time consuming and tedious.

I'd have thougth with getting caught out so majorly by Phil S you would be very slow to take someones word on something like this.

Even the maths doesnt add up irespective of who you were getting help from, someone hacks a computer and takes a player out of p - really, in a world with only about 1000 people play this game?

let that sink in, someone hacked a specific individuals computer (went and did the research on who they are and their details, found out their computers details and just simply brute forced their way in, only to log into a game to take off a p marker at a time when the attackers were all ready to hit and the defender or VICTIM was asleep)

The odds on that would be ?

Let alone doing it to another player as well? This is some high level governmental shit right here, its like they're trying to wipe out E2 all together but oddly only using one IP address, oh wait 3 players and then saying that you are next.

Sorry, deffo after what happened with Phil and that scam in uni 3, this one is a peach and to think that Frozen from day one have been complaining about the cheating in AA because certain players are in that alliance.

Dear god - there is deffo a pattern emerging!

Good work fatty on the assist to Frozen tho, took me all of 2 minutes to figure that one out once i got a sniff of the story lol

Cheeky Git, I am FAT and PROUD of it :)

I will always support the case of the individual until I can prove otherwise. In this case it was the latter.

There is still the possibility of a bug, we have not ruled it out altogether. We seem to have ruled it out in the case of Darth. But there is still the possibility of a bug in the case of Andy and some others. Only time will tell. If and when it happens again.

Of course if I lose my fleet it will be a bug. (Just letting you know) :P

There is also something fishy regarding the battle with the McNife clan, again only time will tell once BFG have looked into it.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 11:12:12 PM
I said nothing about hacking. I specifically stated I'm not going to weigh in on the Fides thing. Clearly something is up there. Just as clearly, I don't have all the details being discussed.

I'd agree it's incredibly unlikely that someone would go to the trouble of getting into someones account on purpose in a game this small. Then again, I've seen much pettier things done for much less reward, so I won't ever rule out the capacity of a human being to do something as crazy as that. That said, there's clearly some information calling that possibility into question, so I won't try and claim that is what is happening here. Especially when I have no real reason to do so. Fides has been a sat bashing dick to at least a few members of my alliance, and I have no reason at all to stand up for him.

Regarding the "if youre going to all that trouble to not get caught its time consuming and tedious.": Well yeah. But then it's time consuming and tedious to run multiple accounts anyway, and the reward for doing so is small. I guarantee you or I or Kip or Andy or Mama or a number of other good to great players could do far better playing one account than two. Those who could do better with two over one would never be able to keep up with us, simply because the benefit of running two accounts is superceded by the time cost in doing so. Maybe if you were going to be ridiculously obvious about it and crash fleet into yourself constantly it might pay off somewhat, But even if you don't get busted for multi accounting you will get busted for pushing.

There is no reason in this universe to multi. The mines are so good if you put the right structure in place.

I will hit 100m per day in the next 2 days. Ok I use androids, but even without them the resource production is massive.

Me and Adam (Handofkane) have nearly left the game so many times because we see so many muli's that are terrible at hiding it, but I like the game and We enjoy doing stuff together with the rest of the alliance as well.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 23, 2015, 11:15:43 PM
Oh and I forgot to give BFG notice that Adam (Handofkane) and I (Bodge) play from the same ip. But you can see he plays from a windows 8 laptop or his ipad and I play from a windows 7 desktop and my ipad.

Consider this your notification.

I have added this to keep things open and honest.

On that note 2 of my other sons also play the game from a different ip. (killer) and (gotogofast)
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 23, 2015, 11:17:12 PM
I agree. I too should hit 100M within the next couple days, though I only have enough androids to boost my research times (I throw them in my biggest crystal mine when not researching).
Fully agree on the multi'ing. I've run into them in every uni I ever played. But they can never keep up with me so I just keep in mind that if one goes boom the other is ripe for the picking.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Pantin on May 24, 2015, 12:43:11 AM
I thought you said Pantin lmao


me too...  :'(
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Pantin on May 24, 2015, 12:47:49 AM
Sorry but i call shenanigans, what are the chances of soemone hacking your computer to compromise a game? Have your bank accounts or social media channels been compromised or your identity duplicated?

seems like a lot of work for no financial return

two dudes did it in diablo3 and they got sued for it. They put backdoor programs into stupid peoples' comps then one of the two undressed their diablo character while the other was followign in game with his own character to pick up the stolen items. They made their cash by selling the items at auctinos afterwards.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 24, 2015, 04:40:20 AM

me too...  :'(

Apologies!

It was not my intnet to optical illuse
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 27, 2015, 06:30:20 PM
Is there any more info on what actually happened or was it a case of a simple multi?

if so was there actually a "p mode bug" or was that someone simply telling porkies?

Just curious as all convo seems to have stopped and without a large uni group skype nothing seems to get passed around any more
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 27, 2015, 08:17:50 PM
It is still not clear that there is a (p) mode bug. BFG are still monitoring to see if there is. Although the person that made it a big issue turns out to have been multi accounting, so we cannot take his say so into account.

Hopefully we will learn more in due course.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 28, 2015, 04:21:58 AM
Is there a list of who were all "allegedly" affected by the "bug"?

If it was DF then its safe to say it a pile of poo, if there were others then were these the other accounts of a multi or a small group of players all in on something?

Is it limited to a singular alliance?
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 28, 2015, 04:51:27 AM
Andy, as far as I know, still thinks there was a bug. We don't speak civily though so I might be wrong.
With DF out and Robin thinking he might have just fallen asleep, that leaves one mystery member of FROZEN who suspected a bug. Unless that person was DF's multi.

Bodge and I spoke about it a bit, and we agreed that he would be a prime target for exploitation of such a bug if it existed. That he hasn't been killed by it is evidence it doesn't exist.

I also think that I would be a prime target. I don't have as big a fleet, but my mouth and arrogance more than make up for that. Noone has ever posted a hit on me here. Wiping my fleet out would put an end to me claiming noone ever wiped my fleet out. Like me or hate me, blowing me up would be a feather in someone's cap. More evidence it doesn't exist.

And, to my knowledge, it hasn't been claimed by anyone since DF's cover was blown.

So in my humble (HA) opinion, there is no bug.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 28, 2015, 08:49:41 AM
Actually grace you are wrong.

The one person that we know has had a problem with the game randomly probing is kink from AA.

He told me 2 days ago that it is still randomly happening on his account and that BFG are monitoring his account to see what is causing the problem.

He is the ONLY confirmed case of the bug.

Censored is right, if there was a possibility that anyone was exploiting the game in anyway I would be in the top ten targets. Everyone thinks I am a bully in game. I see it as I am just aggressive. But it does make me a target. Andy and vastet, mama, sam carter, brick, arwen would also all be huge possibilities and none of them has reported a problem.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 28, 2015, 02:12:42 PM
I am unaware of what they have ruled out, you would have to ask bfg or kink.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: censored on May 28, 2015, 02:23:57 PM
I thought Kink quit?
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Phil M on May 28, 2015, 11:11:35 PM
Andy created the myth of a p-mode bug because he could not come to terms with the fact that he lapsed and consequently lost his fleet. In typical Andy style, it was anyone or anything else's fault but his own.

Everything else is nothing more than a load of convoluted bs.

Hope that clears things up for yer

Sorry again, please refer to my history with Andy to see that i'm not being bias here.

Pretty sure if he fell asleep he would openly admit it and if there was a bug he would be giving BFG merry hell. Neither of which to my knowledge he has done?

I think your premise is not wholly sound, like your mental state!
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 28, 2015, 11:28:10 PM
Sorry again, please refer to my history with Andy to see that i'm not being bias here.

Pretty sure if he fell asleep he would openly admit it and if there was a bug he would be giving BFG merry hell. Neither of which to my knowledge he has done?

I think your premise is not wholly sound, like your mental state!

You are right there. Andy is not making it an issue. And has NOT asked BFG for his fleet back. As you know there is no love lost between Andy and I and I am sure I would be the first to shout at him. But he has been great since I started this uni. He seems to be open with me about the subject.
Title: Re: How AA Destroyed the Universe in 41hrs
Post by: Bodge on May 28, 2015, 11:28:55 PM
I thought Kink quit?

As far as I am aware he had not quit until 2 days ago when the name changed.