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Starfleet Commander => Universe 2 => Topic started by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 04:22:11 PM

Title: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 04:22:11 PM
Is there some sort of time-frame for this "turn yourself in now" thing BGF is doing? I mean, they have names, right? Why isnt action being taken? I would like to know who in my alliance they "caught" cheating.

Time to reset em Matt. Lets see who was using those BOTs. I dont really see any valid reason to delay it further.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: 2$Bill on October 05, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
I don't think they can stop the bots.  They crawl all over the forums, Google [Bot] Has taken over Mafiaboss, You can't even PM any of them but they can send you the most disturbing messages!  If you ask me, BFG is outgunned by the indexing power of these malicious programs.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: raider007 on October 05, 2010, 06:51:19 PM
Let me preface this post with the comment:
I don't know squat about computers and websites and programming whatnot, but i do know when I smell BS.

I don't think BFG has had anywhere near enough time to subpoena IP's of visitors to code_B's 'secret' website.  Someone within PROFIT, or with firsthand knowledge MAY have ratted out the fact about the cheaters, (loose lips do SINK ships after all) but i don't think BFG can actually  detect them, certainly not without help from the websites service provider; ie the IPs of the visitors or down loaders of that code. Also, that would mean that the cheaters who had the scripts skyped or emailed to them directly wouldn't have a trail for BFG to follow either...
Now, I suppose IF BFG 'knows' what to look for, they could prolly catch anyone  dumb enough to still be using them but....

Unfortunately, I suspect these kinds of cheats have been around for sometime...someone with the skills of CodeB, but much smarter in that they kept them closely held....

I smell the whole ULTIMATUM or 'grace period' to 'turn yourself in' thing as one big bluff.  Don't get me wrong, I think the notification cheat and mission cheats have been going on for some time, but it seems to me if BFG had, you know, ACTUAL actionable intelligence on these matters these cheaters would have definitely been suspended already.

I'm guessing BFG is trying to get IP's of visitors to the secret site, and trying to put together enough evidence, but I smell a total bluff here....

Very unfortunate, because this whole situation is going to be (has already been) VERY detrimental to BFG's bottom line....
I mean really, why buy credits at all if the game makers cant police cheating? Why would I wanna do that? (slaps forehead) I mean really?

If they have PROOF, drop the perma bans, post haste like yesturday...

Many are waiting to see how this shakes out. i for one have already invested a few bucks in credits, and am still playing both uni1 and uni2, but if I don't see some kind of concrete action taken, well I wont drop another penny on this game and just move on to something else... i would assume many players feel the same way...

So, can someone with more interwebs knowledge please correct me if my assumptions are incorrect here?
Thanksk
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Hawkins on October 05, 2010, 08:33:39 PM
Personally I hope they are not bluffing and do have some proof. For that matter if they do they should scrape the grace period and perma-ban them all. That includes any that turn themselves in. They should not be able to cheat and get away with it, which they are right now.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: "Hawkins"
Personally I hope they are not bluffing and do have some proof. For that matter if they do they should scrape the grace period and perma-ban them all. That includes any that turn themselves in. They should not be able to cheat and get away with it, which they are right now.
I do too Hawk, because if they dont, then they called us out.

Most here know me, know how I feel about even minor infractions of cheating. Is there a single person that thinks I would allow this sort of thing inside my alliance openly? Code didnt PM me the address of the BOTs for good reason, we have known each other a long time and my attitude about cheating is widely known. I bitched in Empire Chat constantly while I was a member about taking advantage of certain "sorta legal but not Fair Play" things. It wasnt until I was well gone that the situation there deteriorated into its current state of constant suspicion.

Laggy just made a post in another thread that seems to indicate they have a pretty solid way of tracking a player who used those scripts. I hope its true. I want to see these players punished, and I want to know who they are so I can have them booted from the Bears.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: bryn987 on October 05, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
I think it's a bluff too and felt that the second they were asked to turn themselves in.  Then again, why would they say they knew Profit was accessing that site if they didnt know?  Unless the ISP gave them all the IP addresses and then BFG matched them up?

I cant' see any ISP turning over IP addresses without a court order and that would take a bit of time I would think
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Victor Doom on October 05, 2010, 08:55:48 PM
:twisted: www.whogivesacrap.com (http://www.whogivesacrap.com)
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: raider007 on October 05, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: "bryn987"
I think it's a bluff too and felt that the second they were asked to turn themselves in.  Then again, why would they say they knew Profit was accessing that site if they didnt know?  Unless the ISP gave them all the IP addresses and then BFG matched them up?

I cant' see any ISP turning over IP addresses without a court order and that would take a bit of time I would think
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thats my point EXACTLY. Unfortunately, I've been involved w/the legal once or twice.  :oops: There is no way they've gotten a court order already, even if BFG started the process from day 1 of uni2.

I'd REALLY like to see some punishment meeted out here.
I dare say, that it I also would like for the poor saps who had their ships smashed by the cheaters made whole too.

(Its not really fair to 'only' suspend the cheaters for a few days is it? They still get to profit -(excuse the pun) from their deeds anyway; be it in undeserved fleet, bigger mines, better techs etc)

All that res should go back to the guys who really earned it and lost it  (If they keep not fleetsaving-? well Others will smash and grab it anyway..)
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
There is no question we accessed hackstarfleet.com, that is where he had the new Galaxy Search tool, which we were beta testing, or so I thought. Allegedly, the bots were also on that site somewhere, and I believe that.

Its not a direct line though. I never saw any bot links, but I didnt pay attention. I used the search, it seems hit and miss, was trying to help perfect it, but then the shit hit the fan. That was linked on our internal boards. So accessing hackstarfleet isnt a certain way to sort who was cheating. It could be part of some circumstantial case, along with certian in-game behavior, or something, I have no idea, and I dont really care HOW they catch em, I just want em caught and out.

If it turns out they were bluffing, though, I am not going to be all too happy about it.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: raider007 on October 05, 2010, 09:08:35 PM
^meant to say legal system...
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Privacy on October 05, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: "Phil Sutherland"
Will probably get Perm. Banned from the forums for this and maybe even the game.
This is the full story:
So weeks ago Code decides to play a joke that was to far. He was perm. banned from the forum, which was probably fair.
Code has been playing account by a different name in extreme for a while now. A few days ago he decides to change his name back to Codename_B. He then submits a bug report this is what follows:

Codename_B:
Service Unavailable
This server is temporarily unable to service requests.(Internal-Reason: 132)

This is the message I get when I try to access my playstarfleetextreme account.

This happens periodically every few hours for an hour at a time. I'm
just lucky I haven't lost my fleet.

Should I stick my account in (v) till you guys get this fixed or will
you be able to refund any lost fleet due to this server glitch?
Thanks,

Ben

Matt:
What's your account name? Do you have this problem on other universes?

Codename_B:

codename_B in extreme. #148 as of time of writing.

I've seen the problem occur in uni2 where I'm the666bear, but far less
frequently.

It was pretty bad in extreme today though, I was convinced I was going
to lose my Heph. Thank goodness lady luck was on my side!

Thanks for your response,

B


Matt:
Great thanks for letting me know. I've been meaning to ban you since
discovering the bot you wrote. It would have been harder to figure out
who it was if you didn't host it on the same server as your other
site.

Next what will happen is my lawyers will investigate whether a lawsuit
is useful. Your bot isn't illegal but the webpage is since it clearly
violates our intellectual property. Most likely your entire net worth
is less than the legal fees would be, but if not it's going to get
really fun.

It will start when they contact your hosting company and get them to
turn over your info.

Enjoy.



Poof Banned in both Universes. That was playing dirty if you ask me. Tricking him into giving up both Universe names.

If your with us Change your Signature to what I have.


Based on that I would say they have no way to tie anything to individual accounts.  They couldn't even ban Codename_b until he told them who he was.  If anything their best shot at finding people is to look at their mission usage and find automation patterns, which I'm guessing they already did.  Beyond that, I doubt much else will happen unless the people confessed.  I never saw his site, so  I have no idea what was on it, but I bet they're not going to pursue this all the way through the legal system.  Maybe a letter from their lawyer telling him to cease and desist or else, but not much beyond that (if even that since it's down now).
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Mona Stangley on October 05, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
I have remained largely quiet regarding this matter for a variety reasons, but feel the need to say a couple things.

First I just want to acknowledge that I understand the outrage from the community. I love this game and am personally invested in it on many levels. I have spent more hours then I care to admit in-game, and on these forums, and I don't want to see it destroyed by hacks and cheats. But until BFG identifies members of my alliance as cheating I am giving them all the benefit of doubt. This public persecution of my members without any proof of wrongdoing is B.S. and more then dissapointing.

As far as I am concerned the only thing The Care Bears are guilty of at this point is being in the same alliance as Coder. I let him in, and I didn't kick him out when I realized he was more trouble for us then not. I did not take him seriously when he posted his "joke" bot site here on the forums. Code did so many good things for this community and I let it cloud my judgement. So that blame goes to me, and me alone. I don't remember reading in the TOS that you can't have assholes in your alliance, but hey, I didn't read all the fine print so maybe I missed something. Anyway...chances are your alliance is guilty of having an asshole in it too.

Personally I think all this finger pointing and in-game harrassment says alot more about the state of this "community" then it does about my alliance. I only hope BFG is listening :(
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 10:05:54 PM
Well the legal thing is sort of funny, seeing as they stole the "intellectual property" of the game itself from another company, nearly word for word, certainly equation for equation. The only thing that saved them, I think, is that GameForge is based in Germany. Code lives in England, so the threat is even more laughable.

Now, I could care less, BFG has done a reasonable job trying to make their own "version" of the game, so the plagiarism is less and less applicable in my mind, but I am sure Codes lawyer could leverage it if it came down to it.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Justin Coles 928543 on October 05, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
@ mona

i don't really know you, and vice versa, i have seen you on the boards plenty over the last 12 months, i have seen what work you do in all the games/uni's that you play....... and i have seen how you play, and i like it :)

my opinion is that nobody should be acting up the way they are.....yes, while i am out at work, and busy looking after my kids, (as with many others) some people are progressing by botting and cheating..... but not everyone

i am not in any of you alliances, and do not condone the actions of the FEW, for this community to be giving detrimental, abusive and harrassing behaviour and comments to the MANY....

i am more than happy enough to sit and watch and read and listen to what is happening rather than through more accusations etc, thats just not what a friendly community should be doing....

in my eyes whats going on here with everybody bashing the entire carebear alliance is just as bad as a FEW of their members getting caught out doing what they are doing
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personally, i think a number of you ghave stated clearly, not only do you wish for these players to be punished, but named and shamed also.....
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Inferno on October 05, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
I have remained largely quiet regarding this matter for a variety reasons, but feel the need to say a couple things.

First I just want to acknowledge that I understand the outrage from the community. I love this game and am personally invested in it on many levels. I have spent more hours then I care to admit in-game, and on these forums, and I don't want to see it destroyed by hacks and cheats. But until BFG identifies members of my alliance as cheating I am giving them all the benefit of doubt. This public persecution of my members without any proof of wrongdoing is B.S. and more then dissapointing.

As far as I am concerned the only thing The Care Bears are guilty of at this point is being in the same alliance as Coder. I let him in, and I didn't kick him out when I realized he was more trouble for us then not. I did not take him seriously when he posted his "joke" bot site here on the forums. Code did so many good things for this community and I let it cloud my judgement. So that blame goes to me, and me alone. I don't remember reading in the TOS that you can't have assholes in your alliance, but hey, I didn't read all the fine print so maybe I missed something. Anyway...chances are your alliance is guilty of having an asshole in it too.

Personally I think all this finger pointing and in-game harrassment says alot more about the state of this "community" then it does about my alliance. I only hope BFG is listening :(


Rules against Assholes? Oh God, we better just disband our Alliance now. We have absolutely no chance of being in compliance.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: renykeny on October 05, 2010, 10:21:29 PM
shit!!!..thats why mona wouldnt let me into carebears when i applied!!!
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Albert on October 05, 2010, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: "renykeny"
shit!!!..thats why mona wouldnt let me into carebears when i applied!!!

no. she didn't let you in b/c you're a huge n00b  :lol:
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: renykeny on October 05, 2010, 10:31:09 PM
lol!!!hi buddy!!!..i am THE noob to YOU!!!
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 10:31:56 PM
Mona, I am 100% behind you, and, in fact, I am trying to spearhead this ... well in our perception, wrongful persecution thing to try to keep you as stress free as possible. One thing code didnt think through was the affect it would end up having on us.

And I will say, for the record, I would trust code with my log-in info as an account-sitter (something OG also allows). Code malicious behavior isnt directed at the individual players, his continued support of SFC Stats after being banned from the boards demonstrates that he SUPPORTS the players. His beef is with BFG. He didnt steal your passwords or even launch a "real" DDoS on BFG. He could if he wanted too. He used his tools to try to spam something a vast majority of the player community thinks blows frogs, their support system. I actually chuckled a bit when I realized what the script he stuck in would do. Yeah, it was wrong and if he had ask me "should I?" I would have said "dont you funing DARE man! It will mess up the PLAYERS". Mighta kept him from doing it too, but he didnt ask. He is/was pissed.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Albert on October 05, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
lol. hi ken. lol.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: meowyeah on October 05, 2010, 10:33:52 PM
i think its one of the funniest things in sfc history
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: meowyeah on October 05, 2010, 10:36:50 PM
jason is now claiming that if you run the galaxy parser "an ap on sfcstats" it "disrupts their servers"

i am confirming if hes confusing the spam bot with the "stand-alone app"

=P

oh i love my ticket convos
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Inferno on October 05, 2010, 10:41:11 PM
How long has sfc stats been in existence? How come it never "disrupted" their servers before?
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: meowyeah on October 05, 2010, 10:43:44 PM
code made cheats
they banned code
code revenged
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: tuhis on October 05, 2010, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Code lives in England, so the threat is even more laughable.

If I may pick at this nit, going to where he lives and claiming you're in England would get you beaten by angry Scots. All of Great Britain isn't England.

And I think all he wants is attention, and we've succesfully given him lots of that now.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 10:55:31 PM
My sincerest apologies to all non-England UK residents for that misrepresentation.

All 8 of my great-grandparents were born in Ireland, so I should be more aware of the distinctions.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: renykeny on October 05, 2010, 11:01:10 PM
shit dude..its alright, my relatives were from england...they owned a few irish!!!
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Satok on October 05, 2010, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
I have remained largely quiet regarding this matter for a variety reasons, but feel the need to say a couple things.

First I just want to acknowledge that I understand the outrage from the community. I love this game and am personally invested in it on many levels. I have spent more hours then I care to admit in-game, and on these forums, and I don't want to see it destroyed by hacks and cheats. But until BFG identifies members of my alliance as cheating I am giving them all the benefit of doubt. This public persecution of my members without any proof of wrongdoing is B.S. and more then dissapointing.

As far as I am concerned the only thing The Care Bears are guilty of at this point is being in the same alliance as Coder. I let him in, and I didn't kick him out when I realized he was more trouble for us then not. I did not take him seriously when he posted his "joke" bot site here on the forums. Code did so many good things for this community and I let it cloud my judgement. So that blame goes to me, and me alone. I don't remember reading in the TOS that you can't have assholes in your alliance, but hey, I didn't read all the fine print so maybe I missed something. Anyway...chances are your alliance is guilty of having an asshole in it too.

Personally I think all this finger pointing and in-game harrassment says alot more about the state of this "community" then it does about my alliance. I only hope BFG is listening :(


Dear Lord I hope there is no rule about allowing assholes in your alliance!!


I agree there is no need to "punish" an entire alliance for the actions of one and maybe a few more. I would love to see a complete and certified list of who was cheating and see them reset or banned. The rest, if they were even aware of the cheating then they should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 05, 2010, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: "Satok"
The rest, if they were even aware of the cheating then they should be ashamed of themselves.
I agree with you Satok, but I am telling you based on my pretty solid examination of the situation, the majority of Bears did not know the BOTs were there, or, if they did get a PM, didnt take it seriously enough.

I would have stopped code if he had told me. He knows it too. I am 100% positive he would confirm that if he could post here. He snuck it around behind Mona and me. I am not mad, TBH, I have known code longer than any other player in this game.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Satok on October 05, 2010, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: "Bleys"
Quote from: "Satok"
The rest, if they were even aware of the cheating then they should be ashamed of themselves.
I agree with you Satok, but I am telling you based on my pretty solid examination of the situation, the majority of Bears did not know the BOTs were there, or, if they did get a PM, didnt take it seriously enough.

I would have stopped code if he had told me. He knows it too. I am 100% positive he would confirm that if he could post here. He snuck it around behind Mona and me. I am not mad, TBH, I have known code longer than any other player in this game.


We have had our ups and downs, Bleys, but of all the people on here, you are near the bottom of my list of possible cheaters. I believe you on that one. It is very easy to see the rampant slaughter and destruction being comitted by a top alliance and assume they must be cheating. I do not think like that. I have been in top "alliances" in other games and know how much work is put into it. I only wish I still had the stamina and time I had in my youth!!
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Kimbahlicious on October 05, 2010, 11:19:14 PM
My $.02, just because I can...

I don't recall a large amount of the community complaining that ALL of Profit was cheating.  Maybe 1 or 2 morons that need to work on their reading comprehension skills, but for the most part, we've all agreed that this was an unfortunate incident that some players that were limited to one alliance were the perps.

With that said, I applaud BFG for giving people a chance to turn themselves in. (But, they should have given a specific deadline which would prevent these types of questions). If you guys may recall, the shipyard fiasco ended up with a lot of players suspended until they could sort out who cheated and who didn't.  Then, people that were just following instructions from their officers or leaders (Hey, enter this in a negative # and see what happens and then got hosed with a reset instead of a partial reset. We lost a lot of players because of that fiasco.) Would you prefer they suspended the entire alliance and then sorted it out? NO.  What if someone had downloaded the program, ran it and found out what it was and then removed it? Should they get the same punishment as someone that used it from the time they downloaded it?  At least this time, BFG is trying to be fair with partial resets instead of completely resetting everyone and attempting to keep players around.

Mona - I also applaud you for keeping quiet during all of this.  You've done the right thing.  It's out of your hands, just let BFG do what needs to be done on their end and you just keep smashing ships.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Hawkins on October 06, 2010, 12:02:18 AM
I agree that Care bears is not all cheaters but I am willing to bet there are a few. Whether it be multi-account players or bot users or whatever else is out there, but then I am sure every alliance that gets too large has the same problem. I would like to know who the cheaters are but all of profit, not a chance. I have only ever tangled with one member of Profit and I know by the comment I got from him that they are a solid bunch, well that and the tone of the members on the forum. Like Mona and quite a few others. I don't think that everyone in Profit should be suspended and I am glad that they were not at the same time.

Mona don't blame yourself for the flak that others are bring at the Care Bears, most of us thought that Code was a cool guy. For a while he was but then his whole conflict with BFG happened and now this. Could any of us have known that he would actually go this far, NO, not unless someone was told in private.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 06, 2010, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: "Satok"
We have had our ups and downs, Bleys, but of all the people on here, you are near the bottom of my list of possible cheaters. I believe you on that one.
Heh, I think you would be surprised how much we agree, FAR more than we disagree man. I argue for the sake of the debate quite often, and in such a situation, you MUST be passionate about your position, even if you dont actually feel so committed to it. I dont do it a lot, but there are quite a few such situations in this game, with legitimate positions on both sides.

As for my integrity, remember, and yeah, here I go, but I have been fleetsaving off 8 planets every day for the past 5 years, other than the year or so I took off playing Civ IV:BTS. Cheaters dont play like that. My rep in OG is beyond reproach. I still consider 90% of SFC nubs, so whatever with what they think. I know how I play, and those who have actually been with me in chat/skype know me very well.

BTW I can consistently beat Emperor Mode in Civ IV, and average 50-50 on Immortal, mostly because I refuse to "cheat" and reload huts and battles, lol.

We are more alike than different Satok. That goes for a number of regulars on this board that I regularly debate with, actually.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Master on October 06, 2010, 02:20:02 AM
I cant finish a game of civ IV unless it is on an easier mode since the memory leak renders my laptop useless before I can finish the game when it goes on longer lol.

Bleys are you saying that you have known code longer than when you started sfc? or are you just stating that you met him and have been talking to him since around when x started? Just curouse since I used to talk to code a lot at the begining of x between attacks on each other and I tried to help support his sfcstats site as far as posting battle reports and what not and even posted most of my hits exclesivily on those forums after making a custom battle report converter to go along with the ship "smilies" that he added to his forums. Mostly lost touch when he quit x though and I actually landed in system of him and looking now I see his heph was the one that I went to that system to hunt since it was moving when I launched and landed there. Talked for a few minutes after probing him then he stopped responding that night and I later saw he was suspended....
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Chris Majeski on October 06, 2010, 05:59:55 AM
but take note that profit has been quiet on the boards ....why ? guilt maybe? who knows , all I know is its a shame, I liked codename_b until all this bullshit
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Inferno on October 06, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
Quote from: "Chris Majeski"
but take note that profit has been quiet on the boards ....why ? guilt maybe? who knows , all I know is its a shame, I liked codename_b until all this bullshit


Perhaps it is because everyone has told us to STFU until things are hashed out?

Perhaps you should take the same advice?

Check the leader boards. Look up every single member of PROFIT.  won't find any (s) notations.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: RedParrot on October 06, 2010, 07:23:03 AM
Quote
but then I am sure every alliance that gets too large has the same problem.

28 members is too large?
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Chris Majeski on October 06, 2010, 07:34:45 AM
Quote from: "Inferno"
Quote from: "Chris Majeski"
but take note that profit has been quiet on the boards ....why ? guilt maybe? who knows , all I know is its a shame, I liked codename_b until all this bullshit


Perhaps it is because everyone has told us to STFU until things are hashed out?

Yes maybe but they don't even defend themselves or offer an explanation to their side?

Perhaps you should take the same advice?
Um no you stfu I'm allowed to state an opinion and question as i please a punk kid like you needs to look between the lines on what im saying everyone else has,

Check the leader boards. Look up every single member of PROFIT.  won't find any (s)
No shit dumbass, Im well aware of the boards, and its already been established on the boards
notations.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Inferno on October 06, 2010, 07:56:54 AM
Quote from: "Chris Majeski"
Quote from: "Inferno"
Quote from: "Chris Majeski"
but take note that profit has been quiet on the boards ....why ? guilt maybe? who knows , all I know is its a shame, I liked codename_b until all this bullshit


Perhaps it is because everyone has told us to STFU until things are hashed out?

Yes maybe but they don't even defend themselves or offer an explanation to their side?

Perhaps you should take the same advice?
Um no you stfu I'm allowed to state an opinion and question as i please a punk kid like you needs to look between the lines on what im saying everyone else has,

Check the leader boards. Look up every single member of PROFIT.  won't find any (s)
No shit dumbass, Im well aware of the boards, and its already been established on the boards
notations.


Explanations have been offered. Obviously they were too hard for you too read. We have been told by the community that explanations won't be accepted right now, because they only look like bravado and back stepping.
So, we shut out our mouths, as requested.
and now we have to deal with your bullshit of laying guilt for doing as asked?

Punk Kid? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Kimbahlicious on October 06, 2010, 09:02:35 AM
Quote from: "Kimbahlicious"
Mona - I also applaud you for keeping quiet during all of this.  You've done the right thing.  It's out of your hands, just let BFG do what needs to be done on their end and you just keep smashing ships.

Quote from: "Chris Majeski"
but take note that profit has been quiet on the boards ....why ? guilt maybe? who knows , all I know is its a shame, I liked codename_b until all this bullshit

Maybe if you'd read just a few posts ahead of yours, you may have seen my post?  I mean really...do you know how hard it is to keep Mona quiet, like EVER?   ;)

If you'd read the global announcement threads, you would have seen many people begging them to stay quiet so they wouldn't look guilty because most of us suspected it wasn't all of Profit.  Ever hear the term "The guilty dog barks the loudest"?
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Satok on October 06, 2010, 12:14:48 PM
Guilty dog barks the loudest? I like that. And Majeski IS a guilty dog. I spank him all the time.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Bleys on October 06, 2010, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: "Master"
Bleys are you saying that you have known code longer than when you started sfc? or are you just stating that you met him and have been talking to him since around when x started?
I met him at the start of X as well.
Title: Re: So far no (s) or account re-sets in Care Bears
Post by: Laggynate on October 06, 2010, 04:38:01 PM
I spoke to Matt and the person they normally have work on this type of thing is tied up currently (hence the grace period). It might be up to a week before they can go back and review things. Until then this is just senseless speculation and a witch hunt.