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Starfleet Commander => Universe 2 => Topic started by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 03:06:15 PM

Title: new uni ??? :)
Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 03:06:15 PM
but the link is broken :(
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Post by: Hawkins on August 23, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
What new uni, what link?
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Post by: codename_B on August 23, 2010, 03:07:59 PM
tell more words
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Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
i got a pop up

http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/) or login directly at http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/ (http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/)

for a new uni...... unless i had a wet-daydream at work :o
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Post by: kirakira on August 23, 2010, 03:11:21 PM
It's a new universe!  And my link works just fine.
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Post by: bjossi321 on August 23, 2010, 03:13:49 PM
I just got it up, is this one any diffrent from the orignal?
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 03:16:17 PM
Just got it, not sure what the changes are yet.
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Post by: kirakira on August 23, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
the tutorial is much better!
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Post by: jtsticks on August 23, 2010, 03:21:19 PM
ok, got the link, it works, how does it differ from universe 1????
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Post by: bryn987 on August 23, 2010, 03:23:47 PM
Seeing how extreme turned out, I think I'll stick with original unless there are some big differences in the new one
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
same ships, techs, 20 galaxies.

maybe new DF%?
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Post by: bjossi321 on August 23, 2010, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: "kirakira"
the tutorial is much better!

Holy smokes i must play it now!

anyway, seems to be pretty much the same as the orignal, i was exspected double resource income like in mafia boss but everything else at the same speed
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Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
great news for the uni, but i guess it would made more sense for a bigger build up to the new uni launch...... i mean maybe a couple of weeks notice so people could spread the word.
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Post by: Foolio79 on August 23, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: "Foolio79"
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?


I'm guessing DF%, maybe recurring tournament realm? (crosses fingers)
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Post by: Adhemar on August 23, 2010, 03:33:38 PM
if all they did was up the resource output they could have done that on the other one
what would be nice is dip mode in extreme so more people would keep playing instead of just quiting when RL jumps in
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
I don't think they upped the resource output did they?
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Post by: Kip Shiller on August 23, 2010, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: "Foolio79"
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?

i second the wtf. someone please farm my level 1 ore mine, i quit.
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Quote from: "Kip Shiller"
Quote from: "Foolio79"
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?

i second the wtf. someone please farm my level 1 ore mine, i quit.


Callum v.6?
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Post by: 2$Bill on August 23, 2010, 03:36:47 PM
where are you at?
Quote from: "Kip Shiller"
Quote from: "Foolio79"
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?

i second the wtf. someone please farm my level 1 ore mine, i quit.
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Post by: 2$Bill on August 23, 2010, 03:38:05 PM
WTF?!?!?!

I've been oracle locked.  

Moons have ruined this uni.
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Post by: Combat time on August 23, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
uni 2, its just a clone
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Post by: Chardero on August 23, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
Why?

58,365 players in original and I hear something like 8k in extreme, all falling numbers.

Makes no sense just like that mafia thing.

If there's a major improvement then I suppose it would be worth it but I doubt it.
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Post by: Hawkins on August 23, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
I think they are just trying to get players who want to start with fresh players. Other then that I don't know, nor am I going to try and start. I'm stickin' with the original.
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Post by: Catfish on August 23, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
Uni2 will do nothing without more aggressive advertisement. It's just going to turn out like MB, with nothing but players from the first game joining, and promptly quitting again.
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Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I refuse to even look at it.

I wasted my time on X and MB.  

Not going to make the same mistake a third time.

I'll just sit in d mode until BFG decides to actually DO something to SFCO.

Thanks, but no thanks.
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Post by: Ptonjalken on August 23, 2010, 03:44:42 PM
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:
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Post by: BlackShirt on August 23, 2010, 03:45:07 PM
If you want to join this link works well!
http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/)
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 03:45:50 PM
Game works ok for me....   Link to join below....

http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/)
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Post by: Darkeye on August 23, 2010, 03:46:51 PM
They should improve/fix original I have come back after a long while off and it's stone cold dead.
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Post by: Aglo Redirondo on August 23, 2010, 03:47:16 PM
First player in Uni2 in (v) mode.

I claim it.

 :lol: :roll:
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Post by: kriss515 on August 23, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
so far it looks like sfco.
i've joined but unless your killing original then i'd say this is a waste.
maybe something special we haven't seen yet?
after i joined ex and saw how fun it could be i don't think i can play 2 slow ass uni's!
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 03:49:34 PM
:evil: Does anybody know if this uni is extreme speed/production?.. and I see a diplomacy mode option..  :evil:
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Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:

No, but I think I've concluded BFG's income plan:

Create new uni's so that people will join and buy credits to build quickly.
Let uni die.
Repeat.

Or at least that's been my experience thus far.
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Post by: khaaaan on August 23, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Why not add new ships or abilities or something. This makes no since. I guess BFG does not read suggestions or they just don't care. Or perhaps they have no idea what they are doing.
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 03:52:28 PM
No, but I think I've concluded BFG's income plan:

Create new uni's so that people will join and buy credits to build quickly.
Let uni die.
Repeat.

Or at least that's been my experience thus far.



Plus 1!

:-)
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 03:53:40 PM
Ok I am in uni 2 but through facebook.I want to bypass facebook.I used the same name in u2 as i'm using in u1 but i am unable to get past the login page.Did I screw myself by doing this?
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Post by: Jesus_Saves on August 23, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
I like this on the page:
Quote
A free game Universe with over 0k players
At least they have more than 0 players for now.

I am a little tempted to join in on this. Probably because I keep stalking these forums instead of moving on with life.
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 03:57:45 PM
Hey im up to #372 already.
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Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
Quote from: "Aglo Redirondo"
First player in Uni2 in (v) mode.

I claim it.

 :lol: :roll:
   UniMat0 rulez! (28 min)       Captain Dude (vN) #946
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 03:59:24 PM
:evil: I see a diplomacy mode option and I'm hearing rumors this is Original speed/production.. can someone verify?
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Post by: Albert on August 23, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
new uni could be interesting.

an opportunity to avoid some of the mistakes from uni 1 (hello 99 galaxies!)
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 04:03:04 PM
Uni 2 seems to be at regular speed.  Nothing SPECIAL or different from what I have seen.

I'm playing just for fun and since I got some friends to join to get me some early edge with "Crew" I'm play through out the afternoon and go from there.
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Post by: Kip Shiller on August 23, 2010, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:


please elaborate
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Post by: Zzsphrr Marquize on August 23, 2010, 04:05:39 PM
Things could get interesting in Uni 2.

Fresh start!...Hopefully if we play long enough, we'll find more features...I hope  :?
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 04:07:36 PM
Its early to tell but level 1 ore production is 54/hr.The wiki link at the bottom goes to the orig wiki page so I would say that any changes will show up there.Guess i'll have to read it all again.
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
I started @ #129, new updated, 1,0XX

I got screwed on skipping the tutorial.

LESSON LEARNED!!!!
Title: BAH!
Post by: snedz on August 23, 2010, 04:13:33 PM
why cant BFG improve the existing unis (new buildings, new techs, new ships, etc.) instead of making us start from scratch?

do I look like an fCUking moron?
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Post by: Ptonjalken on August 23, 2010, 04:14:05 PM
Eh, the ranks for the first week mean zil.
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Post by: Vallan on August 23, 2010, 04:15:07 PM
Eh, I'll stick with FarmvilleExtreme.
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 04:16:52 PM
How rude Ptonjalken!  Let people feel good about themselves and their ranks at the moment.  Do you need a hug?
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Post by: bjossi321 on August 23, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
Ore mine lv 4 produces 222 ore, according to the wiki it produces 175 ore in the orignal, so it seems like this universe does have the mining beefed up alittle, i might be wrong, we'll see later on.
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 04:18:18 PM
It's sad when my original rank is higher than this new rank, fresh.


 :lol:
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Post by: Hawkins on August 23, 2010, 04:18:52 PM
Damn I gave in I joined for now just to see what happens. Different name though, no-one can find me now.
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Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 04:25:26 PM
I joined too not sure why yet.
Do the tutorial.
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Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 04:28:05 PM
okay, got my crew requests out, added link, got responce, it sayes page not found... then on my applications list ...nothing ..logged into orginal universe ...clicked link there to go to the new universe ...PAGE NOT FOUND...

Am currently having muppet kittens!! ARGH!!


anyone else experiencing the dissapperance of an entire universe currently??
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Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:
I beg your pardon? Do you want to see some of my posts from 9 months ago? LOL, I know, Pton, just saying, a better phrase would be "most of you dont know how . . ." because some of us most certainly do.

Folks, this is called "Player RETENTION"!!!. New players WONT stay in Original. Or Extreme for that matter. Players who get crashed are not likely to stay either. However, now they have a place to play the game they already know they like, but with a fresh start.

Otherwise, this game was doomed.

Good move BFG. Now, get new features in early if they affect balance (destroyable moons?). And open another speed Uni, with some twist like 40% to DF or 5% defenses to DF.
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Post by: bjossi321 on August 23, 2010, 04:31:22 PM
It disappeared aswell, makes me wonder if the Q from Star Trek had something to do with making an entire universe disappear....
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Post by: BSoD on August 23, 2010, 04:31:45 PM
At least all my neighbors aren't (d) yet......
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
Help I cant get back to my parallell universe.My ship(1) will get smashed.Page not found on facebook.Still want to find out how to play outside facebook.AAARRRrrrr.lol This is standard First day fare.
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Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:

No, but I think I've concluded BFG's income plan:

Create new uni's so that people will join and buy credits to build quickly.
Let uni die.
Repeat.

Or at least that's been my experience thus far.
"Let" the old Uni die? How exactly do you prevent that from happening Kimb?

Your "opinion" is exactly what Pton is talking about, your clueless about the world of online games like this. You seem to think the old Unis can be fixed somehow. They cant. Get over it. This is the BEST thing to happen to this game.

I REALLY REALLY hope there is no D-mode here.
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Post by: Admiral Firebringer on August 23, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
It forgot my password
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 04:36:49 PM
At least all my neighbors aren't (d) yet......


Give it a week.  Thats where I am heading.

I use to be an active player in both the original.. then twitter... then it died... then Extreme.... but I've been working two full time jobs since April trying to save up for a wedding so I left Extreme, went back to Original and have been in D mode ever since just building up 300 field planets.  

When the time comes for this "fresh" start I'll do the same.

Everyone has a reason for (d) mode besides avoiding the scary space ships.  

 :D
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Post by: zekestone on August 23, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Link not working for me.  Also doesn't come up in any search on Facebook.  And the new universe is empty.  

BFG... your launch of this 2nd universe is reminding me of back when OS/2 was launched.

And that's not good.

I predict this will be as popular as the SFC Extreme and have the longevity of OS/2.

More planets only mean that it will attract more into farming rather that combat.

Not gonna bother.
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Post by: bryn987 on August 23, 2010, 04:39:31 PM
Where is the official announcement?
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Post by: Zzsphrr Marquize on August 23, 2010, 04:40:59 PM
That would be quite hilarious....

only 20 galaxies, and eventually a nice chunk goes into D...or V...

scary. At least we're in a smaller universe...closer targets...
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Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
You all do not know how these types of games work to survive.  :lol:

No, but I think I've concluded BFG's income plan:

Create new uni's so that people will join and buy credits to build quickly.
Let uni die.
Repeat.

Or at least that's been my experience thus far.
"Let" the old Uni die? How exactly do you prevent that from happening Kimb?

Your "opinion" is exactly what Pton is talking about, your clueless about the world of online games like this. You seem to think the old Unis can be fixed somehow. They cant. Get over it. This is the BEST thing to happen to this game.

I REALLY REALLY hope there is no D-mode here.

Isn't that what was said about Extreme and Mafia Boss?  That each was the new uni that would liven things up...and both are dying quicker than Original.  I do understand how these games work.  Where's Matt?  He used to post religiously about updates and patches and suggestions.  Now? Nothing.  

I'm sorry if I sound cold, but it feels like that's where we've been left.
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
Odd.... I've been logged in since the first link in Starfleet Original universe appeared.  

The link below works.  Not trying to advertise my stuff but I know for a fact it works.....

Game works ok for me.... Link to join below....

http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/)
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Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: "bryn987"
Where is the official announcement?

LOL ...where the F*** is it?? ....it's gone, can't sign up using the non-facebook interface as i would have to set up a duplicate account!

Great start BFG!!  ...every commander who signed in through the independent game interface is currently building, building, building (i suspect?) ..and the rest of us using facebook are sat here twiddling our thumbs!

Well thats just blooming marvellous isn't it!!  :roll:
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Post by: Zzsphrr Marquize on August 23, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
Quote from: "bryn987"
Where is the official announcement?

Good Question.

For the most part, I saw it in a little "window" above my buildings page while I was playing SFCO....that's how I found out, then poof! came this thread

 :shock:

not sure how everyone else did.
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Post by: Dark Eye on August 23, 2010, 04:46:28 PM
Same problem here, page not found.
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
:evil: I'd like to know if we're dealing with any benefits.. like production and SPEED most of all... if this is a small clone of original universe I'm out...
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Post by: DMMc on August 23, 2010, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: "MatthewPaulPenny"
Odd.... I've been logged in since the first link in Starfleet Original universe appeared.  

The link below works.  Not trying to advertise my stuff but I know for a fact it works.....

Game works ok for me.... Link to join below....

http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/)

NOPE that is not working here.  can't get in and refuses to acknowledge

HELP!!
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Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 04:49:43 PM
i cant get in........... aghhhhh!!!!!
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Post by: justacarnie on August 23, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
I'm playing through FB, but not allowed to open a new tab. I get the error msg you guys get. So i'm stuck with the one tab.
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Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 04:51:42 PM
i cant find the app on facebook anywhere?  this sucks.
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
maybe we crashed facebook.But I still want to know why I cant get there any other way.I can get to orig. but thats all not to U2.
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Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 04:52:46 PM
Well, while whatever is going on with it is being resolved (is it being reseloved?) ...i'm off out to my shed to smash things up!! LOLZ!

(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/4493_86339715291_721970291_2015403_6355692_n.jpg)

Hopefully by the time i've broken a few things and returned, the new galaxy will mysteriously have 'reappeared'

MEEP MEEP!  :D
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Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
As long as my Lv 5 mines are pumping out OCH im okok

Wow lvl 5 mines you are raking in the OCH now  :lol:
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 04:59:23 PM
I have no idea on speed difference yet....  I'm just running missions but I do see a difference for MINES.....


Ore Mine Uni2

Level     Production/h     Difference     Energy Consumption  Difference
1    35    -45    11    14
2    81    0    25    0
3    138    57    40    -15
4    210    129    59    -34


Ore Mine Regular Universe

Level     Production/h     Difference     Energy Consumption  Difference
1    33    0    11    0
2    72    39    25    -14
3    119    86    40    -29
4    175    142    59    -48
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Post by: Vlad on August 23, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
It not allowing me back in.
Creted a account and alliance on the facebook link , now it wont let me in from pc at home :(
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Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "ali baba"
As long as my Lv 5 mines are pumping out OCH im okok

Wow lvl 5 mines you are raking in the OCH now  :lol:


Ive also got the Geologist working as well Lol


But they do not have them working yet
Geologist (Inactive)
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 05:06:52 PM
I got mine working just fine


thats just because you are white and live in england.
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Post by: Odai Basha on August 23, 2010, 05:09:31 PM
Well at least make it a fast uni
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Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:10:23 PM
I dont think they are affiliated with FB with this new Uni. When you click "Crew", you get asked to look in your MSN or Google e-mail accounts for your contact list. When you get to the stage where you need a crew member in the tutorial, the link tries to take you to a FB page that doesnt exist anymore.

I am sure we will hear something soon from BFG. Have some patience people, its Day 1, for cryin out loud, holy cow.

And Kimb, no, those versions are NOT virtually the same as Original. Extreme is a speed Uni, very different gameplay, and Mafia has different names and many speed variations. I still dont know what the speeds and outputs and such are here, but they SHOULD be close to Original, so that players tired of that boring Universe wont go play some OTHER GAME.

Player RETENTION.

I got in through here: http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/ (http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/)
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 05:10:52 PM
:evil: I can deal with lower production.. but I want SPEED!!...
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Post by: Aglo Redirondo on August 23, 2010, 05:12:53 PM
Quote from: "bjossi321"
I just got it up

Do we really need to know that?   :lol:
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
I dont think they are affiliated with FB with this new Uni. When you click "Crew", you get asked to look in your MSN or Google e-mail accounts for your contact list. When you get to the stage where you need a crew member in the tutorial, the link tries to take you to a FB page that doesnt exist anymore.

I am sure we will hear something soon from BFG. Have some patience people, its Day 1, for cryin out loud, holy cow.

And Kimb, no, those versions are NOT virtually the same as Original. Extreme is a speed Uni, very different gameplay, and Mafia has different names and many speed variations. I still dont know what the speeds and outputs and such are here, but they SHOULD be close to Original, so that players tired of that boring Universe wont go play some OTHER GAME.

Player RETENTION.

I got in through here: http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/ (http://uni2.playstarfleet.com/)


The game DOES have a Facebook page, and you can add crew through Facebook.  While logged in OUTSIDE of Facebook you will see the option for Google/MSN... while logged in through Facebook you will have the option to select Friends through the Crew tab.  Not sure if Facebook app entry is just messed up for now.
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Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
I signed up through the facebook link in the original galaxy facebook interface, i sent out 16 crew request, one of which was successful, before the game disappeared from facebook... if i log in through the independent interface sudh as you have Bley, i will be setting up a duplicate account and will rightly be subject to banning....

but yep, i don't think i can be arsed with it now to be honest, anyone who's signed up using the facebook application interface is again, as stated earlier, sat here twiddling there thumbs whilst the lucky what's-names who signed up using the independant BFG interface, are currently building their first ships no doubt!

If anyone from New Hope in this new galaxy is able to read this, ..glad i got a chance to say hello and introduce myself ...i am at 1:75:9   and stuck in some kind of quantum-metaphysical-stasis while whatever is going on gets fixed or whatever!
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Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 05:20:09 PM
Nope I cant get back in at all any way.Fart
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Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 05:21:07 PM
Sorry to hear about the troubles Mr. Beaker.  I signed up through Facebook but then jumped to the outside login as soon as I can.  (Facebook ads annoy me.)

If it makes you feel better I still only have one ship.  :-)
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Post by: Chardero on August 23, 2010, 05:22:22 PM
Gogo buy some credits, they gotta pay for their WOW accounts....

I get the feeling BFG could care less of our opinions.

Old game is old.  :roll:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: poeticmotion on August 23, 2010, 05:23:12 PM
BFG has been failing on customer service for a minute now, but this takes the cake. Nothing out there to 'officially' confirm any differences between this and the fother universes. I see the slight difference in mining output, but I'd like a post or something by them listing what there is different if anything about uni 2. That's going to determine whether I play. Nicely done, BFG, way to take care of your existing customers. A little info would be great.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: angelblue on August 23, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
What's New: they want your email contacts - it's the only way to get crew. And as I don't use either Google or Windows Live to handle my email, I can't invite anyone. How will I get that next mission??!!

"You will be redirected to your email service's site and asked to allow Blue Frog Gaming to download a list of your contacts. We do not have access to any other information and we do not handle your user name and password at all. "
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 05:29:07 PM
This is crap.I want to get in.Do I have to use a different name from orig to play outside FB?Hello? Is anybody out there?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:29:30 PM
You cant use the non-FB log-in page, under the "Existing account" tab, to log in?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: The Grinch on August 23, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"

No, but I think I've concluded BFG's income plan:

Create new uni's so that people will join and buy credits to build quickly.
Let uni die.
Repeat.

Or at least that's been my experience thus far.
"Let" the old Uni die? How exactly do you prevent that from happening Kimb?

Your "opinion" is exactly what Pton is talking about, your clueless about the world of online games like this. You seem to think the old Unis can be fixed somehow. They cant. Get over it. This is the BEST thing to happen to this game.

I REALLY REALLY hope there is no D-mode here.

Isn't that what was said about Extreme and Mafia Boss?  That each was the new uni that would liven things up...and both are dying quicker than Original.  I do understand how these games work.  Where's Matt?  He used to post religiously about updates and patches and suggestions.  Now? Nothing.  

I'm sorry if I sound cold, but it feels like that's where we've been left.

Have to agree with Kim here... Stupid move.  Rather than advertising to bring new players into the game they're diluting their player base. It might make them some money in the short term as folks fork out $$ trying to be the biggest badass in the new uni, but long term I think it will hurt their suite of game (Mafia, X, Original).  Original is surely their largest source of continuing income and they should be focused on keeping those players happy.  Clearly, we want some sort of twist added to original... what that should be has been debated in countless threads.  I find it somewhat insulting that BFG seems oblivious to that.  The resounding issue though is the silence from BFG... when the game first started they were very forthcoming with information (as Kim pointed out), "Now? Nothing."
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: "poeticmotion"
BFG has been failing on customer service for a minute now,

A little info would be great.
And I am sure some will be forthcoming if you give it a few hours, however, right now, I am sure they are dealing with THIS sort of bullshit
Quote from: "ali baba"
How many ppl have sent off tickets..?

Ive sent about 3
And you wonder why they stopped coming to the boards? I sure dont.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on August 23, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
It deleted my account
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: "The Grinch"
Have to agree with Kim here... Stupid move.  Rather than advertising to bring new players into the game they're diluting their player base. It might make them some money in the short term as folks fork out $$ trying to be the biggest badass in the new uni, but long term I think it will hurt their suite of game (Mafia, X, Original).  Original is surely their largest source of continuing income and they should be focused on keeping those players happy.  Clearly, we want some sort of twist added to original... what that should be has been debated in countless threads.  I find it somewhat insulting that BFG seems oblivious to that.  The resounding issue though is the silence from BFG... when the game first started they were very forthcoming with information (as Kim pointed out), "Now? Nothing."
Grinch, try to stay with me here.

YOU CANNOT GET NEW PEOPLE TO PLAY IN AN OLD UNIVERSE!! I DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU ADVERTISE, IN THIS GAME IT DOES NOT WORK!!! THIS ISNT EVE!!!

Seriously, STFU about that which you know NOTHING about. They want their GAME to last more than a year, not your stupid Original Universe.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: russant on August 23, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
You guys are crazy if you think Normal has more active players and is dieing quicker then normal. Extreme is alive and well. I find 20% debris fields just about every night. In extreme I am in 3 different galaxies and the only people active around me are 500 or better. The rest are in dip mode along with 97% of the other people that log into normal. Most active people in normal are just hoping their neighbors go id.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 05:36:34 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
YOU CANNOT GET NEW PEOPLE TO PLAY IN AN OLD UNIVERSE!! I DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU ADVERTISE, IN THIS GAME IT DOES NOT WORK!!! THIS ISNT EVE!!!

Seriously, STFU about that which you know NOTHING about. They want their GAME to last more than a year, not your stupid Original Universe.


Mind that tone and language young man!! MEGALOLZ!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: russant on August 23, 2010, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "The Grinch"
Have to agree with Kim here... Stupid move.  Rather than advertising to bring new players into the game they're diluting their player base. It might make them some money in the short term as folks fork out $$ trying to be the biggest badass in the new uni, but long term I think it will hurt their suite of game (Mafia, X, Original).  Original is surely their largest source of continuing income and they should be focused on keeping those players happy.  Clearly, we want some sort of twist added to original... what that should be has been debated in countless threads.  I find it somewhat insulting that BFG seems oblivious to that.  The resounding issue though is the silence from BFG... when the game first started they were very forthcoming with information (as Kim pointed out), "Now? Nothing."
Grinch, try to stay with me here.

YOU CANNOT GET NEW PEOPLE TO PLAY IN AN OLD UNIVERSE!! I DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU ADVERTISE, IN THIS GAME IT DOES NOT WORK!!! THIS ISNT EVE!!!

Seriously, STFU about that which you know NOTHING about. They want their GAME to last more than a year, not your stupid Original Universe.


Your right Bleys if the want the game to last what they should do in extreme for example is open up galaxies 20-25 to people under a certain resource spent point. Then open those 5 galaxies at a certain time to everyone down the road, but let them build up first.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BSoD on August 23, 2010, 05:40:38 PM
@angelblue

The other way to get crew points is to build Factory 2 and AI Tech 2, then you can build your own crew droids (points).
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 05:40:45 PM
Everyone needs to quit crying.

Believe it or not, you can play multiple universes at the same time.

I'm doing it now, and I just put up a 100M DF earlier, and I'm speed building my Uni2 account.


So, quit whining and play the game.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: The Grinch on August 23, 2010, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "The Grinch"
Have to agree with Kim here... Stupid move.  Rather than advertising to bring new players into the game they're diluting their player base. It might make them some money in the short term as folks fork out $$ trying to be the biggest badass in the new uni, but long term I think it will hurt their suite of game (Mafia, X, Original).  Original is surely their largest source of continuing income and they should be focused on keeping those players happy.  Clearly, we want some sort of twist added to original... what that should be has been debated in countless threads.  I find it somewhat insulting that BFG seems oblivious to that.  The resounding issue though is the silence from BFG... when the game first started they were very forthcoming with information (as Kim pointed out), "Now? Nothing."
Grinch, try to stay with me here.

YOU CANNOT GET NEW PEOPLE TO PLAY IN AN OLD UNIVERSE!! I DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU ADVERTISE, IN THIS GAME IT DOES NOT WORK!!! THIS ISNT EVE!!!

Seriously, STFU about that which you know NOTHING about. They want their GAME to last more than a year, not your stupid Original Universe.

Sorry... I missed the part where you became an expert.  I'm entitled to my opinion regardless of how I use my caps-lock button. :P
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: angelblue on August 23, 2010, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: "BSoD"
@angelblue

The other way to get crew points is to build Factory 2 and AI Tech 2, then you can build your own crew droids (points).

well, i have suckers - i mean friends - who would join without all that work  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: poeticmotion on August 23, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "poeticmotion"
BFG has been failing on customer service for a minute now,

A little info would be great.
And I am sure some will be forthcoming if you give it a few hours, however, right now, I am sure they are dealing with THIS sort of bullshit
Quote from: "ali baba"
How many ppl have sent off tickets..?

Ive sent about 3
And you wonder why they stopped coming to the boards? I sure dont.

How long does it take to write a 2 paragraph postand throw it on the message board before they flip the "on" switch on the new uni?

The new uni is going. People are already jockeying for planet locations. Shouldn't they be ready to go when they start the uni, INCLUDING giving pertinent info to their customer base?

Don't lump me in that with that Ali Baba retard. I'm not going to start submitting multiple tickets; they've got better things to do. I've submitted a total of five tickets in my year playing this game, each one because of a BFG error. Spamming them with tickets is stupid. But a simple post on the MB would eliminate work for them because less people would submit tickets and is needed so people like me can decide if we'd like to participate in a new uni.

I've sold my account. I'm still deciding if I'm going to keep playing. BFG's already started to demonstrate a lack of regard for their customers/players opinion. They do a horrible job of policing cheaters, don't keep us informed, and this is just a slapdash effort at opening a new uni. Give us information so we can decide whether we want to play uni 2. Anything else is just costing them players before the new uni is even a day old.

If they want to keep me, they need to provide something to show they care about the existing customers. Otherwise, I'm gone to 0game as soon as they open a new speed uni.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: "russant"
Your right Bleys if the want the game to last what they should do in extreme for example is open up galaxies 20-25 to people under a certain resource spent point. Then open those 5 galaxies at a certain time to everyone down the road, but let them build up first.
A system like this might have worked, had it been balanced properly and implemented from Day 1. But BFG didnt have time. I think they were forced to rush this out as basically a pure OG Clone and hoped their little differences wouldnt bite them in the ass. Some didnt, but many did, and one was created this MASSIVE Universe without reallizing how difficult it would be to repopulate it as players left.

With multiple Universes of multiple ages, players can move from one to a newer one and BFG DOESNT LOSE A CUSTOMER!

Now, I know you all think BFG should sit down and develop and code a bunch of new shit for free, without really generating new revenue of any kind, but be realistic. If they dont make money, there is NO SCF. None. The servers go OFF.

Wake up you puny little spoiled rotten brats who think just because its become a 15 second world that everything works that way. Holy kamoley. You people are 90% CLUELESS about the Real World, not surprising, considered only 10% of you probably even do your own laundry.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Everyone needs to quit crying.

Believe it or not, you can play multiple universes at the same time.

I'm doing it now, and I just put up a 100M DF earlier, and I'm speed building my Uni2 account.


So, quit whining and play the game.

LOL, MII MIMIMIM MEEE MEEE MEEE MIMMAMEEP!! ...Brian, would if i could mate, refer to previous posts ol'bean, anyone who signed up using facebook is currently 'rather unable' to do anything at the moment.. anyways, with the deteriation of language here and with dinner nearly being ready, i shall return again later and keep trying the links in a leisurely and non-stressed manner LOLZ... AAAAARGHHH!! DAG-NAM-IT!! SSSSSnnnnIGGGIT!!!   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 05:46:58 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Grinch, try to stay with me here.

YOU CANNOT GET NEW PEOPLE TO PLAY IN AN OLD UNIVERSE!! I DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU ADVERTISE, IN THIS GAME IT DOES NOT WORK!!! THIS ISNT EVE!!!

Seriously, STFU about that which you know NOTHING about. They want their GAME to last more than a year, not your stupid Original Universe.

I *do* understand that.  Really, I do.  But we don't even have player retention in the old game because it *feels* like BFG has given up on it.  The last post by Matt about any kind of feature update was back at the beginning of May that corrected the shipyard que.  

Are you honestly going to tell me that the silent treatment by the devs is normal for games like this?  Let's remember, Extreme, while a different universe, is on the same board with the same complaint.  

Mafia Boss?  Do a search for it on Facebook and tell me what you find.  Mafia Boss began June 10th of this year.  Matt has had a total of 7 posts there, with the last post on July 7th.  

Come on, admit it.  One of the best ways to have player retention is to communicate with them.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hawkins on August 23, 2010, 05:47:37 PM
I've got two ships now. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:49:17 PM
My bad poet, and you are right, a quickie "New Uni opening at noon, more details soon" would have been a smart move.

And my bad for grouping you with ali, lol, sorry.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Vlad on August 23, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Grrr ****** game.
LOL.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Come on, admit it.  One of the best ways to have player retention is to communicate with them.
No offense dude, but we have maybe 100 people who visit these boards regularly, out of 50K or more players.

Yeah, they could do more on the boards. They could actually hire a PR guy to deal with you people (applying for the job Matt, email me, I wont troll ... much) but you gotta look at their perspective. Everyone says "do something". Go to the Feature Request area. Do what? Out of the 100s of 1000s of "ideas" what should they do? Who should the "listen" to? You? Me?  Poet? Badrash? BrianC? We all have ideas, none of them are the same.

I really dont think most of you have even stopped to consider their side here. It looks like they HAVE been busy. They re-did the tutorial, some, not sure how well, not done yet. But THAT ALONE is a pretty big chunk of "doing something", dont you think?

Anyway, taking my grandsons to the park, I will deal with you nubs later.

Oh and Grinch, I am not an "expert", I merely parroted the business model of a game JUST LIKE THIS that is going into its 9th YEAR of existence. SFC would have been lucky to make it much past the first without a new Uni, and if you want to argue that, then game on, lets see what you got.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: The Grinch on August 23, 2010, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"

Anyway, taking my grandsons to the park, I will deal with you nubs later.


Good riddance :lol:  Maybe now there can be a discussion instead of just being told anyone that doesn't like this idea is an idiot.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: "The Grinch"
Quote from: "Bleys"

Anyway, taking my grandsons to the park, I will deal with you nubs later.


Good riddance :lol:  Maybe now there can be a discussion instead of just being told anyone that doesn't like this idea is an idiot.


LOL +1  :lol:  :lol:

YAY!  :)  ....The Nasty man has gone away!!  :D


...still can't get in, ticket from ages back has been logged, so it's just a case of sit back and eat pizza for the moment! NYOM NYOM!  :P  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Come on, admit it.  One of the best ways to have player retention is to communicate with them.
No offense dude, but we have maybe 100 people who visit these boards regularly, out of 50K or more players.

Yeah, they could do more on the boards. They could actually hire a PR guy to deal with you people (applying for the job Matt, email me, I wont troll ... much) but you gotta look at their perspective. Everyone says "do something". Go to the Feature Request area. Do what? Out of the 100s of 1000s of "ideas" what should they do? Who should the "listen" to? You? Me?  Poet? Badrash? BrianC? We all have ideas, none of them are the same.

I really dont think most of you have even stopped to consider their side here. It looks like they HAVE been busy. They re-did the tutorial, some, not sure how well, not done yet. But THAT ALONE is a pretty big chunk of "doing something", dont you think?

Anyway, taking my grandsons to the park, I will deal with you nubs later.

Oh and Grinch, I am not an "expert", I merely parroted the business model of a game JUST LIKE THIS that is going into its 9th YEAR of existence. SFC would have been lucky to make it much past the first without a new Uni, and if you want to argue that, then game on, lets see what you got.

Seriously, I'm not even talking about them posting on the Feature Request board.  I'm referring to "Features and Updates" to let us know WHAT changes/patches have been made.  Have they been busy? I don't know, because they're not telling us.  There were changes to the tutorial? Great, us old players will stop making suggestions on it IF WE KNOW that changes have already been made.
I don't care if its a sentence that takes 30 seconds to write.  

How many times has the game been offline for changes with everyone crying "What? What changed? Anyone see anything?"?

In NO way am I arguing that new uni's aren't needed.  I'd especially love to have a beta uni that tested out ideas.  I'd even join the new uni and continue to put $ into SFCO....IF Matt/BFG were around.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on August 23, 2010, 06:13:08 PM
It deleted my account
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Riker on August 23, 2010, 06:14:26 PM
Is anyone else having problems playing the new uni via Facebook?  It was working great then I went to options to try and set a password for using it outside of Facebook and it went away and now I can't get back in.

The page you requested was not found.
You may have clicked an expired link or mistyped the address. Some web addresses are case sensitive.

    * Return home
    * Go back to the previous page

http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/ (http://apps.facebook.com/sfc_uni_two/)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on August 23, 2010, 06:17:13 PM
I am thinking of just opening a new acount outside of face book snce it Deleted my old one
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 06:17:23 PM
Ok well where there is a will there is a way.My first mistake was using FaceBook. I wanted to retain my name but since I wasted it In the FB fiasco(The BFG register/login page wouldnt let me use that name to register,and without registering it just said invalid user) I had to have a new name "Bizmuth Helm 2" and poof im in.Oh wait those arent my coords,and HEY I went from rank 372 to 3189. SnarL At any rate Im in and I know where the first inactive will be.I'm gonna go play with myself now.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Megatog on August 23, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
I think the new uni has like 20 galaxies. So, they did something regarding the request of reducing the universe. But, they did the lazy solution by creating a brand new universe.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 06:20:13 PM
Quote from: "Admiral Beaker"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Everyone needs to quit crying.

Believe it or not, you can play multiple universes at the same time.

I'm doing it now, and I just put up a 100M DF earlier, and I'm speed building my Uni2 account.


So, quit whining and play the game.

LOL, MII MIMIMIM MEEE MEEE MEEE MIMMAMEEP!! ...Brian, would if i could mate, refer to previous posts ol'bean, anyone who signed up using facebook is currently 'rather unable' to do anything at the moment.. anyways, with the deteriation of language here and with dinner nearly being ready, i shall return again later and keep trying the links in a leisurely and non-stressed manner LOLZ... AAAAARGHHH!! DAG-NAM-IT!! SSSSSnnnnIGGGIT!!!   :lol:  :lol:


That was directed at the people whining about diluting universe pools and whatnot, and fathoming at great length, the meaning of the universe.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: RayDeg on August 23, 2010, 06:21:17 PM
so i tried for the first war in uni 2...

To:
The Project Legion has rejected your request for a formal war.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: AbsolutZero on August 23, 2010, 06:21:43 PM
Nice to see that we had 100s of feature requests and the only person who got what they wanted was Bleys.

Bleys, I want to apologize. You're absolutely right, politics and big players run the game. I will never, ever doubt you again.

 :evil:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Admiral Beaker on August 23, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
LOL, no worries amigo, although i fealt guilty cause i've done nothing but winge all afternoon!  :cry:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 06:24:16 PM
I messed up the tutorial start, so i started way behind, went from #129, to like #1200, then back to 554, now 592ish, hopefully going back up :D

This is fun.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: "Megatog"
I think the new uni has like 20 galaxies. So, they did something regarding the request of reducing the universe. But, they did the lazy solution by creating a brand new universe.

Actually, both Extreme and Mafia Boss are only 20 galaxies.  They did recognize that as an issue when they created those.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: "RayDeg"
so i tried for the first war in uni 2...

To:
The Project Legion has rejected your request for a formal war.


Search for MADE and declair war I will accept
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
:evil: I'd like to hear an official type announcement.. the speed appears to be original.. They can bump this up live... I'd like to know WTF is going on from the powers to be.. this SHOULDN'T be a big issue... If this is a mini-Original Universe I'm NOT going to waste my time in it..
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Big S on August 23, 2010, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Come on, admit it.  One of the best ways to have player retention is to communicate with them.
No offense dude, but we have maybe 100 people who visit these boards regularly, out of 50K or more players.

Yeah, they could do more on the boards. They could actually hire a PR guy to deal with you people (applying for the job Matt, email me, I wont troll ... much) but you gotta look at their perspective. Everyone says "do something". Go to the Feature Request area. Do what? Out of the 100s of 1000s of "ideas" what should they do? Who should the "listen" to? You? Me?  Poet? Badrash? BrianC? We all have ideas, none of them are the same.

I really dont think most of you have even stopped to consider their side here. It looks like they HAVE been busy. They re-did the tutorial, some, not sure how well, not done yet. But THAT ALONE is a pretty big chunk of "doing something", dont you think?

Anyway, taking my grandsons to the park, I will deal with you nubs later.

Oh and Grinch, I am not an "expert", I merely parroted the business model of a game JUST LIKE THIS that is going into its 9th YEAR of existence. SFC would have been lucky to make it much past the first without a new Uni, and if you want to argue that, then game on, lets see what you got.

Seriously, I'm not even talking about them posting on the Feature Request board.  I'm referring to "Features and Updates" to let us know WHAT changes/patches have been made.  Have they been busy? I don't know, because they're not telling us.  There were changes to the tutorial? Great, us old players will stop making suggestions on it IF WE KNOW that changes have already been made.
I don't care if its a sentence that takes 30 seconds to write.  

How many times has the game been offline for changes with everyone crying "What? What changed? Anyone see anything?"?

In NO way am I arguing that new uni's aren't needed.  I'd especially love to have a beta uni that tested out ideas.  I'd even join the new uni and continue to put $ into SFCO....IF Matt/BFG were around.
+1

Any reputable software operation has some form of release notes. If bugs are fixed, they are listed. If a new feature is added, it is described. If an existing feature is changed, it is explained. If existing bugs are still outstanding, they are listed as known issues. Even if documentation isn't their strong suit, they have to have an internal tracking system for bugs and change requests (CRs). How hard is it to take a report on closed issues (filter it a bit for public consumption) and just list the things that are new and fixed. And if they did that, maybe this board wouldn't be just 100 or so (edit: it might become 500+), because players would find that this board is a useful source of extra info from BFG and start coming here to read about what's new. I can't tell you how many times (before I actually created an account) I came here after maint updates to try to find an update in the update section, and saw nothing other than a post from players a day or so later once they discovered what had changed. Way too many times.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Slimshady on August 23, 2010, 06:34:11 PM
I mean really what is the point, if they are going to let the original die then they will let this reproduction die as well. Why waste my time trying to start as a newbie again in a new universe, build it up and then watch it die and them start another new one?  :?:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Badrash on August 23, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
And I called it.  Not the first person, but I called it.  I am glad someone told me about it in MB, or I would never have known!

The only thing BFG did wrong here, and they did it horribly wrong, was to communicate the plans and creation of the new Universe.  I mean, how many people are going to feel burned because they did not get to start the first hour like everyone else!

You guys all know that people are going to play it regardless of what you feel or dont feel.  As I have said many times, it is the race to the top that is the fun part.  The grinding just gets old.  So yes, I am going to play in the new Uni.  And yes, the Original Uni is going to take a heavy hit from this as well (in my opinion.)

I think ultimately, BFG decided that making changes to the old Uni was not beneficial for the cost required.  Everyone bitched too much about any proposed changes (like compression) because it would have ended their world.  So BFG just said - f@ck off.  People will play and pay.

Sure, you might find regular speed boring...  but people ARE going to play...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Big S on August 23, 2010, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: "Badrash"
The only thing BFG did wrong here, and they did it horribly wrong, was to communicate the plans and creation of the new Universe.  I mean, how many people are going to feel burned because they did not get to start the first hour like everyone else!
Just curious for those who have managed to get a head start, do they allow you to transfer credits? If not, I think the other thing they might be doing wrong is not having you create a master BFG account and then have individual uni mini-accounts that draft off your pool of credits. I'd be pissed if I was wanting to get a new start and found that I had credits that only existed in a uni I'm dropping in favor of a new one.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: RedParrot on August 23, 2010, 06:41:16 PM
I feel weird saying this, as usually I disagree strongly with Big S... but he hit the nail on the head.
People can talk all day about all the hard work BFG is going, all their great plans they are doing behind the scenes, lack of people that actually read the forums blah blah blah.. I could go on but the truth is with no word from higher ups, aside from a Mod laughing at those asking questions, people (or at least me, yes a me me me statement) start to feel as if they have just left this game to run its course until the next one.
In the end, all we need to do is take a look at what happened with Mafia Boss... there may be differing opinions on why it failed, but in the end the truth is that it has.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: _vortex_ on August 23, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
its amazing that its just opened with no prior warning.  Had i of know id have let everyone i know from other games about the launch etc, fresh meat for the grinder and all that.  But it blows my mind how much work must have gone into creating and launching this version, then not advertise !! i think BFG got it the wrong way round.  Advertising should have started before the preporations for the launch.  But what the hell do i know...... maybe the server couldnt handle thousands of people creating accounts at once so they did it this way insted to stagger the number.  I was also under the impression that september would be a peak time to launch a game?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Megatog on August 23, 2010, 06:48:32 PM
I put a bagel in my DVD player and it wouldn't toast it. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: toodschmidt on August 23, 2010, 06:49:45 PM
Everyone says this new Uni will be so great- but I scanned 100 systems each way and there was not a single who wasn't in (n) or (N).

My artie rusts.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: "Megatog"
I put a bagel in my DVD player and it wouldn't toast it. What am I doing wrong?

You put it in the wrong uni.  Each uni has a different speed.  The VCR would have taken even longer because its OLD.  Try the toaster.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Badrash on August 23, 2010, 06:50:39 PM
I can agree a master account would be nice.  Not too hard to develop.

But my statement was in regards to their current technical/developed functions that they have in place today.  If we want to get picky, there are a bajillion things they did wrong.  BFG sucks.  May they burn for their mistakes!  

But let it wait for just a bit as I enjoy a race to the top again! :)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jacq on August 23, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
Does anyone know what is happening with the Facebook access?     I know there are already tickets placed so I don't want to send another one.    If anyone does know, if you could please post it that would be great.      Thanks.

I want to race for the top but can't without access.     :(
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Big S on August 23, 2010, 06:55:30 PM
Quote from: "_vortex_"
its amazing that its just opened with no prior warning.  Had i of know id have let everyone i know from other games about the launch etc, fresh meat for the grinder and all that.  But it blows my mind how much work must have gone into creating and launching this version, then not advertise !! i think BFG got it the wrong way round.  Advertising should have started before the preporations for the launch.  But what the hell do i know...... maybe the server couldnt handle thousands of people creating accounts at once so they did it this way insted to stagger the number.  I was also under the impression that september would be a peak time to launch a game?

Easy solution to that, if the issue was concern over mass account creation:

"Mon, Aug 23 BFG will be launching uni 2. Create your account today. Game starts at 8:00am PST." - Announcement goes out a week before.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 23, 2010, 06:58:14 PM
Quote from: "toodschmidt"
Everyone says this new Uni will be so great- but I scanned 100 systems each way and there was not a single who wasn't in (n) or (N).

My artie rusts.

That's because nobody can be attacked until they get to I think 100 RS points. Which nobody has yet.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bizmuth Helm on August 23, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: "Jacq"
Does anyone know what is happening with the Facebook access? I know there are already tickets placed so I don't want to send another one. If anyone does know, if you could please post it that would be great. Thanks.

I want to race for the top but can't without access. :(
see my previous post on or about page 14 for one albeit less than desirable solution.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jedi C on August 23, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
[WAR] Made you Look     MADE     1     

    * [ Accept Accept Accept | Reject Reject Reject ]


First War request! Yeahhhhhh!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Rohi on August 23, 2010, 07:02:50 PM
@ Jacq and others

I suggest everyone join OFF facebook as it works.

Then try to log in via facebook. IF it lets you in then send a ticket and address it to John Hunka and get him to sync the two accounts and he will do it for you. Do NOT bother asking Jason as he will say it cannot be done. It CAN be done and John WILL do it.

I did this with the Mafia game. I joined via the off facebook link and so couldn't get MOB credits and I wasn't prepared to send people invites via WINDOWS LIVE or GOOGLE MAIL. So I then I joined via the facebook link and John very kindly synced the two accounts.

The problem at the moment seems to be that one cant log in via facebook so without that John wont be able to sync  the two accounts.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Thorr lucky on August 23, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
I know!!!!!! there gonna put stuff that will inbalance uni 1 and see what happens
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: President Penny on August 23, 2010, 07:03:48 PM
Quote
toodschmidt wrote:
Everyone says this new Uni will be so great- but I scanned 100 systems each way and there was not a single who wasn't in (n) or (N).

My artie rusts.


That's because nobody can be attacked until they get to I think 100 RS points. Which nobody has yet.

HAHAHAHA LOL.  I actually did LOL at that.  ;-)  People are silly.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: "Jedi C"
[WAR] Made you Look     MADE     1     

    * [ Accept Accept Accept | Reject Reject Reject ]


First War request! Yeahhhhhh!

Did you accept or run and hide form my over powering 2 ships.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Dan Evans on August 23, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
I don't know if it's a glitch or not, but I've only been playing for about 20 minutes and I have level 4 mines, level 2 capitol, level 2 shipyard and am building my first arty. Using the tutorial, I got bonuses. Every time I clicked on build something, there was no wait until I got to level 4 mines.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 23, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: "Dan Evans"
I don't know if it's a glitch or not, but I've only been playing for about 20 minutes and I have level 4 mines, level 2 capitol, level 2 shipyard and am building my first arty. Using the tutorial, I got bonuses. Every time I clicked on build something, there was no wait until I got to level 4 mines.

The new tutorial for Mafia Boss did that as well.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jacq on August 23, 2010, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: "Rohi"
@ Jacq and others

I suggest everyone join OFF facebook as it works.

Then try to log in via facebook. IF it lets you in then send a ticket and address it to John Hunka and get him to sync the two accounts and he will do it for you. Do NOT bother asking Jason as he will say it cannot be done. It CAN be done and John WILL do it.

I did this with the Mafia game. I joined via the off facebook link and so couldn't get MOB credits and I wasn't prepared to send people invites via WINDOWS LIVE or GOOGLE MAIL. So I then I joined via the facebook link and John very kindly synced the two accounts.

The problem at the moment seems to be that one cant log in via facebook so without that John wont be able to sync  the two accounts.


Would love to but silly work bans the direct game link but allows the facebook one.   Go figure.     I will patiently wait for Facebook to get fixed.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: bryn987 on August 23, 2010, 07:28:34 PM
Someone created an Empire alliance?
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: DMMc on August 23, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: "Big S"
Quote from: "Badrash"
The only thing BFG did wrong here, and they did it horribly wrong, was to communicate the plans and creation of the new Universe.  I mean, how many people are going to feel burned because they did not get to start the first hour like everyone else!
Just curious for those who have managed to get a head start, do they allow you to transfer credits? If not, I think the other thing they might be doing wrong is not having you create a master BFG account and then have individual uni mini-accounts that draft off your pool of credits. I'd be pissed if I was wanting to get a new start and found that I had credits that only existed in a uni I'm dropping in favor of a new one.

Starting the first hour did me no good what so ever.  I messed up and didn't create a password from Facebook and now my little world in 1:49 appears lost till further notice.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 23, 2010, 07:32:59 PM
:twisted: You mean someone actually beat an Empire player to a new uni.. :)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 23, 2010, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: "bryn987"
Someone created an Empire alliance?
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
:lol:

1   Cmd. Looney Tunes   EMPIRE    71
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Khan Boylemeister on August 23, 2010, 07:46:24 PM
Looks like someone beat Admiral Bacardi to the name too and created The EMPIRE.

Posers. Uni 2 haz dem.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 23, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
Adm Bacardi is the leader of the The EMPIRE alliance which has 14 members.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 07:48:12 PM
And the race for 1,000 points is on!


Last one there's a rotten egg!!!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 07:48:48 PM
Look like I won the First War in Uni 2.
Someone accepted my war request then you surrendered to my superior power.
Flirefly surrendered to MADE
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 23, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Are you just trying to declare war on everyone?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 23, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Are you just trying to declare war on everyone?

Well not everyone. But yes alot of alliance.
The game is boaring at first you can only run so manny missions before you need to do something to make it more intersting.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: lord_demo on August 23, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
Any one know what are the new features if any of the new universe
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 08:08:34 PM
Preliminary Details:

20 galaxies
Regular building speed
Slightly increased mine production (10-15%?)
And slightly increased mine cost (1-2 O/C so far, with the baby mines)

Aside from that, no idea.

We need to find out how the DF's breakdown and if there is Def to DF
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: DMMc on August 23, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Are you just trying to declare war on everyone?

Well not everyone. But yes alot of alliance.
The game is boaring at first you can only run so manny missions before you need to do something to make it more intersting.


I'll acknoledge superiority ONLY for now...grin
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Overkill on August 23, 2010, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "Jedi C"
[WAR] Made you Look     MADE     1     

    * [ Accept Accept Accept | Reject Reject Reject ]


First War request! Yeahhhhhh!

Did you accept or run and hide form my over powering 2 ships.
i envision 4  Atlas  dukeing it out takeing pot shots at eachother.
 :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Dark Eye on August 23, 2010, 08:36:46 PM
Any rumors on the facebook version ?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 08:55:11 PM
The mines produce slightly more, right?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Duck of Denial on August 23, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
i like the new uni idea

how bout something a bit more fun o.o
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 09:05:51 PM
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
The mines produce slightly more, right?


They certainly don't match the suggested wiki outputs or cost.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Duck of Denial on August 23, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
a new mafia

another 100 players fighing over 10,000 dios of DF in the uni
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 09:14:31 PM
In Mafia Boss the mines produce about 1.2-2x increasingly until around lvl 21-22 for ore and crystal then they make more than 2x what they do in sfco. I actually make about the same per day from my mines in MB than my mines in sfcx even though I have higher lvl mines in sfcx and that is a faster uni that has been around longer.

I think lvl 30 mines in MB produce near 3x as they do in sfco but I no longer have a sfco account to check with...

lvl 29 ore in MB produces this per hour with 10 droids
Ammo(Ore) 46,679
lvl 26 crystal in MB produces this per hour with 9 droids
Money(Crystal) 18,520

Someone can check with original to see how much more that is than there.

I would guess that BFG is using this new mine output at the same as it is in MB, but it could be different.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 09:22:55 PM
First of all, to answer Kimb, I am not going to sit here and defend BFGs customer service policies. They have been a cluster %#&$ since Day 1. First too much, then too little. I fully agree there should be posts on updates, bug fixes, and new additions to the game.

That being said, I dont blame them for not popping on these boards, where they would be HAMMERED and abused by the general posters. Why should they take what we (me included, my post history is pretty plain to see, I think BFG dropped multiple balls multiple times).

OK? Fair enough?
Quote from: "AbsolutZero"
Nice to see that we had 100s of feature requests and the only person who got what they wanted was Bleys.

Bleys, I want to apologize. You're absolutely right, politics and big players run the game. I will never, ever doubt you again.
Maybe they finally figured out what I have been trying to tell them since the day I found this game. That a one-big-Uni plan is NOT viable for a game like this because players will leave and you wont get new players to stay. And gee, look what happened! I must be Nostrodomos or something! Oh wait, no, I have just been playing another game and fighting this same battle for YEARS. You people are amateurs compared to the boards over there, lol.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
Has anyone had any luck with using the facebook app...?
Now THAT is something you can absolutely SCREAM about, notice I have not even remotely touched on it other than to suggest that folks try it the same way we went to "stand alone" in SFCO, the login page has a Tab for "Existing Account", even the non-FB one. Just enter your info, should be the same, yes?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: T.Rex on August 23, 2010, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
Has anyone had any luck with using the facebook app...?

Nope. I'm taking it as a sign that I play too much already.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: mikechi79 on August 23, 2010, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "ali baba"
Has anyone had any luck with using the facebook app...?
Now THAT is something you can absolutely SCREAM about, notice I have not even remotely touched on it other than to suggest that folks try it the same way we went to "stand alone" in SFCO, the login page has a Tab for "Existing Account", even the non-FB one. Just enter your info, should be the same, yes?

Nope.  If you joined the new game through Facebook (like me), you can not use the standalone login until you create the login on the options page. Unfortunately, I didn't do it before the Facebook system died.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Satok on August 23, 2010, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
Has anyone had any luck with using the facebook app...?


Currently they have stopped advertising the FB link.


"New Starfleet Commander universe is now live! Login directly at uni2.playstarfleet.com/"



Also, if you create your account in FB, in order to play outside FB you have to set it up. By default the credentials will not work on the playstarfleet.com address.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 23, 2010, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
The mines produce slightly more, right?

They certainly don't match the suggested wiki outputs or cost.

I just checked my mines. The costs and energy usage appear to match the wiki, but production is higher.

Ore Mine 7 - Prod. 567, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1026/257/0
Wiki Ore 7 - Prod. 409, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1025/256/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Crystal Mine 5 - Prod. 207, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 504/252/0
Wiki Crystal 5 - Prod. 161, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 503/251/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Didn't calculate hydro due to temperature variable.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Satok on August 23, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
The mines produce slightly more, right?

They certainly don't match the suggested wiki outputs or cost.

I just checked my mines. The costs and energy usage appear to match the wiki, but production is higher.

Ore Mine 7 - Prod. 567, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1026/257/0
Wiki Ore 7 - Prod. 409, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1025/256/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Crystal Mine 5 - Prod. 207, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 504/252/0
Wiki Crystal 5 - Prod. 161, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 503/251/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Didn't calculate hydro due to temperature variable.


Do you have any workers in there?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jacq on August 23, 2010, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: "mikechi79"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "ali baba"
Has anyone had any luck with using the facebook app...?
Now THAT is something you can absolutely SCREAM about, notice I have not even remotely touched on it other than to suggest that folks try it the same way we went to "stand alone" in SFCO, the login page has a Tab for "Existing Account", even the non-FB one. Just enter your info, should be the same, yes?

Nope.  If you joined the new game through Facebook (like me), you can not use the standalone login until you create the login on the options page. Unfortunately, I didn't do it before the Facebook system died.


You can send in a support ticket from the original Uni and request they set a password for you.    You need to mention game name and co-ords for Uni2.     Not sure how long it will take them to respond.    For one person I know it was 4 minutes for myself I've been waiting for 4 hrs with the 1st ticket and over an hour with my follow up request.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
Here is without any workers in a lvl 29 ore in MB clicking on the mine give you the list of the level below and the next few levels.
Smuggling: Level 29
Production
Level   Production/h   Difference   Territory Consumption   Difference
28   32931    -5951   4038    563
29   38883    0   4601    0
30   45855    6972   5235    -634
31   54017    15134   5951    -1350

Here is the same for sfcx so divide production by two for sfco values:
Ore Mine: Level 29
Production
Level   Production/h   Difference   Energy Consumption   Difference
28   24227    -3374   4038    563
29   27601    0   4601    0
30   31408    3807   5235    -634
31   35701    8099   5951    -1350

Here is a lvl 20 ore in MB since I dont have a lower one...
Smuggling: Level 20
Production
Level   Production/h   Difference   Territory Consumption   Difference
19   6871    -1374   1163    183
20   8246    0   1346    0
21   9870    1624   1555    -209
22   11788    3542   1791    -445
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
The mines produce slightly more, right?

They certainly don't match the suggested wiki outputs or cost.

I just checked my mines. The costs and energy usage appear to match the wiki, but production is higher.

Ore Mine 7 - Prod. 567, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1026/257/0
Wiki Ore 7 - Prod. 409, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1025/256/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Crystal Mine 5 - Prod. 207, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 504/252/0
Wiki Crystal 5 - Prod. 161, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 503/251/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Didn't calculate hydro due to temperature variable.


Mine were off by 1 or 2 ore/crystal here or there early on. I'll check upgrades alter.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
Why not just restart? The tutorial blows by in a minute, then you are already mining away.

A few hours and/or a couple K res is meaningless and trivial guys, come one. Listen to me for once, I have restarted in Unis many many times. Even a few days is nothing, you can go for a g2 HW start starting a couple days late. I started my current Uni in OG a month late, its 2x, and I am rank 5. Its not about who gets in first, its about who puts more hours in probing than the others and who invests their resources more accurately than others over TIME.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: bryn987 on August 23, 2010, 09:57:08 PM
Im stuck waiting to get 200 hydro so I can research.  No crew people to invite :(
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 10:05:41 PM
Seems now they've done the right change on the mines!  :D  :D  :D  :D
Congratulations, BFG, that's exactly what I and my math monsters college mates thought they should!
They've changed the exponential base from 1.1 to 1.14. Now the mines grow faster and the bigger they are the more they grow in production. The new formulas are:

Ore production = Floor(20*x*(1.14)^x) + 10
Crystal production = Floor(30*x*(1.14)^x) + 20

I didn't looked hydrogen. But I bet the change is the same.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
I guess they didnt do much to the tutorial at all, and the game needs a much stronger one. I have tried a couple other games just to check out their tutorials, and only 1 did a reasonable job IMHO.

I do think a series of tutorials should be done. Now is the time. Some players who left should come back, they will learn quicker. Fleetsaving and Farming Inactives at a minimum. But eventually, I think you will be surprised at how the Unis start staying a bit more active. BTW, this Uni will die too. Just so you all know. Understanding that is the first step to playing this as a game, not practicing it as a religion.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 23, 2010, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: "Satok"
Quote from: "SGS 6"
I just checked my mines. The costs and energy usage appear to match the wiki, but production is higher.

Ore Mine 7 - Prod. 567, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1026/257/0
Wiki Ore 7 - Prod. 409, Energy 137, cost to upgrade 1025/256/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Crystal Mine 5 - Prod. 207, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 504/252/0
Wiki Crystal 5 - Prod. 161, Energy 81, cost to upgrade 503/251/0 (this may be a rounding error)

Didn't calculate hydro due to temperature variable.


Do you have any workers in there?

Those are the numbers without any workers.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 10:23:13 PM
The effects of this change:

Code: [Select]
Level New C   New O      C        O
1       32         54         32        53
2       61         97         58        92
3       98         153        89        139
4       145        222        127       195
5       202        308        171       261
6       273        415        222       338
7       360        545        282       429
8       466        704        352       534
9       595        898        434       656
10      751        1132       528       798
11      939        1414       637       961
12      1166       1754       763       1149
13      1438       2162       907       1366
14      1763       2649       1073      1614
15      2151       3232       1263      1899
16      2613       3925       1480      2225
17      3163       4750       1728      2597
18      3817       5730       2011      3022
19      4591       6891       2334      3506
20      5507       8266       2700      4056
21      6590       9890       3118      4682
22      7868       11808      3591      5392
23      9376       14069      4128      6198
24      11151      16732      4737      7111
25      13240      19866      5427      8146
26      15696      23549      6207      9316
27      18580      27875      7089      10639
28      21964      32951      8085      12133
29      25932      38903      9210      13820
30      30580      45875      10479     15724
31      36021      54037      11910     17870
32      42387      63586      13522     20289
33      49830      74750      15338     23012

The change has a low effect on low level mines, but for the bigger ones it's really big. Look at level 20 mines, the production is double. At level 31 it goes to three times the original universe production.
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Post by: Odai Basha on August 23, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
You have flipped to positions of Ore and Crystal

and there's a slight mistake

i currently have ore mine lvl 7 crystal lvl 6

production   
Ore525
Crystal263
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Post by: Bleys on August 23, 2010, 10:33:03 PM
Good info. I may go straight miner, no raiding whatsoever. Need defenses though, that blows, but not many if I keep the planets clean enough.
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: "Odai Basha"
You have flipped to positions of Ore and Crystal

and there's a slight mistake

i currently have ore mine lvl 7 crystal lvl 6

production   
Ore525
Crystal263

I've included the 20 ore and 10 crystal that the planet produces hourly. Thank you for noticing the mistake, I flipped the header. Fixed.
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Post by: bryn987 on August 23, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Time to toggle d mode :P
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 10:43:28 PM
I will slap you  :lol:
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 10:44:50 PM
I think they have to change the diplomacy taxes to something in the form f(x) = 1 - exp(x), where x is the resources spent points and exp(.) is some exponential function. Or perhaps f(x) = 0.9 - exp(x), something like that.
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Post by: Inferno on August 23, 2010, 10:53:01 PM
Is there a BUG in the tutorial?

My buildings are automatically completing the moment I click on them. The first couple didn't, but Solar Array Lvl 2 and Hydro synth, etc.
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Post by: Jacq on August 23, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: "Inferno"
Is there a BUG in the tutorial?

My buildings are automatically completing the moment I click on them. The first couple didn't, but Solar Array Lvl 2 and Hydro synth, etc.

No that's the bonus of doing the tutorial.    Be happy.    Make ships.     Look forward to blowing up ships.      :D
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Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Good info. I may go straight miner, no raiding whatsoever. Need defenses though, that blows, but not many if I keep the planets clean enough.
Im rank 4 in MB for build points with no D and 1.5-2k sats powering my planets, AND I havent fleet saved in 3 months there. I even have a planet maxed out with 64 fields since I never recored since planed on getting farmed to death and quitting. Since I didn't I just kept building mines and sats and now have the number 3 fleet size as well even though I dot attack anyone or even raid in-actives lol. I think the suicide crash is the end of this week but dont quote me on it I built about 8k apollo for it since I dont even have warp 5 yet lol.
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Post by: GoAT on August 23, 2010, 10:58:21 PM
Is there any difference in flight times, I've been told that the ships travel at 2X speed, but I'm not sure how true it is.

That question may be answered already, but I'm not arsed to look through 22 pages right now LOL
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Post by: Big S on August 23, 2010, 11:00:09 PM
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
I think they have to change the diplomacy taxes to something in the form f(x) = 1 - exp(x), where x is the resources spent points and exp(.) is some exponential function. Or perhaps f(x) = 0.9 - exp(x), something like that.
You are saying taxes should start at 1 and rapidly go into negatives at an exponential rate? I'll take a negative tax on d mode,  :shock:
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Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 11:01:27 PM
Quote from: "GoAT"
Is there any difference in flight times, I've been told that the ships travel at 2X speed, but I'm not sure how true it is.

That question may be answered already, but I'm not arsed to look through 22 pages right now LOL
Same speed for ships movements as sfco so only  1x for speed....
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Post by: Inferno on August 23, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
Has anyone found the Wormhole between Universes yet? I want to transport some resources to the new place.
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Post by: Master on August 23, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: "Inferno"
Has anyone found the Wormhole between Universes yet? I want to transport some resources to the new place.
yeah just pm me your credit card number and....
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: "Big S"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
I think they have to change the diplomacy taxes to something in the form f(x) = 1 - exp(x), where x is the resources spent points and exp(.) is some exponential function. Or perhaps f(x) = 0.9 - exp(x), something like that.
You are saying taxes should start at 1 and rapidly go into negatives at an exponential rate? I'll take a negative tax on d mode,  :shock:

It's a negative exponential function, obviously. Goes to 1. lol But I'm just guessing. Perhaps it's fine the way it is.
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Post by: =Gideon= on August 23, 2010, 11:08:22 PM
I created a new uni v2 account earlier in the day and now it won't let me access. I even changed my password which it let me do successfully and still can't access it. tells me invalid login or password. I never did link it to my facebook account.
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Post by: BlackShirt on August 23, 2010, 11:19:43 PM
And I still cannot log back in through facebook- I can feel my rank slipping, and that lone artie I built is GONNA GET WIPED by Aaron Moon....  sniff- rage quit already!!!
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 11:20:12 PM
Level 10 ore mine, represent!!
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Post by: giantkiller on August 23, 2010, 11:39:31 PM
for those wondering, the main difference so far is you can have up to 18 planets, but I'm still doing the tutorial.  you also start over with 10,000 credits.
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Post by: SFC expert on August 23, 2010, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: "giantkiller"
for those wondering, the main difference so far is you can have up to 18 planets, but I'm still doing the tutorial.  you also start over with 10,000 credits.

Where did you get this information?
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 23, 2010, 11:41:56 PM
"18 planets" = 9 planets + 9 moons... right?
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Post by: BrianC on August 23, 2010, 11:42:15 PM
Quote from: "giantkiller"
for those wondering, the main difference so far is you can have up to 18 planets, but I'm still doing the tutorial.  you also start over with 10,000 credits.


No, 18 planets and moons, same as Original/Extreme, and the credits are the same.
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Post by: Jared1701 on August 24, 2010, 12:04:50 AM
Do you like the new universe as it is or should they add more functions and if so what???

I have heared some people ask for more planets to colonize.  I have heard for new ships as well (would love to see my Olympic class ship in there).

It does seam like they just made SFC available off Face book is all.  I would have liked to seen some new functions or tech or ships.....
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Post by: Odai Basha on August 24, 2010, 12:08:22 AM
they should have at least made it a fast one
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Post by: Big S on August 24, 2010, 12:08:34 AM
I wonder if Captain and Cadet will travel to this new universe. One can only hope!
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 12:11:15 AM
Quote from: "Odai Basha"
they should have at least made it a fast one

Negative. It's fine the way it is.
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Post by: giantkiller on August 24, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
Quote from: "giantkiller"
for those wondering, the main difference so far is you can have up to 18 planets, but I'm still doing the tutorial.  you also start over with 10,000 credits.

Where did you get this information?

click the link to start an account.  says it on the first page
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Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 12:15:18 AM
As stated by others,It's 9 planets and 9 moon.Otherwise we would have 18 colony slot on the main page.
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Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 12:15:33 AM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Level 10 ore mine, represent!!
They need power you know. Doesnt count if your -89 energy, heh.

That reminds me, I hope they have MUCH better cheater detection this time around. Both the originals are a tad tainted still, IMHO. Less so as they age, but still.

And giantkiller, as Brian just said, its 18 "heavenly bodies", 9 planets + 9 moons. Thats where they get 18.
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 12:16:28 AM
They have energy! I'm just barely getting by on Hydrogen right now lol
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Post by: BC_PD on August 24, 2010, 12:21:26 AM
The direct link off of Facebook works but there seems to be problems on Facebook's end as I just got an error message when I tried to get in through the Facebook Link. I do not have an idea nor have I heard of when the issue will be resolved. I am currently waiting for the leader of our sister alliance over there to be able to log in so we can all join.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BC_PD on August 24, 2010, 12:23:42 AM
ALWAYS remember to create an OFF FACEBOOK ID & PASSWORD for your accunt just in case this thing with Facebook ever happens again. That way you can go in directly through the game's site itself.
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Post by: airboy69 on August 24, 2010, 12:24:46 AM
BFG = 2 guys in their moms basement

Lets make sure we keep supplying enough for their frozen pizzas  :lol:
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Post by: giantkiller on August 24, 2010, 01:00:08 AM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Level 10 ore mine, represent!!
They need power you know. Doesnt count if your -89 energy, heh.

That reminds me, I hope they have MUCH better cheater detection this time around. Both the originals are a tad tainted still, IMHO. Less so as they age, but still.

And giantkiller, as Brian just said, its 18 "heavenly bodies", 9 planets + 9 moons. Thats where they get 18.
maybe just wishful thinking?  thanks bleys
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Post by: Cannon balls on August 24, 2010, 01:07:42 AM
I find it funny how players from good alliances jump over to odb. They are becoming the new "new hope"

I love all you front runners.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 01:40:28 AM
Quote from: "Cannon balls"
I find it funny how players from good alliances jump over to odb. They are becoming the new "new hope"

I love all you front runners.


Uh, no.

It's still pretty much ODB from original, plus a few key forum personas :D
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Post by: bryn987 on August 24, 2010, 01:51:13 AM
Quote from: "Cannon balls"
I find it funny how players from good alliances jump over to odb. They are becoming the new "new hope"

I love all you front runners.

ya, no originality.

The leaderboard is quite amusing though.  There's a guy on there in the top 5 that got smashed by Star Wars over 4 months ago in original and ran to dmode and has been there ever since.  Guess he feels this new uni is going to be his big comeback  :lol:
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Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 01:55:06 AM
Don't worry too much about him. The leaderboards are pretty volatile right now, as close together as everyone is. And if you look, a lot of the people near the top have a lot of Crew Points, which means they probably got friends or bought androids.

(I know I did, but I'm not bragging about my ranking, either.)
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Post by: bryn987 on August 24, 2010, 02:01:14 AM
Def not looking forward to all the stupid "i claim this first posts"

I claim the first victory
I claim the first athena
I claim the first prom
I claim the fist zeus
I claim being the first douchebag
etc
etc
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 02:03:44 AM
I don't plan to post any of those (here) myself, although my alliance is keeping an internal list.
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Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 02:07:29 AM
I agree everything is volatile right now. It just a building war right now. Give it time for the fun to start.
Come there is one guy runni9ng around declairing war on everyone. Then braggind why someone surrenders.
By the way we are up to 2 war victorys now.
I think I claim being the first douchebag :D
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 02:14:05 AM
I claim the first 6 fleet points. It's true.

 :lol:
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 02:17:07 AM
I was about to claim first douchebag :(

Damn.

First level 10 ore mine, MINE!!!!

Probably first level 7 crystal as well  :lol:

haven't upgraded them in a few hours ;)
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Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 02:18:55 AM
I claim I'm the first to discover what has been changed in mines production!  :geek:
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Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 02:24:28 AM
ya but not all of them   ;)

Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Cannon balls"
I find it funny how players from good alliances jump over to odb. They are becoming the new "new hope"

I love all you front runners.


Uh, no.

It's still pretty much ODB from original, plus a few key forum personas :D
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Post by: nullsmurf on August 24, 2010, 02:25:14 AM
My GOD!  15 minutes gone, never to be recovered.
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Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 02:29:19 AM
There's a guy in [2:15] who might just be the first person suspended...
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 02:32:40 AM
The first V is in my system in the beginning of G1 :D
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Post by: Khan Boylemeister on August 24, 2010, 02:53:41 AM
What I've found most amusing so far is the people who have already started building defenses.

It's going to be a few days at the very least before anyone will actually need them.
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 03:03:29 AM
It's going to be close, a couple of us are flirting with the 50-60RSP mark as is :D
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Post by: lizzrd on August 24, 2010, 03:06:17 AM
my gawd!! I better go into dip!
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Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 03:08:24 AM
I never thought research did such a good thing to your ranking.I'm 208 overall,but 5 in research. :D
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Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 03:11:06 AM
Ugh I cant believe there is a diplomacy mode in this Uni. Single Player Farmvillers can play in Original, sheesh.
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Post by: Evan Woodard on August 24, 2010, 03:12:23 AM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Ugh I cant believe there is a diplomacy mode in this Uni. Single Player Farmvillers can play in Original, sheesh.

Eh, (d) is nice for short vacations where you want to rack up at least some resources while your away.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 03:17:01 AM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
I never thought research did such a good thing to your ranking.I'm 208 overall,but 5 in research. :D

Completely useless right now to research anything other than AI techs, and unlocking Atlas.
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Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 03:22:23 AM
Quote from: "Evan Woodard"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Ugh I cant believe there is a diplomacy mode in this Uni. Single Player Farmvillers can play in Original, sheesh.

Eh, (d) is nice for short vacations where you want to rack up at least some resources while your away.
Sure, but thats not how its used. Its used to play Single Player SFC. There is already a Uni for that. If you need a few days off, thats what V is for.
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Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 03:36:42 AM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Ugh I cant believe there is a diplomacy mode in this Uni. Single Player Farmvillers can play in Original, sheesh.

Quote from: "Evan Woodard"
Eh, (d) is nice for short vacations where you want to rack up at least some resources while your away.
Quote from: "Bleys"
Sure, but thats not how its used. Its used to play Single Player SFC. There is already a Uni for that. If you need a few days off, thats what V is for.

Not always. I personally have dipped into diplo twice in the last three months; both were for less than 24 hours before I toggled back out. Due to the nature of my job, things sometimes get unpredictable when holiday weekends or special events come into play. (Most recently, the first NFL preseason game, which was on the same day as a required-overtime seminar at work. The one before that was Fourth of July weekend, and I had a 38-galaxy deploy going before I found out what the special work schedule was, and needed to use diplo to cover it landing.)
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Post by: Reaver on August 24, 2010, 03:41:34 AM
How do I turn off that frakking tutorial and keep it from constantly popping-up?
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Post by: Khan Boylemeister on August 24, 2010, 03:43:44 AM
Quote from: "Reaver"
How do I turn off that frakking tutorial and keep it from constantly popping-up?

Just click through it. It's worth it, and it takes about 5 minutes or less. It gives you a good base, and some nice bonus res to get started. Then you can do what you want.
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Post by: Satok on August 24, 2010, 03:55:03 AM
Quote from: "Khan Boylemeister"
Quote from: "Reaver"
How do I turn off that frakking tutorial and keep it from constantly popping-up?

Just click through it. It's worth it, and it takes about 5 minutes or less. It gives you a good base, and some nice bonus res to get started. Then you can do what you want.


Yea, the tutorial really helps you get started...Speeds up some early building and free res...
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 03:56:27 AM
:evil: I'm not seeing any sort of resource bonus on this new uni..
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Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Not always. I personally have dipped into diplo twice in the last three months; both were for less than 24 hours before I toggled back out. Due to the nature of my job, things sometimes get unpredictable when holiday weekends or special events come into play.
Then I am not referring to you mate. But look around in Original, that is how the vast majority of players in D are playing. Full time, single player, and many probably wouldnt even still be playing if not for D. Fine. No worries.

So why do we need it here? Just use V, and suck it up. Lets not keep a broken mechanic in the game just because it CAN be used like you use it, lets get rid of it so others cant use it full time.
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Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 04:01:51 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: I'm not seeing any sort of resource bonus on this new uni..

It's not "visible", but if you compare to the values in the Wiki, the mines produce more. I'm at Ore 9 and Crystal 9 now, and...

Ore production - 636 (Wiki) - 898 (Uni 2)
Crystal production - 424 (Wiki) - 595 (Uni 2)

And yes, that's without workers.
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Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 04:04:41 AM
I agree with SGS 6 it has its uses. Real life comes in the way some times.

Quote from: "Bleys"
So why do we need it here? Just use V, and suck it up. Lets not keep a broken mechanic in the game just because it CAN be used like you use it, lets get rid of it so others cant use it full time.

I would like to see a time limit that would cover most people. If not then use V mode.
Just V Mode would be good to but it needs changes. I do not like how you can not toggle it you have research lab running or ships in the que. Some times things come up in real life and you need to do something now.
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Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 04:11:24 AM
Quote from: "Hammer"
Just V Mode would be good to but it needs changes. I do not like how you can not toggle it you have research lab running or ships in the que. Some times things come up in real life and you need to do something now.
Yes, they do. So dont fill your SY queue, and dont fleetsave for days at a time, and you'll be fine. Cancel buildings, go V. I do it in minor Unis all the time. In my "main" I never go V, but thats me.

If D mode had some modifications that limited its use, sure. But it doesnt. This is the point. Its single player mode, pure and simple. We have a Uni for players who dont care about rank or interaction with the population of the game, its called Original. They can play that way there. As it currently stands, some will come here and play it, because its probably boring there. Yes, I see the irony, but its going to happen.

Its not a bad concept. I am not against D. I am in D in Original, actually climbed from 8500 to 7500 over the last month or so. Whatever, its not a bad feature at all. But you dont need more than 1 Universe with it.
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 04:15:28 AM
:evil: an Arti takes 48 minutes to attack within system.. I'm not seeing ANY bonus in production... this looks/feels just like a mini-original... not happy... I guess I'm just "whining".. but holding still awaiting word from above as to what this uni is all about.. but everything I'm seeing is pointing to a mini-original..  :evil:
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Post by: Satok on August 24, 2010, 04:16:01 AM
I think the false assumption is that taking away D mode will force all the D-mode players to realy play the game. If they do not want to play PVP then they will just quit the game.

I happen to believe that some of the D-Mode players buy credits, thus helping the game. I also know some D-mode players trade and transport resources to their alliance mates, that become ships for me to kill.

I don't really use D-Mode but that is my way.


That being said, I would not be against diplo tax increasing over time. To "reset" the tax, you toggle out of diplo for 24 hours (giving us a shot at you)
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Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 04:32:36 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: an Arti takes 48 minutes to attack within system.. I'm not seeing ANY bonus in production... this looks/feels just like a mini-original... not happy... I guess I'm just "whining".. but holding still awaiting word from above as to what this uni is all about.. but everything I'm seeing is pointing to a mini-original..  :evil:

You're not looking hard enough if you're not seeing the production bonuses. I posted numbers twice already in this thread, including once AFTER you mentioned it. Or just compare your own mines to the Wiki values. (I currently have level 9 in Ore and Crystal and production is up by about 40%.)
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 04:36:37 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: an Arti takes 48 minutes to attack within system.. I'm not seeing ANY bonus in production... this looks/feels just like a mini-original... not happy... I guess I'm just "whining".. but holding still awaiting word from above as to what this uni is all about.. but everything I'm seeing is pointing to a mini-original..  :evil:


Production difference.

And, like I've already said. Be patient, let's see if there is a DF% or Def to DF change.
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Post by: Catfish on August 24, 2010, 04:42:10 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: an Arti takes 48 minutes to attack within system.. I'm not seeing ANY bonus in production... this looks/feels just like a mini-original... not happy... I guess I'm just "whining".. but holding still awaiting word from above as to what this uni is all about.. but everything I'm seeing is pointing to a mini-original..  :evil:
Get you panties out of a knot, nobody ever said it was anything different........

As a matter of fact, nobody's said anything about it. Not even a word in the Features and Updates forum.
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Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 04:44:34 AM
:evil: Although I like the idea of a new uni.. I'd like official word what I'm dealing with.. if it's a mini-original I'm not going to waste my time on it.. I'm more upset at lack of word from above..
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Post by: Dread Pirate Ragnar on August 24, 2010, 05:19:53 AM
So far, it seems very similar to Original. Mission times and payouts are the same, production is a *little* faster. It's hard to tell more than that, the guy at #1 RSP only has 60 points, so nobody knows what attack speeds or debris % are going to be, much less anything about moons. I am pretty surprised there has been no official word  on anything, not even a Wiki page.
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: Although I like the idea of a new uni.. I'd like official word what I'm dealing with.. if it's a mini-original I'm not going to waste my time on it.. I'm more upset at lack of word from above..


Christ already we get it, you don't need to make 15 posts about it.

We get it, you want official word about the Universe before you decide.

Great, noted. Figured that out 12 hours ago, awesome. Don't need the reminder.

Sit down, shut up, wait for Matt to post if you'd like.
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Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 05:35:07 AM
Quote from: "Dread Pirate Ragnar"
So far, it seems very similar to Original. Mission times and payouts are the same, production is a *little* faster. It's hard to tell more than that, the guy at #1 RSP only has 60 points, so nobody knows what attack speeds or debris % are going to be, much less anything about moons. I am pretty surprised there has been no official word  on anything, not even a Wiki page.


Same production speeds, same attack speeds (from the look of it), the only difference so far is it's 20 galaxies and more production from mines.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 05:39:52 AM
Hey BC...guess what time it is!!!



(http://http://seventytwopinconnector.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tecmo-super-bowl-sports-bra-cheerleader-blow-kiss-half-time.PNG)



Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: Although I like the idea of a new uni.. I'd like official word what I'm dealing with.. if it's a mini-original I'm not going to waste my time on it.. I'm more upset at lack of word from above..


Christ already we get it, you don't need to make 15 posts about it.

We get it, you want official word about the Universe before you decide.

Great, noted. Figured that out 12 hours ago, awesome. Don't need the reminder.

Sit down, shut up, wait for Matt to post if you'd like.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 05:44:54 AM
:evil: you can go to the fleet page and type in coordinates and even though you can't attack... Time will show... I'm seeing a mini Original...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 05:49:31 AM
For Victor

http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/St ... ining.jpeg (http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/Stop%20Whining.jpeg)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 05:50:32 AM
Yes fleet movements are the same as original I checked with my excel tool for the timing and they matched with 1x speed uni.

Mine production increases dramatically with the level of mines though, in MB with this mine growth I had to build foundries on all planets very early in order to spend res as fast as it was coming in.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 05:52:16 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:evil: you can go to the fleet page and type in coordinates and even though you can't attack... Time will show... I'm seeing a mini Original...


Time will show that all you're going to do is post the same funing post 24 more times over the next 17 hours until Matt posts.

We understand your concerns.

Now. Shut it. Unless you have something different to add.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 05:52:55 AM
Mona, I will not make out with you under the bleachers, and you know why  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 05:53:21 AM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
For Victor

http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/St ... ining.jpeg (http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/Stop%20Whining.jpeg)
.
 :twisted: Good one... We'll see.. Interested to see how long it will be until official word comes out.. so far unimpressed and I might be one of the first (in)... I'll keep mines on and let everyone do their 45 minute in system/1.5 hour out of system attacks..  :twisted:
.
 :evil: I could deal with the lower production.. but I'll be dammed if I'm going to go through slow ass original speeds..
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 05:57:23 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
Quote from: "SFC expert"
For Victor

http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/St ... ining.jpeg (http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/Stop%20Whining.jpeg)
.
 :twisted: Good one... We'll see.. Interested to see how long it will be until official word comes out.. so far unimpressed and I might be one of the first (in)... I'll keep mines on and let everyone do their 45 minute in system/1.5 hour out of system attacks..  :twisted:
.
 :evil: I could deal with the lower production.. but I'll be dammed if I'm going to go through slow ass original speeds..


You will. It's been confirmed about 30 times now, if you'd care to read instead of whine like a baby.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 06:02:34 AM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
Quote from: "SFC expert"
For Victor

http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/St ... ining.jpeg (http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/Stop%20Whining.jpeg)
.
 :twisted: Good one... We'll see.. Interested to see how long it will be until official word comes out.. so far unimpressed and I might be one of the first (in)... I'll keep mines on and let everyone do their 45 minute in system/1.5 hour out of system attacks..  :twisted:
.
 :evil: I could deal with the lower production.. but I'll be dammed if I'm going to go through slow ass original speeds..


You will. It's been confirmed about 30 times now, if you'd care to read instead of whine like a baby.
.
 :evil: I'm not whining.. Just stating the obvious... and disappointed.. I really like this game and it has potential.. for some reason it burns my goat to watch a good game managed into the ground.. and That's what I'm seeing...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Fuzzy Badfeet on August 24, 2010, 06:03:29 AM
(http://http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/cholizo/booberror.gif)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Fuzzy Badfeet on August 24, 2010, 06:04:43 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
I'm not whining.. Just stating the obvious... and disappointed.. I really like this game and it has potential.. for some reason it burns my goat to watch a good game managed into the ground.. and That's what I'm seeing...

(http://http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/cholizo/tumbleweed-1.gif)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Athena on August 24, 2010, 06:06:29 AM
Brian - Honey, how many of the posts in this thread are yours?  :P

VD - "burns my goat?"  :shock:  interesting imagery there.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:08:18 AM
Quote from: "Athena"
Brian - Honey, how many of the posts in this thread are yours?  :P

VD - "burns my goat?"  :shock:  interesting imagery there.


Not enough.


In other news. We should have our first player out of newbie protection within the hour, at the rate paradox is flying.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 06:10:00 AM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Athena"
Brian - Honey, how many of the posts in this thread are yours?  :P

VD - "burns my goat?"  :shock:  interesting imagery there.


Not enough.


In other news. We should have our first player out of newbie protection within the hour, at the rate paradox is flying.

Doesn't really make much difference - other than bragging rights - until the second or third...
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Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 06:16:02 AM
because you have a cute CUTE BUM and I like to sing songs about it????????


It's a wonderful bum, a precious BUM, the best kind of BUM around. round and tight its perfectly ripe, yes his BUM makes for the most delightful sight. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BC has a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM....OHHHHHHHHHHHHH BC has a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM

Quote from: "BrianC"
Mona, I will not make out with you under the bleachers, and you know why  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Vlad on August 24, 2010, 06:19:35 AM
It still wont let me play , 8hrs lost :(
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
I'm not whining.. Just stating the obvious... and disappointed.. I really like this game and it has potential.. for some reason it burns my goat to watch a good game managed into the ground.. and That's what I'm seeing...
Vic, different people want different things. I think this Uni will be successful. I think they will follow it up with another speed Uni, maybe with another twist. Who knows?

Just delete the link to the game and the board for a month or so again, and come back and see if YOU like it then. If YOU dont, play something else. Some of us are playing this right now. Maybe, later, like you, we will see it as overly redundant and move on ourselves, but how about we decide that for ourselves?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:21:55 AM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Athena"
Brian - Honey, how many of the posts in this thread are yours?  :P

VD - "burns my goat?"  :shock:  interesting imagery there.


Not enough.


In other news. We should have our first player out of newbie protection within the hour, at the rate paradox is flying.

Doesn't really make much difference - other than bragging rights - until the second or third...


Being the first out won't matter much, aside from bragging rights.

But, being miles ahead of everyone else in RSP, that's getting yourself ahead of the competition.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
because you have a cute CUTE BUM and I like to sing songs about it????????


It's a wonderful bum, a precious BUM, the best kind of BUM around. round and tight its perfectly ripe, yes his BUM makes for the most delightful sight. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BC has a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM....OHHHHHHHHHHHHH BC has a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM, a cute lil BUM

Quote from: "BrianC"
Mona, I will not make out with you under the bleachers, and you know why  ;)

I quit you.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 06:42:10 AM
liar liar liar.

Quote from: "BrianC"

I quit you.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Oort on August 24, 2010, 06:49:28 AM
This new universe is the worse direction BFG coulda gone. Splitting an already dwindling player base. I could see it if the current uni was full, but its far from it.

This is what's going to happen. People will jump to uni2 because they want to be able to start fresh for a shot at the top, but in a month when the few dedicated players of the herd pull out ahead then the same problems as in original will happen. People will start quitting. Or calling for yet another uni and the player base will be cut in all uni again.

It's a dwindling failure formula.

BFG needs to get more players before splitting them up. They really need to focus on more updates and upgrades to original.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:04:15 AM
Looks like Paradox went to bed, didn't break the 100 RSP mark just yet. I made a huge move into 4th in RSP, from 10th. Clicking off a mine and going to bed.



Oort, people can multitask. I've been playing O, O2, and Extreme all night without a problem.

And, to some people, this universe will be more appealing.

So, you may think it's a bad idea, others may not.

Lets wish it all well and let the chips fall where they may.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kip Shiller on August 24, 2010, 08:16:21 AM
i just ran out of hydro, i have 3 hydro left. i saw that there was no (n) or (N) next to me and a buddy so i figured i could attack someone. i scanned 35 systems to the right and 25 to the left before i ran out of gas, and ppl the same rank are (n) and some are (N) so im confused. i thought we could attack ppl in our same bracket, we just started we are all in the same lot. let me attack something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 08:18:24 AM
Quote from: "Kip Shiller"
i just ran out of hydro, i have 3 hydro left. i saw that there was no (n) or (N) next to me and a buddy so i figured i could attack someone. i scanned 35 systems to the right and 25 to the left before i ran out of gas, and ppl the same rank are (n) and some are (N) so im confused. i thought we could attack ppl in our same bracket, we just started we are all in the same lot. let me attack something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's two different brackets to newbie protection. There's a minimum number of points, under which you cannot attack or be attacked at all. (We're all below that right now.) Then there's the second bracket, more familiar, with the 20-500% rule. (Nobody has gotten there quite yet.)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kip Shiller on August 24, 2010, 08:24:53 AM
well thanks, i just dont know if i can be this patient. but it might be fun to play while waiting for my stuff in extreme to land. ill see how long i can stick with it, or become a farm lol
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Foolio79 on August 24, 2010, 08:59:31 AM
Quote from: "Kip Shiller"
Quote from: "Foolio79"
Another slow uni?  WTF is the point?

i second the wtf. someone please farm my level 1 ore mine, i quit.

Likewise.  Farm me. I'm higher than level one since I used my credits to get up to 5/3!!!!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: tuhis on August 24, 2010, 10:12:30 AM
This new uni ruined all my plans to get a new comic page done. :(

Clicking off missions with a tablet stylus is fun, though.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Sid82 on August 24, 2010, 11:56:35 AM
so i decided to make an account in the new uni last night...was half asleep...now I can't remember what name I used... :?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: miann on August 24, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Is anyone else not able to log in? I mad an account yesterday morning and was playing from facebook. but now if I try to log in it says it not available... and because i didnt set up a password i cant log in the non-facebook page... this is really gay cause i was in top 200
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: miann on August 24, 2010, 01:47:26 PM
I think im just going to quit this universe... unless i facebook is fixed and i can make it to top 500 within a few days just staying in extreme...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 01:48:47 PM
Why dont you guys just RE-START on the non-FB log-in? It wont be multi-accounting if you never log back into the old ones. Its not like your miles behind, sheesh.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: mikechi79 on August 24, 2010, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: "miann"
Is anyone else not able to log in? I mad an account yesterday morning and was playing from facebook. but now if I try to log in it says it not available... and because i didnt set up a password i cant log in the non-facebook page... this is really gay cause i was in top 200

It's not gay.  It might be frustrating, disappointing, annoying, lame, aggravating or bad.  But not gay.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
How about they re-set the Game and notify when the game is going to be relessed


Is there a reason behind it?

Don't make a statement if you don't have a case to make for it.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
Quote from: "ali baba"
How about they re-set the Game and notify when the game is going to be relessed
Yeah, that makes sense. Make the other 6500ish players re-start because YOU cant get on and refuse to just make a new account. Brilliant.

Typical though, I think the percentage of players in games like this who actually THINK the game revolves around THEM is staggeringly high. Just look through the Feature Request section if you dont believe me.

Your a crappy troll ali, seriously. I hope I find you in-game early.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: DEMON KNIGHT on August 24, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Simply put I think the majority of players that come to the new universe might have a better shot at staying a bit longer.  those that didn't like the first universe but stuck it out might be driven to stay a bit longer.  Those that never liked the first one probably won't come to the new one.

We might have a better retention level in universe 2 for a while.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: miann on August 24, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Why dont you guys just RE-START on the non-FB log-in? It wont be multi-accounting if you never log back into the old ones. Its not like your miles behind, sheesh.

Because I started an Alliance that is active in extreme and im the leader of it, for now, and i cant even log in...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 24, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: "miann"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Why dont you guys just RE-START on the non-FB log-in? It wont be multi-accounting if you never log back into the old ones. Its not like your miles behind, sheesh.

Because I started an Alliance that is active in extreme and im the leader of it, for now, and i cant even log in...
The account will be auto-deleted anyway in a couple weeks. I seriously suggest you just bail on it. You will still be able to get the alliance name back, or you can just use a variation like adding a 2 or something.

I agree its horrible that this is happening, and to be honest ali, I do think that if its a massive problem, like ... 25% of accounts started in FB and cant be salvaged for whatever reason, they just might restart. Wouldnt be the end of the world. We cant tell how many are affected yet though, but we will in a week or so when the (i)s start appearing.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
The account will be auto-deleted anyway in a couple weeks. I seriously suggest you just bail on it. You will still be able to get the alliance name back, or you can just use a variation like adding a 2 or something.

I think it is more like 30 days.
There is no reason BFG could not make paswords for the people that logged on through fassbook. Then they could log on directly like we are doing.

Plus how can they accept my request for war if he can not log into his account as leader of the allaince. :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jacq on August 24, 2010, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: "miann"
Quote from: "Bleys"
Why dont you guys just RE-START on the non-FB log-in? It wont be multi-accounting if you never log back into the old ones. Its not like your miles behind, sheesh.

Because I started an Alliance that is active in extreme and im the leader of it, for now, and i cant even log in...


I'm in the same situation.    I can't log in since yesterday either because of the facebook problem.     I've submitted a ticket and am waiting for a password reset so I can at least access it though the standalone.      I'm also currently set as the leader of an alliance and can't assign that to our new leader until I can log in.     It is extremely frustrating but I'm not resetting my account.    

Bleys, while sometimes you have useful information you are not in the same situation so you have no business criticizing someone who is.      Just go play the game because you can.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 04:30:10 PM
Quote from: "Jacq"
I'm also currently set as the leader of an alliance and can't assign that to our new leader until I can log in.

You should just quit and restart and join my alliance anyways. You know you want to :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Adhemar on August 24, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
ok on page 33 and still no thing from BFG

please fill us in.

make ships faster

maybe if you just make the techs more effective so they end up faster say 15, 30, 45 instead of 10, 20, 30
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 04:37:53 PM
So far I like the new Uni. I hope those of you that are blocked get back in soon.  ;)

Hammer I don't know that we will accept your war request...but we do look forward to showing you some special care bear attention as soon as it is profitable for us to do so  :twisted:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Jacq on August 24, 2010, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "Jacq"
I'm also currently set as the leader of an alliance and can't assign that to our new leader until I can log in.

You should just quit and restart and join my alliance anyways. You know you want to :lol:


 :lol:    You know you want to join me actually.     I've tried to convince you for the past 7 months but nope you need to do it your own way.    Stubborn man.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
Hammer I don't know that we will accept your war request...but we do look forward to showing you some special care bear attention as soon as it is profitable for us to do so  :twisted:
So Babe was right you are a bunch of cowards. Running from my far superior power :twisted:

But I do like your new signature. Maybe I should try that.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: lonewolf on August 24, 2010, 04:48:41 PM
I for one spent several hrs playing yesterday...why should I have to restart? what is so hard about adding a password to my account so I can login without facebook. I sent in a ticket 20 hrs ago and it hasn't even be assign a tech to look at it! Meanwhile I can't play. I like my name I logged in under and want to keep it, so restarting is not an option. Once again BFG is not communicating with anyone.....Did they piss facebook off or what...how hard is it to clone the game and start another one...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: "Jacq"
I've tried to convince you for the past 7 months but nope you need to do it your own way.    Stubborn man.

Havent you learned yet you can not change a man :lol:
Maybe the new leader of you allaince will accept my war request. Plus then you could accept my buddie request.
War and Buddie request ??? Is that a conflit of interest??
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hawkins on August 24, 2010, 05:42:39 PM
@ Bleys if you have such a problem with "d" mode then just go and stick with extreme, no-one will miss you or your whining. Some people are still useful to their alliances even when in "d". Just because they are not useful to you is not a reason to get rid of it.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: lonewolf on August 24, 2010, 06:01:20 PM
Blue Frog Gaming Support exists! WOW...I thought they were a myth...I still haven't heard from them...ALI did they set you up with password so you could login without facebook?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:04:33 PM
He linked me this morning  :P
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: mikechi79 on August 24, 2010, 06:15:20 PM
Woo hoo!  Got a password for the site just now from support thanks to my ticket.  Great news, since all my friend invites had gone out on the account i couldnt access anymore through Facebook!  Thank you Blue Frog
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 06:29:38 PM
By completing the tutorial you'll be rank 800-900 easily  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Malice on August 24, 2010, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
By completing the tutorial you'll be rank 800-900 easily :lol:

Only put me around 2k ish  :cry:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 06:35:46 PM
Really?Oh well forget it then. :roll:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:40:05 PM
Rank updates in 20 minutes...............

Edit.......

DOT DOT DOT
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 06:40:38 PM
New achievement unlocked! You have unlocked 'Hermes Class Probe'.

LOL.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:42:30 PM
I have a surprise coming for you all in about ~20 minutes.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
The first attack?The first probe? :o
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
Could it be the first attack? There's about 20 people that are attackable, and once you subtract out yourself and me... still about eighteen potential targets.

I haven't built a probe yet, but it's unlocked.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Could it be the first attack? There's about 20 people that are attackable, and once you subtract out yourself and me... still about eighteen potential targets.

I haven't built a probe yet, but it's unlocked.


Skipping the probes for now.

All I need to know is on the leaderboard.

wait for it......
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
I'm curious... lol. Is it the first gaia? Or the first suspension? LOL!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 06:55:22 PM
Nope. Not far off though  ;)

First battle Charon? Maybe.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:02:43 PM
Nevermind. Hold Please.

Somebody didn't make it into the 100RSP bracket before the update.


BAH
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
LOL. I'm surprised with no suspensions in the top 100.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:09:07 PM
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
LOL. I'm surprised with no suspensions in the top 100.

Why's that?


Edit: was that a DP joke?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Victor Doom on August 24, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
:twisted: Wow!.. BFG is Johnny on the Spot with those anticipated announcements...  :twisted:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Athena on August 24, 2010, 07:13:58 PM
Brian . . . 42 so far . . . :)
 :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:15:41 PM
Food for thought. My RL buddy Honad Fujiwara sent me a message. He's just short of newbie protection by a few points right now. That being said. He sent me a message, where it showed me as a little (n) to him, and he shows as a big (N) to me.

Now, I've got him killed in RSP, and he has me beat in fleet slightly.

Could this be based on him being in newbie protection, or could there possibly be a new ranking system devised and in place in this universe?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
LOL. I'm surprised with no suspensions in the top 100.

I kinda am too, but having been home and online for the whole time (minus a few hours' sleep) and looking at the RSP (with myself as #6)... I don't think there's anyone who stands out as impossible. The high scores in Overall are, for the most part, people who have TONS of Crew Points, which means they probably bought androids like mad. (I did too, but only six.)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Evilhades on August 24, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
Just shut down Uni2 and add the chances to the Original game then that way you Do not Dilute the game base,  And it might attract newer Ppl.

and as for Several people Whining  how do you get Crew points? easy take a little longer to build the tech's.

Factory (level 2)
A.I. Tech (level 2)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
LOL. I'm surprised with no suspensions in the top 100.

Why's that?


Edit: was that a DP joke?

No. It's just because missions are too profitable in the very beginning. People are more tempted to cheat... and cheaters get to the top 100.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: wishmaster3 on August 24, 2010, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "wishmaster3"
LOL. I'm surprised with no suspensions in the top 100.

I kinda am too, but having been home and online for the whole time (minus a few hours' sleep) and looking at the RSP (with myself as #6)... I don't think there's anyone who stands out as impossible. The high scores in Overall are, for the most part, people who have TONS of Crew Points, which means they probably bought androids like mad. (I did too, but only six.)

The only rank that means something now is RSP (but not too much still).
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
RSP is starting to separate right now.

But, it's still a little skewed between Fleet/Defense/Infrastructure.

I kept thinking, man, I'm going to JUMP into the 1 or 2 spot in RSP, only to move 1 spot or stay still. Then I noticed where people were jumping. I find it interesting someone has 13 defenses already.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 07:37:51 PM
13 defenses is a complete waste of resources :roll: I'd rather have more atlas.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
First Attack? I can has?

(http://http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/957/o2attack.png)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
First Attack? I can has?

(http://http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/957/o2attack.png)

If it makes you feel any better (or worse), I already have your coords. :)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 07:59:50 PM
I'm just adhering to the rules. :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
I'm just adhering to the rules. :lol:

I know. I was just saying it to get you thinking. ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
I'm just adhering to the rules. :lol:

I know. I was just saying it to get you thinking. ;)

Don't mess with my Missile Battery buddy.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
I'm just adhering to the rules. :lol:

I know. I was just saying it to get you thinking. ;)

Don't mess with my Missile Battery buddy.
What a waist.... that could have gone toward a higher level mine  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 08:39:37 PM
waist?

You mean a waste?


It's no waste when you're getting attacked!!!!!


(http://http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4669/omgahhhs.png)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 08:45:50 PM
Stop and think about it.
You can fleet save all of your res, correct?
You are online during this attack, correct?
If they attack you and take out your missile battery then you are out a missile battery....

So unless you can take out their ships without losses to your own ships, then it is waste.

Remember neither side has dios yet so DF are not profitable to either of you because someone else entirely cold steal the DF while you tech up for dios.

Sorry about my spelling I am horrible at it lol.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
Quote from: "Master"
Stop and think about it.
You can fleet save all of your res, correct?
You are online during this attack, correct?
If they attack you and take out your missile battery then you are out a missile battery....

So unless you can take out their ships without losses to your own ships, then it is waist.

Remember neither side as dios yet so DF are not profitable to either of you because someone else entirely cold steal the DF while you tech up for dios.


If you think for two seconds, I don't already know that, or that I don't already know more about the mechanics of the game itself than just about everybody, short of Laggy and the Developers, you need a reality check.


There's a reason there's some attacks going already.

About a dozen pages back, you'll find that reason.

The MB is in place to assist in making sure that reason gets its answer.



Edit: It's hard to be a "know it all", if you don't know it all.  ;)  These attacks are happening in the name of science!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
Well I read the whole thing so far and the only thing I can think of is you are testing the DF percentages and defense to DF?

I also am anti defenses so I like to laugh at people for building them.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: "Master"
Well I read the whole thing so far and the only thing I can think of is you are testing the DF percentages and defense to DF?

I also am anti defenses so I like to laugh at people for building them.


Give this man a round of applesauce!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 08:55:36 PM
Course, it will probably result in debris that will be out for days.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Master"
Well I read the whole thing so far and the only thing I can think of is you are testing the DF percentages and defense to DF?

I also am anti defenses so I like to laugh at people for building them.


Give this man a round of applesauce!
When can I expect it? I am hungy right now  :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Course, it will probably result in debris that will be out for days.


Not like it's going to disappear anytime soon.

The first one to build a Dionysus will probably be someone like you, or me, or Honad.

Although, I'm going to take a step back in the next two hours with the attacks and not being able to get as many resources incoming, as well as losing two artemis :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 08:59:32 PM
Yeah. I'm teching up toward Gaia and Dio as fast as I can. Hoping to have one or the other before I have to go to work tomorrow afternoon. Don't know how realistic that is, but...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
I'm one tech from the Gaia, haven't checked on the Dio.

More important things to do right now, like build Apollo. ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: =Gideon= on August 24, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
I created an account not linked to facebook in any way and continue to not be able to access it. It seems the min I log off after creating the account it no longer allows access.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 09:27:59 PM
Perhaps you have to verify your email address before you log back into your account? I verified mine before I logged out for the first time and never had any issue like that so maybe that is something worth trying anyways...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Master"
Perhaps you have to verify your email address before you log back into your account? I verified mine before I logged out for the first time and never had any issue like that so maybe that is something worth trying anyways...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 09:35:55 PM
Not the case. Mine is unverified and I'm not having a problem. (Well, I am, but it's that the verification email never gets through to me.)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: raider007 on August 24, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: "Badrash"
And I called it.  Not the first person, but I called it.  I am glad someone told me about it in MB, or I would never have known!

The only thing BFG did wrong here, and they did it horribly wrong, was to communicate the plans and creation of the new Universe.  I mean, how many people are going to feel burned because they did not get to start the first hour like everyone else!

You guys all know that people are going to play it regardless of what you feel or dont feel.  As I have said many times, it is the race to the top that is the fun part.  The grinding just gets old.  So yes, I am going to play in the new Uni.  And yes, the Original Uni is going to take a heavy hit from this as well (in my opinion.)

I think ultimately, BFG decided that making changes to the old Uni was not beneficial for the cost required.  Everyone bitched too much about any proposed changes (like compression) because it would have ended their world.  So BFG just said - f@ck off.  People will play and pay.

Sure, you might find regular speed boring...  but people ARE going to play...

this post may be in the wrong thread and all but here's an idea instead of compression of the original uni, and a 'fix' here, why not just give everyone 1 weeks notice that they are doubling all ship speeds and halving hydro cost?  would that not have the same net effect without people screaming about 'messing up' their colony locations?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 09:56:44 PM
Congrats to honad on the first ship kill.

No debris change ladies and gents.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 10:04:34 PM
Rank     Name     Tag      Destroyed Ship Points
1    Ol' Dirty Bastards    ODB    12
2    Borg    Borg    4
3    Klingon Black Fleet    KBF    2
4    The EMPIRE    EMPIRE    1




Good luck catching ODB now, start to finish, we're not going to back down from that rank  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Congrats to honad on the first ship kill.

No debris change ladies and gents.

Dunno if it was the first ship kill, but there's now six people with destroyed ships points.

Congrats go out to:
1  BrianC  ODB  8  
2  Honad Fujiwara  Borg  4  
3  Geministar  ODB  4  
4  Lycan Overlord  KBF  1  
5  Boris Alden  KBF  1  
6  Turtle  EMPIRE  1
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Congrats to honad on the first ship kill.

No debris change ladies and gents.

Dunno if it was the first ship kill, but there's now six people with destroyed ships points.

Congrats go out to:
1  BrianC  ODB  8  
2  Honad Fujiwara  Borg  4  
3  Geministar  ODB  4  
4  Lycan Overlord  KBF  1  
5  Boris Alden  KBF  1  
6  Turtle  EMPIRE  1


Oh, he was. Trust me, I might have had something to do with it  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 10:07:21 PM
Nice work guys.    ;)

Quote from: "BrianC"
Rank     Name     Tag      Destroyed Ship Points
1    Ol' Dirty Bastards    ODB    12
2    Borg    Borg    4
3    Klingon Black Fleet    KBF    2
4    The EMPIRE    EMPIRE    1




Good luck catching ODB now, start to finish, we're not going to back down from that rank  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 24, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
And that is why I value Build point rank so much more than DS points.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
yeah I fell in RSP, from 3 to 7 I believe. That'll change.


Had to get this out of the way in the name of science.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Honad Fujiwara on August 24, 2010, 10:20:55 PM
Epic battle!

(http://http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4924847748_b0e4b23399_o.jpg)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 24, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
Finally!

New achievement unlocked! You have unlocked 'Hermes Class Probe'.And why did you suicide your artemis Brian? :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
Finally!

New achievement unlocked! You have unlocked 'Hermes Class Probe'.And why did you suicide your artemis Brian? :lol:

I think he was trying to determine if anything had changed regarding debris.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Honad Fujiwara on August 24, 2010, 10:26:29 PM
Yeah, we were looking for changes in the battle mechanics.  Best we can tell, there are none.

That was the slowest damn attack ever though.  Low level Jet is hilarious.

I tried to leave a Helios out for Brian to smash, I guess my Armor Tech was too good... haha!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 10:30:48 PM
Whatever, come get my apollos :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 24, 2010, 10:33:23 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Whatever, come get my apollos :D

Apollos, as in more than one?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
Quote from: "BrianC"
Whatever, come get my apollos :D

Apollos, as in more than one?
;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mancunia on August 24, 2010, 10:50:11 PM
You get to start from scratch and no one has a huge advantage over you if you start now.
and if you come, Join Mancunia, minimum NAPS to restrict you and an emphasis on enjoying the game and not taking it to seriously, whilst being encouraged to take an aggressive stance.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: "Mancunia"
You get to start from scratch and no one has a huge advantage over you if you start now.
and if you come, Join Mancunia, minimum NAPS to restrict you and an emphasis on enjoying the game and not taking it to seriously, whilst being encouraged to take an aggressive stance.

Lets not turn this into a recruiting thread. Because if we were I would say join MADE no NAPs and only a few wars right now. Plus a leader that is not to smart.
But I will wait until we get a Uni 2 forum to make a post like that.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 11:19:54 PM
no NASP's is definitely a good selling point there Hammer.  ;)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "Mancunia"
You get to start from scratch and no one has a huge advantage over you if you start now.
and if you come, Join Mancunia, minimum NAPS to restrict you and an emphasis on enjoying the game and not taking it to seriously, whilst being encouraged to take an aggressive stance.

Lets not turn this into a recruiting thread. Because if we were I would say join MADE no NASP and only a few wars right now. Plus a leader that is not to smart.
But I will wait until we get a Uni 2 forum to make a post like that.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hammer on August 24, 2010, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
no NASP's is definitely a good selling point there Hammer.  ;)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I said a not very smart leader  :D
I fixed it in the original post.

So did you accept my War request yet?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 11:41:58 PM
As I explained before the <3 Care Bears <3 do not believe in war just for the sake of war. Once your mighty alliance of 4 builds some ships and it becomes profitable for us to wipe you off the face of this new Uni, then we will consider accepting your declaration of War. Until then, I will have to make do with poking fun at your poor grammar and spelling.  :lol:

Quote from: "Hammer"
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
no NASP's is definitely a good selling point there Hammer.  ;)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I said a not very smart leader  :D
I fixed it in the original post.

So did you accept my War request yet?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 11:43:16 PM
Ladies, please.

Let's use this time to talk about me being the FIRST leader in Destroyed Ships in the new universe.

Will it change in the next update? Find out in 17 minutes!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
If you interrupt me again BC...I will change the topic to your CUTE LIL BUM.

Quote from: "BrianC"
Ladies, please.

Let's use this time to talk about me being the FIRST leader in Destroyed Ships in the new universe.

Will it change in the next update? Find out in 17 minutes!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 24, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
If you interrupt me again BC...I will change the topic to your CUTE LIL BUM.

Quote from: "BrianC"
Ladies, please.

Let's use this time to talk about me being the FIRST leader in Destroyed Ships in the new universe.

Will it change in the next update? Find out in 17 minutes!



 :shock:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: poeticmotion on August 24, 2010, 11:47:24 PM
If I ever leave ODB, I'm coming to Care Bears. I <3 Mona!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Mona Stangley on August 24, 2010, 11:53:17 PM
Awe shucks.  :oops:  Would love to have you  ;)

Quote from: "poeticmotion"
If I ever leave ODB, I'm coming to Care Bears. I <3 Mona!
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: StephiAnn on August 25, 2010, 12:05:34 AM
Still the Facebook version doesn't work.... and I had not set a password before the failure. I think I'm going to have to claim being one of the first inactives..... LOL!!   :cry:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 12:07:28 AM
Send in a ticket, there were at least 2 dozens players I know of, that had theirs reset already.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: StephiAnn on August 25, 2010, 12:10:58 AM
Sweet! I just checked my email and the ticket I sent yesterday has been resolved.
***woot woot***   (now where's the smiley that does the cabbage patch.... or whatever they call it j/k)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Inferno on August 25, 2010, 12:50:12 AM
Gifts are Gone!

Top Bar is from Original, and the bottom is obviously from the new Universe.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: poeticmotion on August 25, 2010, 02:56:33 AM
Quote from: "Inferno"
Gifts are Gone!

Top Bar is from Original, and the bottom is obviously from the new Universe.

Did ANYONE ever actually send/use the gifts?
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SFC expert on August 25, 2010, 02:57:11 AM
¸I did... :x
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hawkins on August 25, 2010, 03:04:27 AM
all the time. I barely ever received them though but always sent them out.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 03:23:49 AM
Sent them out daily *shrug*
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 25, 2010, 03:35:05 AM
Sent them about 5 times in the last 9-10 months.... all of which were in the first couple weeks lol.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Inferno on August 25, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
I wasn't saying "OMG Gifts are GONE!"  
Merely noting the minor change.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Dread Pirate Ragnar on August 25, 2010, 03:36:21 AM
I wonder if they just pulled the link because the game isn't working through FB anyway right now. They at least wouldn't get a bunch of support tickets about it that way.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 03:36:27 AM
I don't think anyone will miss it, to be honest.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 03:36:46 AM
Quote from: "Dread Pirate Ragnar"
I wonder if they just pulled the link because the game isn't working through FB anyway right now. They at least wouldn't get a bunch of support tickets about it that way.


Could be the case.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Inferno on August 25, 2010, 05:14:25 AM
Edit: Question Answered. Thank You.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 25, 2010, 05:24:24 AM
No they are the same but you can enlarge them by holding ctrl and scrolling with the mouse or hitting the plus symbol on the keyboard.

And the easiest way to tell that they are the same is to read the html code that makes up the page to see that both pages request the same image file from the server.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 06:03:30 AM
I take my words back earlier. UFP is beating ODB in DSP now. One man, One desire. Carrying his entire alliance.

Must be a bug. UFP doesn't attack anyone  ;)
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Kimbahlicious on August 25, 2010, 06:23:17 AM
*Sigh*  

I broke down and created an account.  SFCO will stay in d I guess.  If anything changes there, I'll toggle.

But if I STILL don't win something from that stupid a$$ lottery after playing 4 diff games, I QUIT!   :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 25, 2010, 06:33:06 AM
I won 10 arty in MB today lol. but then again that cant be hard with only 1700 players many of which are inactive....
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 07:45:11 AM
Anyone have a colony yet?

I'm not there yet, but I've had the Gaia unlocked for about an hour now.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 25, 2010, 08:05:50 AM
I have a Gaia built. It completed just before the last leaderboard update (about 10 minutes ago), which is how my RS jumped from 215-ish to 255-ish. Was going to use a slow colonization as a fleetsave.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 08:07:12 AM
I was considering doing the same thing  :lol:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 25, 2010, 08:11:00 AM
We'll have to compare notes in the morning and see who has the first colony, then.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 08:12:20 AM
you will for sure. I've still got to BUILD mine.

Congrats :D
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: BrianC on August 25, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
First Colony?

Colonized a planet 17 minutes ago.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Atryn on August 25, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
With regard to the question of "why provide advance warning" and "why not provide advance notice and reset"... I agree with the notion that its rude to punish / waste time for the folks that did get in there early.  However, if the goal was to entice (d) players over, keep in mind that many only log in once a week.  That means they may not have seen the Uni 2 notice and may choose not to participate as they are already behind.

I'm equally surprised that nothing has been posted in "Features and Updates" and no new board has been created for the new Universe (a la the Extreme and Original boards).

But, par for the course.

Atryn
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: miann on August 25, 2010, 01:17:32 PM
to add to your post how are we going to get new players if the facebook link dosnt even work.. and if it gets working later... why would new players want to join now...
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Atryn on August 25, 2010, 01:42:35 PM
I did not log in via Facebook.

I cannot see any way to invite friends for Crew points other than opening up my entire database of contacts to BFG.  Has anyone found a way around this?

I should be able to invite people one email address at a time...

Atryn
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Atryn on August 25, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
FYI to all -

Ticket #XXXXX: I did not join uni2 via facebook. I cannot find any way to i...

Your request (#XXXXX) has been deemed solved.

To review, comment and reopen the request, follow the link below:
http://starfleetcommander.zendesk.com/tickets/XXXXX (http://starfleetcommander.zendesk.com/tickets/XXXXX)


John Hunka, Aug 25 09:54 (EDT):

We do not store any information from the contact database if that is what your concern is. I will ask about the possibility of single address sending, but it is probably unlikely that a programmers would have time to add this feature.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: SGS 6 on August 25, 2010, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
First Colony?

Colonized a planet 17 minutes ago.

Beat me to it, it seems. Mine (slowed as a fleetsave) landed about 30 minutes ago.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Hawkins on August 25, 2010, 02:58:00 PM
This whole mess with facebook is why I won't invite my friends through the email system. It was easy before, but to have to give them access to my email list is not going to happen. I have family members, like my grandparents whop don't need to be getting a request I know they will ignore anyways, as well as over half my friends. So if I know they will not play why should they be getting an invite? And what every time I add someone new to my emails means that any who did not accept the first time would again have to receive another invite! If someone sent me an invite in my emails more then twice for a game I have no intent on joining I would consider that a small form of harassment. Not a major problem but I have respect for my friends and family. I'd just sooner ask the ones I know either through facebook or individual emails.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Master on August 25, 2010, 04:47:07 PM
I checked it out and it seems that after you invite someone they no longer show up as available to invite as well as any other email addresses you have listed under that name (at least for gmail)

I also requested the link from my friend that they got in their email and posted on my alliance forum in Mafia Boss and today I got my second crew member even though I never emailed anyone else. So all else fails invite yourself with a second email address to get the link and email that to individual people.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Bleys on August 25, 2010, 05:19:31 PM
Out of curiosity, what is the problem with letting them see your friends list in FB but not your e-mail list?

It doesnt auto-send to everyone in your address book, you select who you wish to send the link too, just like your friends list.

It sorta seems like "You can look in my room when I am naked, but you cant watch me take a shower, that would be horrible!"

I think e-mail is far less effective than direct contact on a social network would be. I dont open crap like this when I get it, lol.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Daven on August 25, 2010, 05:22:52 PM
Giving e-mail address of friends means that they can be targeted for SPAM

While I don't know if BFG sells, trades, or "loans" e-mail lists out - so many others do that as a matter of courtesy to my friends - I never give out their e-mail addresses for any reason without their permission.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: jonais on August 25, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: "Daven"
Giving e-mail address of friends means that they can be targeted for SPAM

While I don't know if BFG sells, trades, or "loans" e-mail lists out - so many others do that as a matter of courtesy to my friends - I never give out their e-mail addresses for any reason without their permission.

/agree

I'm taking the route of just sending the link to the people that I want to invite... Like everyone from my alliance in Universe 1  :twisted:
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Captain Commander on August 25, 2010, 07:24:20 PM
I started a little late but have jumped 3000 in rank.  I got skillz.  Went from the 5000s to 2000s.  I just unlocked atlas and have AI 2.  I can raid both unguarded ore and crystal mines at the same time now.
Title: Re: new uni ??? :)
Post by: Ptonjalken on August 25, 2010, 07:26:32 PM
Going to close this blob of a thread.

For any of the various discussions / unsolved problems occurring in this post (please no more FB playing posts, Matt posted that they are aware of it), create a new thread in the Universe 2 section.

Locked