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Starfleet Commander => Original Universe => Topic started by: Kaork on May 17, 2012, 04:14:59 AM

Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 17, 2012, 04:14:59 AM
Time War Request Update:

So The Dark Sphere through a monkey wrench in Times plans today.  I thought you might all like a good read.  I also would like to ask that you send this to all your friends if you chose.  I will also be posting this on the forums when my time allows no pun intended.

We gave the leader of Time the proposition to accept the war request based on the votes taken to War with Time was a yes.  However something they weren’t planning on is we also took a vote to war with little time.  So the Terms we presented was that We would accept the war if little time (minuteman) accepted the War with us.  It was declined by both the Leader of Time and the leader of little time.  I will Post the funny messages below.  The short version is the Leader of Big Time states he has no control over little time and what they due.  Yet this morning little time had 180 players in it and now has 115.  For someone not to have any control over the other alliance you they sure to swap out enough.  They must think we are all stupid and don’t all know you are all one big alliance.  I have watched a friends have swap from Big Time to little time all the time over the past year.  Again no pun intended.  And you say that its just a training alliance.  ROFLMAO.   I have war’d with Time in the past and they used the same escuse and then I watched as they hide there members in little time while still picking on our little guys to win the war.  This was all before war points were even en-volved.  Well not this time Time.  We will target little Time just like we will target you as long as you are targeting us weather the official war is official or not, consider we are at War with both of you.  I Suggest they save Face and just accept on our terms as they have Badgered, Harassed, Bullied, and now begged for this war.   I have gotten emails from the leader telling me to “put up or shut-up” and put up with planet names calling us Cowards.  To Henrietta saying how is going to mop the floor with my alliance and single handedly take it out and cause it to rip into little pieces.  WE are ready to stand in War on two fronts against Over a 300 man Ranke #1 by over nearly 100,000 points over the #2 and the #37 70,000 points as rank 17 alliances and you want to run and hide your members under another alliance name so you have the benefit of winning easily?  Your #1, you have all the advantage you need.     WHO IS THE COWARD I ASK? 
Here are the FACTS:
1   Time Wasters  Time  518,506,780 
17   Dark Sphere of Omega 4000  Ω 4K  130,843,715 
37   Minutemen  time  69,601,948 

There is nearly 400,000 points between us and TIME.  There are less than 61,000 between us and current little time.  Little time is closer in rank even after losing some 60 members today than we are to Big TIME by a long shot and we aren’t scare of Big Time.  Get your alliances in check and lets do this.
I would love nothing more than to see 10 alliances submit request the same way I have for war with both of these alliances.  I’m sick and Tired of them playing under this curtain and then calling us COWARDS.   
Little time will have another war request from us tomorrow morning.
‘Remember it’s just a GAME’
It’s TIME to GROW a SET already and let’s get it on!!!!! 



Emails:
 
 Elnino  re: Greetings  1 day ago 
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-15 17:21:49 UTC
I thought you only communicated by mass messages and that your unfounded allegations against one of my officers was a declaration of war on my alliance. Either put up or shut up.
Have you called in the FBI yet? Maybe Mulder and Scully are available :)

Kaork  War Terms  about 6 hours ago 
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 21:45:32 UTC
Time to 'put up or shutup'
I have sent a war request to little time with the same below terms. If accepted then I will send you a war request with the following terms:
1mil in res. no Inactives. No dmode percentage
Let's get it on.
K
   Elnino  re: War Terms  about 6 hours ago 
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-16 22:24:10 UTC
Our training alliance has never and will never get involved in wars because they are purely a training alliance. The rest of your terms are acceptable for Time Wasters.
Send a new war request to me if you are agreeable to those terms.
May the best alliance win.
El
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Kaork    re: War Terms    about 6 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:26:17 UTC
The terms have been provided.. There will be no hiding.. either they train in production or you bow out of the war with us.. Simple as that.

Kaork    re: War Terms    about 5 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:45:08 UTC
So here we sit.. at a impass.. You forcing me to do something I don't want to do and me forcing you to decide on doing something you don't want to do to get what you want.

Here is the reality.

You will target me anyway.. And we will target you and little time anyway. Lets go ahead and make this official in all areas.

The way I see it you have two choices as I have put the ball in your court:

1. Accept the terms and have little time accept the terms. They are a very well ranked alliance and actually alot closer in points to us then we are to you.

2. Or We all lose face while this becomes a laughing stock cause you know I won't be quiet about it and it will be blasted all over the uni and forums.

Let me know your thoughts.


 Elnino  re: War Terms  about 5 hours ago 
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-16 22:51:58 UTC
MM have their own leader and officers and I don't make decisions for them. Since they were founded they have had a policy of not getting involved in wars.
The cutoff between us and MM is 5k in rank. To level the playing field, as you don't have a training alliance, I am proposing that players ranked worse than 5k can not be hit by either side. That is my final offer.
El 

Kaork  re: War Terms  about 5 hours ago 
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:57:27 UTC
I don't trust that.. Its all or nothing mate, the TERMS stand as they are.. You have no leg to stand on. You want this, I was harassed and then begged for it. Come get it, the cookie is on the table.
As I know you are lying and you have full control over what goes on over there... I will not allow you to filter your members through during this. I have played that game once before with your alliance I wont do it again. In the misc we will be fighting agains over 300 people and two front war against two alliance. Think this is the best for a newly formed alliance that is still trying to learn each other? Nope but I aints got no choice do I. It was either go to War or allow your members to continue bulling mine.
Your turn to put up or shut up mate. I await your answer.. You have 24 hours before I blast this across the community for you to try and clean up.
Kaork
Dark Sphere. 





From the leader of little time:
   Reavers Band  re: War request  about 4 hours ago 
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-17 00:20:53 UTC
No thanks, we are a training alliance. We do not accept war requests. 

   Kaork    re: War request    57 minutes ago
To: Reavers Band
Date: 2012-05-17 03:11:19 UTC
If Time wants a war with us then there training alliance is going to war with us. Your closer in rank to us then we are to them. You can let your boss know I sent this. If Time is targeting us we are going to target you. Futher more so is the rest of the uni


   Reavers Band  re: War request  27 minutes ago 
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-17 03:41:12 UTC
Attacking members of Minutemen (time) will not help you in a war with Time Wasters (Time). Members of Minutemen cannot help Time Wasters in a war with you. Targeting us will be futile and result in wasted time and resources.
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Kaork    re: War request    15 minutes ago
To: Reavers Band
Date: 2012-05-17 03:54:16 UTC
No sir, you have a mis understanding. What you call time wasted and futile, I call filling up my dios.

I'm sure you will get the news letter... just wait for it to post.

Kaork
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: zogato on May 17, 2012, 07:35:51 AM
I see no battle report here. Fight on :o
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 17, 2012, 07:44:55 AM
how did i miss this zogato. lol. thanks for that. yes where is the battle report. i think u should move ur post out of the battle report
Title: Time / 4000 hostilities
Post by: TomL on May 17, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
As Kaork is apparently unable to use a forum correctly, I will repost what he put here and reply to specific section in red text.

Henrietta - Time
Kaork - 4000

Time War Request Update:

So The Dark Sphere through a monkey wrench in Times plans today. [may I ask how you have thrown a monkey wrench in our plans?]  I thought you might all like a good read.  I also would like to ask that you send this to all your friends if you chose [Are you unable to fight wars yourself and find yourself deperately trying to recruit your friends into the 4000?].  I will also be posting this on the forums when my time allows no pun intended. [Its a shame you could not post correctly.]

We gave the leader of Time the proposition to accept the war request based on the votes taken to War with Time was a yes. HUZZAHHH!  However something they weren’t planning on is we also took a vote to war with little time.  So the Terms we presented was that We would accept the war if little time (minuteman) accepted the War with us.  It was declined by both the Leader of Time and the leader of little time. [It is quite right that they both declined this. MM always has and always will not go to war.]  I will Post the funny messages below.  The short version is the Leader of Big Time states he has no control over little time and what they due. [This is correct. MM are not our slaves, they are their own alliance. They make their own policies, they control their own membership and have their own diplomacy. Yes they are part of the Time family but that only exsists in as much as the name and that they pass players over to us once trained.]  Yet this morning little time had 180 players in it and now has 115 [I call your bluff, you are preaching figures that you have pulled out of your backside. Membership numbers like that have not been around since 2010.].  For someone not to have any control over the other alliance you they sure to swap out enough [Yes, we do exchange officers. Once a week a few from Time go to MM and a few from MM go to Time. However, once war is declared this would stop. Effectively Time's membership would be frozen. ].  They must think we are all stupid and don’t all know you are all one big alliance.  I have watched a friends have swap from Big Time to little time all the time over the past year [I imgaine they swapped for one of the officer swaps.].  Again no pun intended.  And you say that its just a training alliance.  ROFLMAO [If you do not think its a training alliance then what do you imagine that it is?].   I have war’d with Time in the past and they used the same escuse and then I watched as they hide there members in little time while still picking on our little guys to win the war[I was not in Time during that conflict, however I can assure you that nobody will be swapping tags during the war.].  This was all before war points were even en-volved [Seriously, I know that I suck at spelling, but is this guy getting on your nerves now?].  Well not this time Time.  We will target little Time just like we will target you as long as you are targeting us weather the official war is official or not, consider we are at War with both of you [Read into that as "We know that we talked the talk and now that its been brought we realised that we can't do much to you so we need to find an alliance of less than 5000 rankers to bash."].  I Suggest they save Face and just accept on our terms as they have Badgered, Harassed, Bullied, and now begged for this war. [Woahhhh hold your horses. Badgered, I accept. Harassed and Bullied I do not. Please remind me again Kaork, who has recieved 2 warnings for harassment in the last 2 weeks? While at the same time sending out a mass PM (Very careless I might add) which was full of nothing but lies that you put together from a mixture of misinformation and delusion. How many warnings for harassment have I had? 0 thats right, even after you ticket BFG with your ludicrous hacking claims. Who is harassing who?

Im sorry but I must insert a paragraph here, you see thats how you use punctuation. Now for the bullying claim. I do not deny that I have been targetting 4000, but I ask you for proof that I have been bullying. I have NEVER hammered the 4000 to the point of quitting. Whenever I have hit the likes of Rambo etc I have always let them rebuild a fleet.

I have even accepted buddy requests from 4000 members who felt like they couldnt handle me, most recet example of Bartanack. He was at the point of uitting the game, that is never what I would want so I accepted his buddy request and backed off from him to allow him to learn the game a little more.]

 I have gotten emails from the leader telling me to “put up or shut-up” and put up with planet names calling us Cowards [So are you telling me that you are also not playing with planet names? Yourself, James, Rogan and Coma? Pot. Kettle. Black.].  To Henrietta saying how is going to mop the floor with my alliance and single handedly take it out [I said this? I never said single handedly.]and cause it to rip into little pieces. [Looks like we do not need to rip it to pieces, your membership is already fragile and you have multiple members who were not happy at your merger who are considering leaving 4000 to reform the old 4000. Seems they do not like having a hot headed, egotistical manian for a leader. They are used to someone who is able to keep their composure and understand strategy. ]  WE are ready to stand in War on two fronts [Sorry but its not going to happen. You were quite happy to move planets to try and deal with me, yet when I put a message up saying people are welcome to come and play in our system from my alliance you tuck your tail between your legs and run off into hiding behind false allegation, for which may I add you never apologised for. ]against Over a 300 man Ranke #1 by over nearly 100,000 points over the #2 and the #37 70,000 points as rank 17 alliances and you want to run and hide your members under another alliance name so you have the benefit of winning easily? [We would not be hiding any of our members anywhere. All Time Wasters will be remaining Time Wasters and all MM will be remaining MM as we will not be swapping members during the war.] Your #1, you have all the advantage you need.     WHO IS THE COWARD I ASK? [The one who keeps shouting for reinforcments and not accepting the war request even though he shouted his mouth off before hand?]
Here are the FACTS:
1   Time Wasters  Time  518,506,780 Yes thats us!
17   Dark Sphere of Omega 4000  Ω 4K  130,843,715 They just realised that they bit off more than they can chew and are now looking to wriggle out of war.
37   Minutemen  time  69,601,948 Asides from officers, a primarily dmode alliance.

There is nearly 400,000 points between us and TIME.  There are less than 61,000 between us and current little time.  Little time is closer in rank even after losing some 60 members today They have NOT lost 60 members, to my knowledge nobody has left. If you would be so kind as to provide your evidece for this so we can all see where your allegations are comming from (probably as unfounded as the "You hacked LJH" one) that would be very kind of you.than we are to Big TIME by a long shot and we aren’t scare of Big Time.  Get your alliances in check and lets do this [Time have NO control over MM, their leader can do whatever he likes, he doesnt even have to pass people over to Time if he doesnt want to. Their is only a gentlemens agreement in place between the two. They are their own alliance.]
I would love nothing more than to see 10 alliances submit request the same way I have for war with both of these alliances.  I’m sick and Tired of them playing under this curtain and then calling us COWARDS. What curtain is this? I assume you are refering to your ramblings about MM? How many times do we have to tell you that they are nothing to do with us other than we get their 5000+ ranked members and we send officers between each other to help train their members. 
Little time will have another war request from us tomorrow morning.
‘Remember it’s just a GAME’ I believe that you need to read that last bit back to yourself a few times and not make things personal, such as the facebook information posted on your forums the other week.
It’s TIME to GROW a SET already and let’s get it on!!!!! Same advice as above, just click the accept war button and lets get blowing crap up!



Emails:
 
 Elnino  re: Greetings  1 day ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-15 17:21:49 UTC
I thought you only communicated by mass messages and that your unfounded allegations against one of my officers was a declaration of war on my alliance. Either put up or shut up.
Have you called in the FBI yet? Maybe Mulder and Scully are available :)

Now might be a good time to make a formal appology for the smnear campaign you made against my name. After all, the only thing that comes close to reaching as wider audiance as your Mass PM is this forum. Honestly, anyone on his buddy list has to get physio therapy on their scrolling finger from scrolling past all the names of who he sends the messages to.

Kaork  War Terms  about 6 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 21:45:32 UTC
Time to 'put up or shutup'
I have sent a war request to little time with the same below terms. If accepted then I will send you a war request with the following terms:
1mil in res. no Inactives. No dmode percentage
Let's get it on. Talking the talk, now walk the walk, you are pussyfooting your way out of war. We can all see it.
K
   Elnino  re: War Terms  about 6 hours ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-16 22:24:10 UTC
Our training alliance has never and will never get involved in wars because they are purely a training alliance. The rest of your terms are acceptable for Time Wasters.
Send a new war request to me if you are agreeable to those terms.
May the best alliance win.
El
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Kaork    re: War Terms    about 6 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:26:17 UTC
The terms have been provided.. There will be no hiding.. either they train in production or you bow out of the war with us.. Simple as that. What good would war with time do them? It wouldnt stop TW camping in their backyards.

Kaork    re: War Terms    about 5 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:45:08 UTC
So here we sit.. at a impass.. You forcing me to do something I don't want to do and me forcing you to decide on doing something you don't want to do to get what you want. There is no decision to be made.

Here is the reality. In kaorks head at least.

You will target me anyway.. And we will target you and little time anyway. Lets go ahead and make this official in all areas.

The way I see it you have two choices as I have put the ball in your court:

1. Accept the terms and have little time accept the terms. They are a very well ranked alliance and actually alot closer in points to us then we are to you.

2. Or We all lose face while this becomes a laughing stock cause you know I won't be quiet about it and it will be blasted all over the uni and forums. Yet who was it that made the first forum post, even if it was in completly the wrong section.

Let me know your thoughts.


 Elnino  re: War Terms  about 5 hours ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-16 22:51:58 UTC
MM have their own leader and officers and I don't make decisions for them. Since they were founded they have had a policy of not getting involved in wars.
The cutoff between us and MM is 5k in rank. To level the playing field, as you don't have a training alliance, I am proposing that players ranked worse than 5k can not be hit by either side. That is my final offer.
El

Kaork  re: War Terms  about 5 hours ago
To: Elnino
Date: 2012-05-16 22:57:27 UTC
I don't trust that.. Its all or nothing mate, the TERMS stand as they are.. You have no leg to stand on. Its not nice to make fun of Elnino, its not his fault he has had no legs since birth!You want this, I was harassed Yawn. and then begged for it. Come get it, the cookie is on the table. Oh I do hope its a choc chip one.
As I know you are lying and you have full control over what goes on over there... Again this seems to be comming from that very reliable intel source, namely Kaorks head.I will not allow you to filter your members through during this. We already said there would be no membership movement. I have played that game once before with your alliance I wont do it again. In the misc we will be fighting agains over 300 people and two front war against two alliance. Think this is the best for a newly formed alliance that is still trying to learn each other? Nope but I aints got no choice do I. It was either go to War or allow your members to continue bulling mine. Bull shit! You had the diplomacy option, Sean always knew how to use diplomacy and 9/10 if he had a little word I would back away. Your method of diplomacy though is all threats, what way do you think I will take threats?
Your turn to put up or shut up mate. I await your answer.. You have 24 hours before I blast this across the community for you to try and clean up. Nothing to clean up. We, the TIME alliance requested war, not the time alliance.
Kaork
Dark Sphere.

In short ladies and gents, Kaork tried to stop me attacking his members by filling the system with his guys. They moved planets / moons and sent Macs, even if their own guys colony blocked it lol. So when i see their guys filling the system, I ask my guys if they want some fun and a few come over. Kaork didnt like that. Kaork got mad. Kaork made things up in his head. Kaork go rawwwg.

He was perfectly happy for his alliance to try and come and bash on me (note I never said I needed help to my alliance, just that they are welcome to come and play), yet when we make it one alliance versus another and declare war, they try to wriggle out of it. They are trying to put pressure on us to say no to the war ourselves.

Wrong Kaork, we are still banging the war drum. We await the war declaration being returned as accepted.

Your move.



From the leader of little time:
   Reavers Band  re: War request  about 4 hours ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-17 00:20:53 UTC
No thanks, we are a training alliance. We do not accept war requests.

   Kaork    re: War request    57 minutes ago
To: Reavers Band
Date: 2012-05-17 03:11:19 UTC
If Time wants a war with us then there training alliance is going to war with us. Your closer in rank to us then we are to them. You can let your boss know I sent this. If Time is targeting us we are going to target you. Futher more so is the rest of the uni


   Reavers Band  re: War request  27 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-17 03:41:12 UTC
Attacking members of Minutemen (time) will not help you in a war with Time Wasters (Time). Members of Minutemen cannot help Time Wasters in a war with you. Targeting us will be futile and result in wasted time and resources.
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Kaork    re: War request    15 minutes ago
To: Reavers Band
Date: 2012-05-17 03:54:16 UTC
No sir, you have a mis understanding. What you call time wasted and futile, I call filling up my dios.

I'm sure you will get the news letter... just wait for it to post.

Kaork
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Title: Re: Time / 4000 hostilities
Post by: TomL on May 17, 2012, 09:00:55 AM
Sorry I should also mentio that the 4000 alliance has ordered everyone less than 1500 in rank to go into dmode for the war. Who is hiding their members again Kaorky?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 17, 2012, 11:34:19 AM
Sorry don't use forums much I'll be happy to redirect it to the proper location if you'll tell me where.  I see a lot of war happenings. Although I will be posting battle reports later so might need to stay here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 17, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
what you want to do is move this thread to the main original area. since it wont be explicitly just battle reports. i am sure there will some banter here and there. the battle report thread also follows stricter guidelines on posting battle reports.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: elnino on May 17, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
There won't be any banter here unless Kaork mans up and accepts our war request. However as he has ordered most of his alliance to go into hiding in d-mode it looks like he is going to chicken out of a war with Time. And not for the first time either.

He wins the prize for getting his excuses in early though. Maybe he should rename his alliance to Yellow Sphere of Omega 4000  :)
Title: Re: Time / 4000 hostilities
Post by: kevin rhodes on May 17, 2012, 03:56:11 PM
and will you have them all thrown into a police cell for this?? bfg wheres the violin icon?  :o
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 17, 2012, 05:41:02 PM
You know i really cant be arsed reading crap like this from the OP .

If you want a war with Time just do it... You want to include the tiddlers in time in this for no readon.

As far as i am concerned Time offered you a war , you sought to put conditions on it and when Time said no you ran away like a bunch of kids...

Man up .. War with just Time or shut up ...

And i am not related to any of your 2 alliances but think the OP just spat his dummy out ...

Man up or shut up..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 17, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
I am famous now!  My name is on the boards :) 
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 17, 2012, 07:25:01 PM
Ya know I was there way back when in the depths of time when toml was maquis. The 4K merged with Federated Universe to try and work things out in that war. Toml's propaganda tore that merger apart. Yet when I look at the alliance boards all I can find is the FU tag. The Maquis could not stand the test of time. So they merged with Time and time. Since then I have seen the Time and time tag exchanged several times on toml's account. Especially after he lost his Heph.

So is this SOP (standard operating principle for those not in the know) for Time? To have an 'officer exchange' after one of Time get their fleet handed to them on a dios platter?

"You obviously need more 'training' because you failed"

Can Time stand the test of time or do they need to merge with time to train more. It seems to be that there is a free flow exchange of membership between the two. The Omega 4K does not need to separate those individuals who wish to aspire to greater destruction. We will teach you though actual test of real game play. If you lose your fleet then rebuild. We will be there for you to help out. Learn from your mistakes.

That being said, we have a saying in the Omega4K ... "They can take you fleets, they can take your defenses, they can take your resources, but they can not take your buildings, tech, droids, planets, or your pride"
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 17, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
But clearly your other saying is "we dont want a war" otherwise you would do it...your OP is just whining ..his actions are hypocritical... If he wants a war he just needs to accept the one with Time ..

He just went looking for reasons to avoid it... I think it looks like 4k are the cowards here ... If not then just accept the war with Time instead of thinking up childish reasons for not doing it...

Rarely have i seen so much rubbish on here abput wanting a war and blaming someone else becuase you cant have one ..

4k - joke alliance...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 17, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
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Ya know I was there way back when in the depths of time when toml was maquis. The 4K merged with Federated Universe to try and work things out in that war. Toml's propaganda tore that merger apart. Might I point out that EVERYTHING said in the propoganda newsletters was true. Yet when I look at the alliance boards all I can find is the FU tag. The Maquis could not stand the test of time. So they merged with Time and time. Since then I have seen the Time and time tag exchanged several times on toml's account. Especially after he lost his Heph.Its not only me that went over, many officer go over on a weekly basis. I go over a lot because I run the parser, I help the newer people learn how to use it.

So is this SOP (standard operating principle for those not in the know) for Time? To have an 'officer exchange' after one of Time get their fleet handed to them on a dios platter? An attempt here to make me feel bad? Afraid you failed, it was taken fairly by my own mess up. I was ready to just let the game go but I was talked into staying. Im glad they did talk me into staying.

"You obviously need more 'training' because you failed" fair play

Can Time stand the test of time or do they need to merge with time to train more. It seems to be that there is a free flow exchange of membership between the two. Officers swap back and forth on a weekly basis, unless something comes up and they need to swop back mid week. There is no "free flow" of membership, we are very strict on who can and cant move around. The Omega 4K does not need to separate those individuals who wish to aspire to greater destructionYou perhaps do not need to separate your membership based on game knowledge, that doesnt stop your alliance singling out its members for having an opinion and expressing it though. See below for something which was passed to one of our members, its disgusting for an alliance to treat its members like this and Sean should be ashamed of himself. My opinion of him has dropped dramatically.. We will teach you though actual test of real game play. If you lose your fleet then rebuild. As so many 4000 guys have over the last few days. Poor Jim Rambo, Poor Trickster.... We will be there for you to help out. Learn from your mistakes.

That being said, we have a saying in the Omega4K ... "They can take you fleets, they can take your defenses, they can take your resources, but they can not take your buildings, tech, droids, planets, or your pride"


If this is how 4000 treats its members, I suggest they find better.

 
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Sean William K Mackay
about 6 hours ago
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Ok so here's what i envision happening, from past experience.

4000 lost a war against the black sun because of inactives counting against war points, as well those lowly ranked getting spanked.

I don't intend to lose another for the same reasons.

#1 if you are not ranked better than 1500 you will be a MAIN target in this war. There will be nothing you can do to stop it. You will lose your shit and your cash and we will lose the war. No question about that.
In our war, not 1 of our top guys lost large fleets.
We had a few that made errors and got caught. But all the main fleets survived. Small fleets fell..

The only chance we have to win this war is for EVERY player ranked lower than 1500 toggle Dip mode. This will force Time to move moons closer to players like myself, Kaork etc.

We need to remove anything easy and force them to attack gated moons of players who can fight back.

#2 If you are caught attacking from a planet when you have a moon during this war I will personally boot you from this alliance and deal with the aftermath later.
I don't intend on losing a war because "you" were stupid and did not respect your fleet. Two guys have been reprimanded for this in the past 2 weeks. One of them lost a zeus over it. Be advised, we are in a war against this games top players so if you aren't in dip like has been stated above, and a stupid mistake costs us a war, expect yourself to be finding a new alliance.

#3 - For those of you talking about a spin off alliance for whatever reason, maybe you weren't happy coming in, or maybe you just disagree with everything i have tried to do, i have this to say.

I don't need you. I don't want fair weather friends or allies i cannot rely on. You have 2 days to make up your mind on what you want to do. If you leave, our friendship will end. For my guys, you will never be allowed into the 4000 again. You will be removed from my buddy list, and i will have your fleet.


You know exactly who i am talking to.....

Put up or get the fun out and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 17, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
Yes I see you have affiliates with our ranks that are willing to share information from our boards. Perhaps it was put there just for that express dis-information. We know who they are and will provide them the info we want you to have.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 17, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Allow me add Kaork's response, we are after all adults here ... For the most part.


 Kaork
about 21 hours ago
So the choice is utilmatly yours to go dip or not. The only thing is.. if you don't.. you must must step up your game. I will not force anyone of my members to go Dip. But I do ask.. Please step up the game!!!!!

My counter part Sean is a bit more direct then I am. I do like that from him as he gets his point across. The point is.. if you stay active (not in dip) You have to stay on your toes at all time. I have never lost a fleet (well cept the server glitch) why because I stay on my feet. It can be done. I did not start out 300 ranked. I started out 28,000.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Sky* on May 17, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
I just wish that  Ω 4K would make a final decision!!

The offer on the table is a War with Time Wasters........Take it or leave it!!

Stop all this crap and put your money where your mouth is if your all man enough!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: kevin rhodes on May 17, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
i agree no point starting this thread without a war otherwise i would make one for the coward rangers alliance
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 17, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
Erm you do know there are ways to move entire forums rather than copy and pasting to new ones?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Grabby Raccoon on May 18, 2012, 03:36:35 AM

If this is how 4000 treats its members, I suggest they find better.


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Sean William K Mackay
about 6 hours ago
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Ok so here's what i envision happening, from past experience.

4000 lost a war against the black sun because of inactives counting against war points, as well those lowly ranked getting spanked.

I don't intend to lose another for the same reasons.

#1 if you are not ranked better than 1500 you will be a MAIN target in this war. There will be nothing you can do to stop it. You will lose your shit and your cash and we will lose the war. No question about that.
In our war, not 1 of our top guys lost large fleets.
We had a few that made errors and got caught. But all the main fleets survived. Small fleets fell..

The only chance we have to win this war is for EVERY player ranked lower than 1500 toggle Dip mode. This will force Time to move moons closer to players like myself, Kaork etc.

We need to remove anything easy and force them to attack gated moons of players who can fight back.

#2 If you are caught attacking from a planet when you have a moon during this war I will personally boot you from this alliance and deal with the aftermath later.
I don't intend on losing a war because "you" were stupid and did not respect your fleet. Two guys have been reprimanded for this in the past 2 weeks. One of them lost a zeus over it. Be advised, we are in a war against this games top players so if you aren't in dip like has been stated above, and a stupid mistake costs us a war, expect yourself to be finding a new alliance.

#3 - For those of you talking about a spin off alliance for whatever reason, maybe you weren't happy coming in, or maybe you just disagree with everything i have tried to do, i have this to say.

I don't need you. I don't want fair weather friends or allies i cannot rely on. You have 2 days to make up your mind on what you want to do. If you leave, our friendship will end. For my guys, you will never be allowed into the 4000 again. You will be removed from my buddy list, and i will have your fleet.


You know exactly who i am talking to.....

Put up or get the fun out and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.


As a former member of Sphere of 4000 I have to say this stinks to high heaven. As a firm jab in mister Mackay's ribs for treating your membership as such I offer all members of sphere of 4k or omega 4k member ship in the Alliance Systemic Genesis. S-Gen will never treat you with any thing less than what you deserve. Respect.

(I am sure most alliances in the game would do the same)

Members of 4k reading this you know who I am, decide for yourself whether you want a senior member of your alliance giving you this kind of declaration.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 04:06:50 AM
Fine whatever I'm not gonna fight Matt on this so I'll just post this here and this will be the new board.  As for the post above as I stated it was taken out of context right off my boards.  You do not read very well If you read the other post, the. You'd know that and what I directly posted afterward.  Ask any of our members if they fill bullied or pushed around by me?  Sean is a stand up guy and has a perfect role in the alliance he has faithful members that follow him in both the game and real life do take your 'used to be 4000' crap else where.  You ain't cut out to be 4k and that's why you ain't in Dark Sphere

To Hen, wildcat and any other Time member posting on my board:

Your attempt to hijack my board and try to CYA is obvious. There are plenty of things I could say (such as have know idea what your even saying) but I will not waist peoples Time.  You do that plenty well yourselves. Stick to the Facts or go start your own boards. While you can copy information out of my boards you cut out what you want to try to get your points across. At the I time I found this funny but now I'm wetting myself laughing so hard.

Your terms have been presented.   Either you "put up or shutup" as you call it. You called us out to war and we have told you we will accept. We have provided you the terms,  we have called your (so called training alliance) to war. 3 days ago they were ranked in the mid 20's now ranked in the low 30's to try to hide the fact that it would be a fair fight. I believe anyone that knows anything about the game can vouch for this. Accept the war with us under both tags on the terms given to you (for the war you Begged for and are still begging for) or don't, I really do not give a flying crap. We will target all Time and time members and we will do it while having fun, we will consider us with War with both alliance until the end of Time if nessarry. I will specifically fill up my dios with your ships and nuke your planets as we have already. The Dark Sphere don't run from anyone!

I think its Time for me to have a beer after reading all of this banter. At least its fun for the community to see Time Squirm.

Kaork
Dark Sphere to the End of TIME

P.S.

As I'm sure Hen will hijack yet another post and post everything in BIG RED BOLD letters so everyone can hear him ROAR how mighty and proud his hephless arse is. I will look forward to reading it while I'm sitting on the tolet taking my morning crap. Night everyone.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 05:33:20 AM
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I think its Time for me to have a beer after reading all of this banter. At least its fun for the community to see Time Squirm.

Can anyone else see Time squirming or is this just in Kaorks head? We have laid down the glove, its 1 on 1 alliance war or nothing. You are just trying to get out of the mess you have made by your leadership style, you have few and far between diplomatic skills and a hot head. Not especially qualities of a leader.

In front of the whole of the community, I ask you this and request a one word answer.

"Is your alliance prepared to go to war or not?"
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 18, 2012, 05:36:21 AM
OK so i have to abridge this message received so lovingly from the signatory as it breaks forum rules, those sections which are questionable will be RED X'd out. For those of you that received the Mass PM from Kaork you will recognize some of the passages. I have no evidenciary proof to support any allegations. I simply submit this missive for your perusal.

Quote
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-14 18:50:04 UTC

So I have recieved an interesting PM which you sent out today and I will address various points which you have raised within that mass PM which you sent around.

"Henrette is a XXXXX, and a XXXX"

I am not a XXXX, I would like for you to send me ANY evidence showing that I am a XXXX. You only call me a XXXXXX as your alliance is unable to do anything about me in your areas. I have already said that I am not targetting specific members of your alliace, however I am targetting your alliance. If that means I hit a rank 100 or a rank 10000 it really doesnt matter. I hit ships as I find them which afterall is the name of the game.

"He drops p mode calls in sky and then calls for a war with Omega-4000"

This is plain wrong. I had been calling for war with the 4000 since way before they merged with you. If they failed to tell you this then it is a failure on your part to collect background information.

I also dispute the fact that you say I drop P mode. You say this almost as if I drop it because I am scared of you which is completely wrong. I drop into Pmode most nights and quit often when at work as well. It is easier than fleetsaving and costs almost nothing.

"But Time is rank #2"

I think you will find that is number 1.

"I say if you support this war then you are supporting a XXXX who likes to run players out of the game."

What you say doest particularly matter as you have a reputation in the game for babbling on about nothing. The maquis parser for example. You will also find that I do not run players out of the game. If someone is constantly getting attacked by me, I will usually accept a buddy request and back off from them. This includes people from the 4000. Sean / Alex will be able to vouch for this, for example in the case of Bartanack. (Bartanack is no longer part of any alliance and is deciding on whether to leave the game or not He is in a permanent D-mode sorting this out in RL.  We are trying to keep him IN the game, On my word)

It is never my intention to run people out of the game, I do not want to see the game die. At the same time however, One must remember that this is a war game and it is up to YOU as their alliance leader to teach them how to play the game in a way that they can survive. Their loss is ultimately your failure as a leader.

"so why is it the first war you've wanted to be in since BFG took away double dsp"

I believe that you are getting Times official position of no wars mixed up with my own position. I have NEVER stated that this is the first war I have wanted since BFG took away double DSP. Perhaps in future before sending out such a sweeping statement in a PM you could get your facts right.

"that is who has been XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX. "

I have done no such thing. I challenge you to provide evidence on this.

"that is who's account he was XXXXX XXXXXXX and he also XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXX thus possibly making it a XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX. hen did this without XXXXXXX knowledge"

What crazy substances are you taking? I have never XXXXX XXXXX anybodys XXXXXX. Furthermore I would be very interested to know what XXXXXXXX I have apparently XXXX you from XXXX XXXX XXXX. I would also like to point out that a XXXX XXXX does not mean anything, I am not a US citizen. However, that said, I still maintain that I am innocent.

"here is the message Hen sent me. Attempting to cause a rift inside the alliance whilst gaining intel and XXXXXX. "

Perhaps you could be so kind as to actually show me the message? I do not deny attempting to cause a rift in your alliance, however that is not difficult with multiple members of your alliance either unhappy at your leadership style or unhappy at merging in the first place. I also do not dispute that I am gaining intel, however please look closer to home before sprouting the proverbial manure from your mouth.

"I want him XXXXXXXX from the game immediately XXXXXXXXX. "

Please let me know how this gets on, as I submitted tickets on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and all have been answered, I can only assume that your own ticket has been answered as well.

While we are talking about tickets, how many warnings have you had in the last week or so? How many have I had? I think that says it all. You are a desperate leader trying to cling onto power within a newly merged alliance which is barely keeping its head above the water. With such a reckless leader at the helm I do not give much hope to your alliance lasting long.

At least Sean was a good leader of the 4000. He 9/10 times did what was best for his members. So far you have been all talk and no action, when are you planning to launch your fleet at me? Even while you have been sat in the same system as me, I have been attacking 4000 guys.

I would also like to point out that your own members are actually guilty of what you have accused me. I have yet to hear you ask for that members immediate XXXXXXXX from the game.

You get carried away and have a short temper, is there any wonder that you went so wildly over the top with miss information that was given to you. Do you realise that you now have the whole of the Time alliance laughing at you?

With love,
Henrietta

-------------------------

The duplicity is astounding. BFG can peruse the original posting on the Ω 4K boards.

Time you have been duped into accepting a Maquis Feud, an Alliance which no longer exist. The Maquis/Fu war was devastating, yet FU still exist. The 4000 merged with FU and due to the machinations of spy's causing internal strife, that merger failed. The 4000 did survive and still survives on the boards. Now we have become stronger and accepted brotherhood with The Dark Omega and the Sphere of 4000, becoming the Dark Sphere of Omega 4000. The merge is complete, we are one. We will prevail, regardless of the future outcome of what transpires here.

One personal vendetta is what you are pursuing, We have offered Time/time a War request, yet you will not accept the terms. We appear at an impasse.

We await your acceptance of our terms Time/time/Maquis
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 05:54:18 AM
Your merger with FU failed because Sean opened his eyes to the fact his guys were being used as pawns.

Your merger with Omega is failing, there are plenty of members openly expressing opinions on your leaderships style and do not like where your alliance is heading. You can deny that all you like, but it is fact. When your alliance members have an opinion, instead of shaping the alliance around its members, they are slapped back down. An alliance is there for its membership, not for its leadership.

Your "Terms" are mearly a way for your alliance to wriggle out of the mess you got yourselves in. Why would we accept the "terms" of a war which signs another alliance up for war that we do not have control of in that respect? Jared is very misinformed if he believes that Time has tight fist control over MM. Either you want war with Time or you don't. Lets have some openess on the forums, is it a yes or no to war with Time?

As for the content of that message to sean, perhaps you should also post the original message that Kaork sent around, along with BFGs response?

Edit: Also just to say that my message to Kaork was already in the public domain as I posted it in the SFC skype rooms before I sent it to Kaork.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 18, 2012, 06:26:29 AM
Just accept the war with Time , forget time. Stop whining about them being cowardscwhen its clear 4k are the cowards. Hypocritical to come on whining that 2 alliances wont war with you when 1 will.

Quite simply 4k are a bunch of lily livered cowards who havent   got the strength of their convictions here.

Accept Times war request or shut up. It really us as simple as that..


Cluck cluck cluck ...man up or go forth and multiply i suggest...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: elnino on May 18, 2012, 09:39:53 AM
Time you have been duped into accepting a Maquis Feud

Hostilities between Time Wasters and Dark Omega go back almost 3 years long before any Maquis feud. Ask Kaork about VTC. Time has not been duped by anyone and unlike with your alliance I have unanimous backing from my members for a war. None of them have chickened out of a war by going into d-mode unlike more than half of your alliance.

One personal vendetta is what you are pursuing

This is not a personal vendetta. We have the full backing of all our alliance unlike yours.

We have offered Time/time a War request, yet you will not accept the terms. We appear at an impasse.

You have not offered Time a war request. Time offered you an unconditional war request which is sitting in your inbox gathering dust.

You did offer time a war request. As you are aware time is a training alliance and all non-officers there are ranked worse than 5k. At the same time you ordered all your members ranked worse than 1,500 to hide in d-mode. How would that war make sense for them?

You have a war request from Time. Either man up and accept it or reject it and show your true yellow colours.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 09:59:16 AM
Does this look like an alliance leader that is serious about going to war?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/166720_10151716883575459_542430458_24126260_286422688_n.jpg)

All talk, no action.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: elnino on May 18, 2012, 10:59:45 AM
Is there anybody left to fight the war if by any slim chance they actually man up and accept our war request?  We would have added a diplomacy mode condition to the war request had we realized that we were dealing with cowards. ;D

At least Kaork is leading by example by chickening out of the war and going into d-mode like most of the rest of his alliance.  ::)

Does anyone believe that he ever had any intention of accepting our war request?  It looks like the merger is turning out to be an epic fail for both alliances. :(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 11:36:00 AM
So many comments so little Time.  I will have to keep this short and sweat.

I will not be like Hen and continue to quote or copy everyone’s comments and past so that we call have to ready this crap twice or more so I will just reply to your comments via your Name.
All post: other then maybe one or two have been Time members and this is not how the rest of the uni feels.  They continue to document that we are the ones backing down Yet in reality it is they who seem to be trying to Squirm their way out of this. 

Point and Case:  I moved a planet and set it right on top of Hen.  Sky showed up, I didn’t run? More joined me in the fight.   Presented a War request.  I Told them I accepted with my condition to fight a 2 front war with both of their Tags against #1 and #37 with over 300 members in it all at the same Time.  Of which they Deny yet continue to Beg for War so they can save their little face they have left in this Uni.   We have target both alliances and have landed atop of several of them the last several days.  We have nuked hens planet to the ground.  I have personally told you we are at WAR officially or not.  You put so much on this piece of paper yet check your back yards cause we are craping in them.   If its so important to you go and WHINE to your leader and tell him to accept the terms of WAR provided and Lets GET IT ON.   Otherwise go take your Whining to someone else, I’m simply tired of reading it and so is everyone else.   Does this sound like we are real scared of you? (copy and insert your big bold red letters here Hen).

Time is a Bully BFG alliance, always has been always will be, but when you have someone stand up against you all you can do is whine.   Would you like some Cheese with that whine?

To Hen- ref going D mode:   While, unlike your hephless arese, I have been successful in the game.  I am also a successful person in RL.  I have procreated and have raised two wonderful children.  I have always and will always take time out for them in life and that has always ment dropping dmode for a bit.  I will probably drop D next weekend as well and I will do it later in the summer as well.  RL, Kids, work are all important to me, unlike you who seem to have nothing going on better then harass and bully people in and out of the game until they want to stop playing.    I assure you I will return so that you can continue your dailey timed probing and do nothing but talk actions.   I will also assure you that when I am back I will blow up more of your D and your ships.

To Elnino:  Yes 3 years ago, you mean when Time decided that they would try to Bully Omega (just barely 100 ranked at the time while Time rank 5) out of G20 and we ended up blowing up the Time Leaders Heph, all his ships and the #2’s main mac coloney for over 320mil in debry and you ran back home with your tail tucked between your legs limping to never be heard of again until recent 3 years later.  Yea I’ll vauge for that.  In fact I believe all that is still posted on the boards somewhere.   Thanks for reminding me those were fun times, we didn't run Scared from you back then either.    Give VTC a kiss for me.
 
What is that smell, its either me morning crap or someone burnt my coffee.
Have a nice day everyone!
Kaork.


Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 18, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
Kaork - put up or shut up. War with just Time or dont .. In which case you nail your colours to the mast .. Bright yellow and it runs all the way down your back...

All talk no action ...

Accept the Time war request.. Or are you too frightened as seems the case...

You wont becuase you are a coward...pure and simple..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 18, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
Wow koark, you seem like a broken record..."we want war!!! oh crap so do they....well Ill sound like a complete idiot coward to get out of this"

Justbecause you bought someone's account and merged 2.crappy alliance together doesn't make you your alliance worth a dam.

You should just accept the war...although after reading all this Im sure the whole universe will be coming for you.

Way to show your true colors.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: kevin rhodes on May 18, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
+1  ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 06:10:23 PM
So many comments so little Time.  I will have to keep this short and sweat.  Please dont, short and sweet would be much more preferable. Especially as I do not have too much deoderant let. I better add that to my shopping list.

I will not be like Hen and continue to quote or copy everyone’s comments and past so that we call have to ready this crap twice or more so I will just reply to your comments via your Name. You dont like the special attention I am giving your forum posts? I thought you would be flattered that I am spending my precious time on your forum posts.
All post: other then maybe one or two have been Time members and this is not how the rest of the uni feels. Everyone has the chance to comment, if someone disagrees with us they should say so. Even though you have told your alliance to come show support on here, how many have? Perhaps that is because they cannot be seen with their name attached to a proverbial sinking ship.  They continue to document that we are the ones backing down Yet in reality it is they who seem to be trying to Squirm their way out of this.  Oh pray tell Kaork, how are we squirming out? Time, the alliance which has sent the war declaration is more than ready to go. It is you who is pussyfooting around adding other alliances who are nothing to do with whats going on. This is Time vs Omega 4000.

Point and Case:  I moved a planet and set it right on top of Hen.  Sky showed up, I didn’t run? More joined me in the fight.   Presented a War request.  I Told them I accepted with my condition to fight a 2 front war with both of their Tags against #1 and #37 with over 300 members in it all at the same Time.  Of which they Deny yet continue to Beg for War so they can save their little face they have left in this Uni.   We have target both alliances and have landed atop of several of them the last several days. Why on earth are you targetting time? You are clearly unable to comprehend how we are two seperate alliances. Does go down well that an alliance leader is unable to grasp that simple concept.  We have nuked hens planet to the ground. Now, for the record.... when he says "nuked my planet to the ground", what he actually means is that they nuked a planet with almost no defences on. Something along the lines of about 40 nukes worth. Not like they sent 1000 nukes or anything.  I have personally told you we are at WAR officially or not We are not at "War" till you accept it officially. .  You put so much on this piece of paper yet check your back yards cause we are craping in them. The paper is important as it activates 60% plunder and counts towards another war win.    If its so important to you go and WHINE to your leader and tell him to accept the terms of WAR provided and Lets GET IT ON. Yet again Kaork, you are all talk and no action. Someone from your previous alliance described you as someone with a big gob who would start lots of trouble then just happen to find a reason to go dmode and leave the rest of the members fighting your conflict. Same old story here I am afraid.   Otherwise go take your Whining to someone else, I’m simply tired of reading it and so is everyone else. Accept the war and we can get on with it then.   Does this sound like we are real scared of you? No, I do not believe that you are scared, for some reason you are distoring reality in your head. You have this image in your head of teh situation and everyone else is looking in wondering what planet you are on.  (copy and insert your big bold red letters here Hen). I hope you do not mind that I have jumped the gun here, If you do mind then please accept my apologies and a coupon for one of spazzys women.

Time is a Bully BFG alliance This is where people are looking in and saying to themselves "his doctors need to pull back on his meds a bit". , always has been always will be, but when you have someone stand up against you all you can do is whine. Who is complaining? We are here and ready for war, the one doing the complaining is you.    Would you like some Cheese with that whine? Not a fan of cheese or wine, so no thank you.

To Hen- ref going D mode:   While, unlike your hephless arese Soooooooo 1990. get with the times Kaork, that is yesterdays news. It doesnt bother me in the slightest and I have good relations with the guy who took it. , I have been successful in the game.  I am also a successful person in RL.  I have procreated I think there should be a law for this and have raised two wonderful children. I have a child as well.  I have always and will always take time out for them in life and that has always ment dropping dmode for a bit. That is a good enough reason for me, kids always come first.   I will probably drop D next weekend as well and I will do it later in the summer as well.  RL, Kids, work are all important to me, unlike you who seem to have nothing going on better then harass and bully people in and out of the game until they want to stop playing. Rl, kids and work are all also important to me. I have a good job, I am a chocolatier by profession, I have an amazing girlfriend who doesnt sleep around and my son is the best thing in the world. Especially as im typing this and he wants to put one of each smiley in.... [ :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) 8) ??? ::) :P :P :-[ :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(]

To say that there are not things that are important to me other than this game is wrong. Yet again I dispute your claim of being a bully, I also dipsute your claim of harassment. How many more harassment warnings do I need to send you for you to see who is the one that is harassing people?   I assure you I will return so that you can continue your dailey timed probing and do nothing but talk actions. Last time I checked I was launching at your alliance even with you sat next to me. Yawn. Your rhetoric is getting tired now Kaorky.    I will also assure you that when I am back I will blow up more of your D and your ships. You personally havent blown up any of either anyway, and non of your alliance has blown up my ships.

To Elnino:  Yes 3 years ago, you mean when Time decided that they would try to Bully Omega (just barely 100 ranked at the time while Time rank 5) out of G20 and we ended up blowing up the Time Leaders Heph, all his ships and the #2’s main mac coloney for over 320mil in debry and you ran back home with your tail tucked between your legs limping to never be heard of again until recent 3 years later.  Yea I’ll vauge for that.  In fact I believe all that is still posted on the boards somewhere.   Thanks for reminding me those were fun times, we didn't run Scared from you back then either.    Give VTC a kiss for me. Vince can read this, he knows your fond feelings for him.
 
What is that smell, its either me morning crap or someone burnt my coffee. Better check your underwear.
Have a nice day everyone! and have a marrrrvelous day yourself Kaorky.
Kaork.



Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Oh lub good to hear from you again.  How's those promisses of hitting omega members going?  Seems you got quiet after the merger.

Hen: no comment, your a waist of air. You speak so much crap (like 1000 nukes when it was 100) that I don't even want to spend time trying (nor do I feel obligated) to justify your BS.   

P.s was given the account by a good friend with cancer. It had lesser mines then mine does. Tech is about the same, dsp was a little less but now above where i was.  Its the account that took the last time leaders heph.  Has more ships and I like it.  Thanks for inquiring.  My old account is in the capible hands of one of my officer also on the hunt for Time and time.



Have a great weekend everyone I'm off to spend time with the kids. Be back to take your ships another day.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 06:58:51 PM
Hen: no comment, your a waist of air. You speak so much crap (like 1000 nukes when it was 100) that I don't even want to spend time trying (nor do I feel obligated) to justify your BS.   Dear God boy, can you not read? I said you guys destroyed about 40 nukes worth and it wasnt like you sent 1000 nukes at me. Learn to read and contribute constructively before posting in future.



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Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 18, 2012, 07:40:08 PM
Kaork is short for Coward .... Grow a pair ...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
Hen: I am not your boy.

To the above post:  why don't you stop name calling and  'grow a pair' and post your game name ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 08:48:24 PM
Hen: I am not your boy. I never said that you were MY boy, again learn to read please. I simply called you a boy, unless you are disputing the image in my head that you are a male? ... I thought not.

To the above post:  why don't you stop name calling and  'grow a pair' and post your game name ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 09:26:11 PM
Tom can you please make your red any brighter?  We are all having a hard time reading your comment to each and everything said on this board.  I understand that you think you have to have the last word, even if your points or worthless and mute to anything going on.  Have your say to this (copy paste and insert comments here)



Let's add begging for apologies to the List of things Time is begging me for.


    Commander Robert Crawford    This Does not look good For you as A leader    9 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-18 21:06:53 UTC
I'm sorry to say it but, if I was you I would just give up and say your sorry to Time. You as the Leader should know better then to start something that you can't finish. I just thought I would give you that little advice as a good player that I am. Oh BTW running to D mode just shows how much of a c***** you are. Bob
Reply | Delete | Block




To Bob:   I will not apologies ever in anyway shape, form or fashion to Time for standing up to them in bullying my or anyone elses lower ranked members!  Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
Quote
Tom can you please make your red any brighter?  We are all having a hard time reading your comment to each and everything said on this board.  I understand that you think you have to have the last word, even if your points or worthless and mute to anything going on.  Have your say to this (copy paste and insert comments here) Is this any brighter?... well tough I like this red. Who, might I ask is "all" as I do not see your alliance rallying around you here.



Let's add begging for apologies to the List of things Time is begging me for.


    Commander Robert Crawford    This Does not look good For you as A leader    9 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-18 21:06:53 UTC
I'm sorry to say it but, if I was you I would just give up and say your sorry to Time. You as the Leader should know better then to start something that you can't finish. I just thought I would give you that little advice as a good player that I am. Oh BTW running to D mode just shows how much of a c***** you are. Bob
Reply | Delete | Block




To Bob:   I will not apologies ever in anyway shape, form or fashion to Time for standing up to them in bullying my or anyone elses lower ranked members!  Have a nice day.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 18, 2012, 10:23:42 PM
Thanks for making my point valid ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 18, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Thanks for making my point valid ;) You are welcome.

On a side note, please can you tell your fan club to stop messaging Time. The mail room in the alliance is overflowing with messages from other alliances offering help against you.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: meek n mild on May 19, 2012, 12:34:08 AM
It's traditional in these threads (ever since the last one) to include a "Peanut Gallery" for players who aren't directly affected by the conflict but enjoy taking the piss and stirring things up ..
.. is it ok if I take the mick out of a few folk who have posted .. or should I keep my beak out ?
and has the war kicked off yet ?
..
yours curiously .. Meek :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: millsman on May 19, 2012, 01:15:46 AM
You should definitely stir the pot. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 19, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
Not sure what country your in but here we have freedom of speech :) have fun even if it's directed it at me ;)

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 19, 2012, 05:03:40 AM
meek i would say since there really isnt a war currently going and it seems more like you say he say stuff, there isnt a point to have anything like the peanut gallery. all this thread seems like is saying the same thing back and forth. i had originally hoped for something a little better out of this thread but it seems there may not be anything worthwhile here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 06:19:19 AM
Hen: no comment, your a waist of air. You speak so much crap (like 1000 nukes when it was 100) that I don't even want to spend time trying (nor do I feel obligated) to justify your BS.   Dear God boy, can you not read? I said you guys destroyed about 40 nukes worth and it wasnt like you sent 1000 nukes at me. Learn to read and contribute constructively before posting in future.
Hen: I am not your boy.I never said that you were MY boy, again learn to read please. I simply called you a boy, unless you are disputing the image in my head that you are a male? ... I thought not.

To the above post:  why don't you stop name calling and  'grow a pair' and post your game name ;)
denigrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/denigrate)

den·i·grate
   [den-i-greyt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), den·i·grat·ed, den·i·grat·ing.
1.
to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone's character.
2.
to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project.

TomL you denigrated Kaork. That is what Kaork obviously meant. see above definition for denigrate. You must have a language barrier as you speak the Queens English, but slang over here in the Colonies is a little more colorful.

Here let me educate you on the origin of the word boy:

Boy (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Boy?s=t)

boy
mid-12c., boie "servant, commoner, knave, boy," possibly from O.Fr. embuie "one fettered," from V.L. *imboiare, from L. boia "leg iron, yoke, leather collar," from Gk. boeiai dorai "ox hides." But it also appears to be identical with E.Fris. boi "young gentleman," and perhaps with Du. boef "knave,"

Probably the most insulting of that is knave. You know what that is right? You're obviously an "educated" man... no I will not call YOU "boy" that would be beneath me and disrespectful to the powers that be. No not you TomL.


meek i would say since there really isnt a war currently going and it seems more like you say he say stuff, there isnt a point to have anything like the peanut gallery. all this thread seems like is saying the same thing back and forth. i had originally hoped for something a little better out of this thread but it seems there may not be anything worthwhile here.


Yes there are a lot of Air pirates on this particular thread. Time and time again it happens yet they never seem to get short of breathe.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
meek i would say since there really isnt a war currently going and it seems more like you say he say stuff, there isnt a point to have anything like the peanut gallery. all this thread seems like is saying the same thing back and forth. i had originally hoped for something a little better out of this thread but it seems there may not be anything worthwhile here.

Completely agree, I do not know why Kaorky started this thread. He shows no intention of accepting war and from the stories that are being sent to us he does this often. He stirs the pot and then backs out making some lame excuses. I would love to be able to post battle reports but we have pulled back from attacking them to save their fleets for an actual war. We were in danger of running our targets short before any war.

denigrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/denigrate)

den·i·grate
   [den-i-greyt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), den·i·grat·ed, den·i·grat·ing.
1.
to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone's character.
2.
to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project.

TomL you denigrated Kaork. That is what Kaork obviously meant. see above definition for denigrate. You must have a language barrier as you speak the Queens English, but slang over here in the Colonies is a little more colorful.

Here let me educate you on the origin of the word boy:

Boy (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Boy?s=t)

boy
mid-12c., boie "servant, commoner, knave, boy," possibly from O.Fr. embuie "one fettered," from V.L. *imboiare, from L. boia "leg iron, yoke, leather collar," from Gk. boeiai dorai "ox hides." But it also appears to be identical with E.Fris. boi "young gentleman," and perhaps with Du. boef "knave,"

Probably the most insulting of that is knave. You know what that is right? You're obviously an "educated" man... no I will not call YOU "boy" that would be beneath me and disrespectful to the powers that be. No not you TomL.




I do not deny that I sought to belittle Kaorks chracter. Part 2 of your insightful dictionary excerpt is exactly what I was going for. Kaorks contribution to the forum is all talk and no substace. Perhaps you needed that little English lesson, I certainly did not.

As for your last sentence, are you sure? Kaork seems to think that I might be BFG for some strange reason.

We are waiting on you to accept the war, what is the point in even creating a forum thread if you are not going to go through with a war?

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 06:59:45 AM
Quote
I do not deny that I sought to belittle Kaorks chracter. Part 2 of your insightful dictionary excerpt is exactly what I was going for. Kaorks contribution to the forum is all talk and no substace. Perhaps you needed that little English lesson, I certainly did not.My Mother was an English Instructor. Grammar was her Forte. Spelling was too. I still seem to misspell sometimes, a great disappointment to her, but I always attempt a proof read before submitting a post. I would suggest the same of you in the future, just to make sure there is no misunderstanding

As for your last sentence, are you sure? Kaork seems to think that I might be BFG for some strange reason.I have no allusions to how you view your standing with BFG. You are a cash flow. Plain and simple. You spend your hard earned money to entertain yourself. I hope your are entertained as much as you can afford.

We are waiting on you to accept the war, what is the point in even creating a forum thread if you are not going to go through with a war?
denigrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/denigrate)

den·i·grate
   [den-i-greyt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), den·i·grat·ed, den·i·grat·ing.
1.
to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone's character.
2.
to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project.

TomL you denigrated Kaork. That is what Kaork obviously meant. see above definition for denigrate. You must have a language barrier as you speak the Queens English, but slang over here in the Colonies is a little more colorful.

Here let me educate you on the origin of the word boy:

Boy (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Boy?s=t)

boy
mid-12c., boie "servant, commoner, knave, boy," possibly from O.Fr. embuie "one fettered," from V.L. *imboiare, from L. boia "leg iron, yoke, leather collar," from Gk. boeiai dorai "ox hides." But it also appears to be identical with E.Fris. boi "young gentleman," and perhaps with Du. boef "knave,"

Probably the most insulting of that is knave. You know what that is right? You're obviously an "educated" man... no I will not call YOU "boy" that would be beneath me and disrespectful to the powers that be. No not you TomL.



Yes there are a lot of Air pirates on this particular thread. Time and time again it happens yet they never seem to get short of breathe.


Being a stickler for the rules of the Forum TomL I would appreciate it if you would follow this one:

Quote
Be Constructive and Civil
Starfleet Commander is an international game. Many people with different backgrounds, values, ethics and beliefs participate. The same applies to the audience of our forum. You'll encounter players that have opinions that you totally disagree with, and topics that are controversial. You are entitled to your opinion. We ask, however, that every forum participant respects the views of other players. Agree to disagree, discuss and argue constructively -- do not resort to name-calling or slanderous accusations. Let your arguments speak for themselves without taking it to a personal level. Flames are discouraged, personal attacks and insults are a violation of the forum guidelines. Attack a player's statement, do not attack the player himself.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 07:32:09 AM
There was no 'personal' attack, any attack was made in the spirit of posturing and seeking the upper ground for the war. In my eyes a personal attack would be to say something about somones personal life.

The intent of this thread is between two alliances which are seeking war, it would be absurd to assume that people will not be attacked, what I think matters is the intent of the attack.

I reject your arguement that a forum rule has been broken and will seek clarification from Matt when I see him pop up on skype.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 07:37:00 AM
Hen: I am not your boy.

To the above post:  why don't you stop name calling and  'grow a pair' and post your game name ;)
why dont you just war with Time? Cluck cluck cluck.......
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 07:49:53 AM
There was no 'personal' attack, any attack was made in the spirit of posturing and seeking the upper ground for the war. In my eyes a personal attack would be to say something about somones personal life.

The intent of this thread is between two alliances which are seeking war, it would be absurd to assume that people will not be attacked, what I think matters is the intent of the attack.

I reject your arguement that a forum rule has been broken and will seek clarification from Matt when I see him pop up on skype.

You see there you go again. I did not say you "attacked" him personally. You appear to be implying I accused you of attacking him personally. I never did that.  The rule does say "Let your arguments speak for themselves without taking it to a personal level." It does say "Attack a player's statement, do not attack the player himself."

You took your statements to a personal level by trying to denigrate Kaork's character when you called him a boy.

Please re-read my post. You appear to be over reacting.

Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 08:05:11 AM
It's traditional in these threads (ever since the last one) to include a "Peanut Gallery" for players who aren't directly affected by the conflict but enjoy taking the piss and stirring things up ..
.. is it ok if I take the mick out of a few folk who have posted .. or should I keep my beak out ?
and has the war kicked off yet ?
..
yours curiously .. Meek :)
why change a habit of a lifetime ...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 08:14:56 AM
why change a habit of a lifetime ...

We Enjoy the "peanut gallery" they add so much more to the discussion
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 19, 2012, 08:22:25 AM
that is true. but there is no discussion being made right now. only people saying this and that. from  what i have seen so far. there is some validation to koark wanting both times being at war with them. since it would prevent member of both flowing from one to another. from what was posted here it seems to be a problem. if its not then Time put it in the terms that no member will leave while at war. you will stand your ground.

if this will be abided by then koark has no other option then to accept. it seems he wanted the war with Time but for the the reason who knows. if he wants to go to war with both then that is something else. then i guess everyone is out of luck. it also seems that many members of koarks alliance all going into d mode. i would put if 25% are in d mode then the war is over. this should solve all the problems i see right now.

however no discussions have been made. one person says something then 4 others come on to say hes being stupid or a liar. regardless of the truth this is what is happening here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 08:41:26 AM
You see there you go again. I did not say you "attacked" him personally. You appear to be implying I accused you of attacking him personally. I never did that.  The rule does say "Let your arguments speak for themselves without taking it to a personal level." It does say "Attack a player's statement, do not attack the player himself."

You took your statements to a personal level by trying to denigrate Kaork's character when you called him a boy.

Please re-read my post. You appear to be over reacting.



Are you telling me that Kaork is not a boy?
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 08:50:28 AM
He is clearly a big girl ..or at least her blouse..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
He is clearly a big girl ..or at least her blouse..
Mature.

Are you telling me that Kaork is not a boy?

Really? I can see your bored. Let me add some real content. Something you have yet to provide.

that is true. but there is no discussion being made right now. only people saying this and that. from  what i have seen so far. there is some validation to koark wanting both times being at war with them. since it would prevent member of both flowing from one to another. from what was posted here it seems to be a problem. if its not then Time put it in the terms that no member will leave while at war. you will stand your ground.

if this will be abided by then koark has no other option then to accept. it seems he wanted the war with Time but for the the reason who knows. if he wants to go to war with both then that is something else. then i guess everyone is out of luck. it also seems that many members of koarks alliance all going into d mode. i would put if 25% are in d mode then the war is over. this should solve all the problems i see right now.

however no discussions have been made. one person says something then 4 others come on to say hes being stupid or a liar. regardless of the truth this is what is happening here.

You have very valid points. If there were a way to prevent "officer exchanges" between Time and time, then perhaps Ω 4K could come to some compromise with Time/time. Perhaps turn off recruiting for both alliances, if there were a way for BFG to ensure this was a "FACT" instead of some plausible reality during a war scenario. The only problem I foresee in this event is a sudden surge from one alliance to another before the actual acceptance of a "war" agreement. Something that can be determined by a cursory investigation by BFG of the database using simple query routines.

The 25% (d) mode would of course need to be discussed within both alliances, should little time not be included in any conditions and excluded as an escape mechanism for damaged, defunct, defeated Time players.

I do not know if there is a routine associated with the 'war' request that prevents recruiting from being turned on or off. That maybe a feature request to enhance the gameplay.

Not being a leader of any alliance I would not know the options available and controllable in a specific scenario.

And just for the record, someone 'saying' they will not do something is just asking for me to sell you beach front property in Arizona.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 19, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
this is exactly what im talking about. nothing is going on here. both sides need to just suck it up and stop putting the other side down.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 09:01:40 AM
this is exactly what im talking about. nothing is going on here. both sides need to just suck it up and stop putting the other side down.

But that IS how the other side plays
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 09:01:50 AM
For the record i am not on any side.

Koark wants a war with Time. He wants to include their training alliance .. All ranked lower than 5k ... You have to ask why.. Time have said noone will move between alluances during the war ..

Time have accepted the war request by issuing their own to 4k ....

Koark should not be a hypocrite about wanting war then backing off when it potentially looks to ge a tough one... Man or mouse? I have some cheese for him.

If Koark hadnt started this whining hread about wanting a war only under his conditions and backed off at a rate of knots when chalenged i might have some sympathy for the guy/boy/girl but i dont.

Quite simply he is running scared and it is blatantly obvious. Put your fleet where your mouth is
Koark ....otherwise just shut up ...

All i see is him finding exscuses not to while spiuting crap... All talk no action... Poor leadership...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 09:05:53 AM


And just for the record, someone 'saying' they will not do something is just asking for me to sell you beach front property in Arizona.

That is where you use these forums and the gallery as a referee.
We have already recalled our Officers from time and put in a suspension of officer transfers.

this is exactly what im talking about. nothing is going on here. both sides need to just suck it up and stop putting the other side down.

Its all part of the pre war fun. It was goin on by PMs in game before Kaorky made this thread prematurely. Hopefullyt there will be some real battle content soon.


All i see is him finding exscuses not to while spiuting crap... All talk no action... Poor leadership...

+1  ;D

But that IS how the other side plays

May I ask who first sent out a mass PM accusing me of something that was untrue without any evidence or substance to the allegation? Kaork set the tone from very early on.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 09:08:04 AM
For the record i am not on any side.

Koark wants a war with Time. He wants to include their training alliance .. All ranked lower than 5k ... You have to ask why.. Time have said noone will move between alluances during the war ..

Time have accepted the war request by issuing their own to 4k ....

Koark should not be a hypocrite about wanting war then backing off when it potentially looks to ge a tough one... Man or mouse? I have some cheese for him.

If Koark hadnt started this whining hread about wanting a war only under his conditions and backed off at a rate of knots when chalenged i might have some sympathy for the guy/boy/girl but i dont.

Quite simply he is running scared and it is blatantly obvious. Put your fleet where your mouth is
Koark ....otherwise just shut up ...

All i see is him finding exscuses not to while spiuting crap... All talk no action... Poor leadership...

Yes, you are the 'peanut gallery'. I would suggest you proof read your post as well. I find them hard to read, but perhaps that is because you are doing a two finger tap dance on a smart phone. I will ignore future post from you
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 09:26:34 AM
That is where you use these forums and the gallery as a referee.
We have already recalled our Officers from time and put in a suspension of officer transfers.

Its all part of the pre war fun. It was goin on by PMs in game before Kaorky made this thread prematurely. Hopefullyt there will be some real battle content soon.

+1  ;D

May I ask who first sent out a mass PM accusing me of something that was untrue without any evidence or substance to the allegation? Kaork set the tone from very early on.

I can not attest to the foresight of my alliance leader in sending MASS PM's. Mistakes may have been made under pressure of our new merger. Tickets have been submitted, reviewed, weighed, and found wanting. The fact that you continue to 'harp' on them will prevent the accusations brought forth from fading into the past. Yes, the doubt has been sown and the seed is barren. Let it go. Move on. Be happy that nothing can be proven.

As for the recall. Yep, we saw the change in membership. Your poor training alliance just had all its experienced teachers sucked out to a war which has yet to start. They lie vulnerable to exploits which have yet to be visited upon them. Will they all go (d) for you? Is this what Time is about? To abandon those they would tutor.

The Ω 4K would not do this.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 09:39:48 AM
time have their own set of officers which are more than capable of teaching the newer members how to play without assistance. Their officers come from various backgrounds in the game so a wide variety of assistance is still avaliable. We can also still assist through the FB group and the skype rooms. They are not abandoned in any way.

Kaork smeared my name falsely to a buddy list with a lot of people on it. All he needs to do is retract that original message and it need not be brought up again.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 09:47:41 AM
time have their own set of officers which are more than capable of teaching the newer members how to play without assistance. Their officers come from various backgrounds in the game so a wide variety of assistance is still avaliable. We can also still assist through the FB group and the skype rooms. They are not abandoned in any way.

Kaork smeared my name falsely to a buddy list with a lot of people on it. All he needs to do is retract that original message and it need not be brought up again.

I will converse with my leader.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 19, 2012, 01:55:55 PM
I agree this board has been hijacked by 'he said she said' so let me bring everyone back to the point of this thread.

This was to in lighten the forum members to the posibilities of war between The Dark Sphere and Time/time.

Since there is no way to insure that Time would uphold there word of no intent to transfer members into time.  As they are known for saying one thing yet doing another (refrence hen's contradictions all over this forum board for proof) and they aren't going to accept the war under both tags then as far as a official war is considered we are at a impass.  I want it to be known that these terms of going to war with both alliance was in no way intended for the dark sphere to wiggle out of war with Time.  I believe my record of standing up to Time and other bigger alliances and blowing up ships rest in my history and actions (reference the last Time leaders heph and VtC here).  The Dark sphere is un-officially officially at war with Time and time and it is Times choice to back down on the targets based on wanting to save them for the official war they continue to deny if they want.   We will continue to engage them and protect our members and stand up to the #1 controdicting Bully alliance in the game.

I hope that has cleared up everything.

Kaork
The Dark Sphere tell the end of Time
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
Yep... Still says you wont go to war with Time becuase you are scared .... As for Rogan yes i am on a smartphone , and i cant be bothered checking my typing .... Ignore me if you want i dont care i still maintain your alliance is running scared.

I dont see why you dont just war with Time and be done with it instead of crap rhetoric from your leader ...

Put ypur fleets where your mouths are ... But you wont .... Too scared...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 05:43:27 PM
Yep... Still says you wont go to war with Time becuase you are scared .... As for Rogan yes i am on a smartphone , and i cant be bothered checking my typing .... Ignore me if you want i dont care i still maintain your alliance is running scared.

I dont see why you dont just war with Time and be done with it instead of crap rhetoric from your leader ...

Put ypur fleets where your mouths are ... But you wont .... Too scared...

I see your spelling has improved, bravo.

As for scared? ... I am here, this is my in game name, and there are my fleets. Come get them if you can.

I do not see any commander in game by your name, therefore your name here is nothing more than an alias which you 'hide' behind, just like a child hides behind the skirts of a woman. Do you also check under the bed, or in the closet, for the boogie man? Is the night light on when all others are out? These are questions for which those who care may never know.

NO, no do not reply. Your actions are more than enough evidence of your intentions. Happy trolling
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: millsman on May 19, 2012, 07:11:56 PM
I have a solution for the issues at hand.  Below are the facts and current positions of the alliances involved as I understand them.

1) 'Time' has issued a war request to Ω 4K.
2) Ω 4K is concerned that people will begin swapping from 'time' to 'Time' in order to gang up on Ω 4K.  So Ω 4K wants to preempt this and have war declared against both 'Time' and 'time' as they believe they will be fighting both alliances anyway. 
3) 'time' does not want to go to war with Ω 4K (training alliance only).

SOLUTION
Post the player names for both the 'Time' and 'time' alliances here as a matter of record prior to the war.   If any tag swapping occurs, then do a print screen and post it here. That should prevent anyone from swapping.  For fairness, Ω 4K should also post its members here.  Look at it as a courtesy target list for the alliance you are at war with. 

Problem solved.  Happy hunting!!!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: lazoputz on May 19, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
Well, I dont think the problem is quite THAT simple, but it is a viable solution, if it were.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 19, 2012, 09:13:20 PM
Just go to war with Time.

Stop bleating ....

Enough people here have told you the same thing ... Stop picking on the little guys in time and man up you lot..

Oh and theusual bravado crap about come find my fleet etc etc  is just useless rhetoric.... I am not in Time , i dont have a beef with you or yours .. I justnthink you can solve this by warring with Time then post your battle reports to,prove your capabilities.... Other than that its just all talk ...



Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mephistopheles on May 19, 2012, 09:45:35 PM
Way too much ePEEN and not enough reality. I find it funny that nobodies in real life think that they are something special in the e'verse and act like the old USSR when in actuality they are more like Costa Rica, which has no military forces.

HAVE FUN WITH THAT ONE.

Just go to war with Time and quit the bloody whining!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 19, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
Timelord. Hard to have fun with what you said when I don't even understand what you said.  As I've said please reference my previous post.

GK: please reference my back side. :P

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mephistopheles on May 19, 2012, 11:03:05 PM
POINT PROVEN!

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 11:10:52 PM
Only small but I will start the battle reports off. This is the second member of 4000 I have caught in as many weeks attacking from planets instead of the moons they have attached to the planet.

The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Henrietta with 255,000,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hades : 2999 (Lost: 1 of 3000)
** Resources lost: 30,000 ore, 40,000 crystal, and 15,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 6,245

*****Defender: bledsokiller with 6,245,500 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Helios : 0 (Lost: 41 of 41)
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 5 of 5)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 2 of 2)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 5 of 5)
Ares : 0 (Lost: 8 of 8)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 40 of 40)
Missile : 0 (Lost: 125 of 125)
Laser : 0 (Lost: 19 of 19)
Pulse : 0 (Lost: 2 of 2)
Particle : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Decoy : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Gauss : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Large decoy: 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Plasma : 0 (Lost: 2 of 2)
** Ship Resources lost: 3,097,000 ore, 2,404,000 crystal, and 744,500 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 3,569,500 ore, 2,598,500 crystal, and 806,500 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 85
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 19, 2012, 11:37:22 PM
yes we have instructed him to attack from his newly formed moon before you hit him at leasts 1 week ago. he has yet to get in the habit of setting up attacks from that tool.

We do not separate those that need training from the main group. We feel that we can better assist them in learning if they are part of the main. Bledsoe will hopefully learn from his mistakes and gain a better understanding of the mechanics on attacking from his moon from now on. Thank you for assisting us in his training.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 19, 2012, 11:44:39 PM
You have your wires crossed I think.

This is the first time I recall landing an attack on this guy. You are thinking of when i took out Trickster and gave him a moon possibly?

I would like to see what is going to happen to him considering that your whole alliance was told this by Sean Mackay.

Quote
#2 If you are caught attacking from a planet when you have a moon during this war I will personally boot you from this alliance and deal with the aftermath later.
I don't intend on losing a war because "you" were stupid and did not respect your fleet. Two guys have been reprimanded for this in the past 2 weeks. One of them lost a zeus over it. Be advised, we are in a war against this games top players so if you aren't in dip like has been stated above, and a stupid mistake costs us a war, expect yourself to be finding a new alliance.

We are unofficially officiallyt at war according to Kaorky so lets see what happens here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 20, 2012, 12:18:41 AM
Koark with all your misspellings and misuse of words....and considering your a spineless coward...I think more people here think of you as the "retarded kid down the street."
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 20, 2012, 12:32:17 AM


Koark with all your misspellings and misuse of words....and considering your a spineless coward...I think more people here think of you as the "retarded kid down the street."

Oh look another who wishes to elevate the discussion to adult levels.

You have your wires crossed I think.

This is the first time I recall landing an attack on this guy. You are thinking of when i took out Trickster and gave him a moon possibly?

I would like to see what is going to happen to him considering that your whole alliance was told this by Sean Mackay.

We are unofficially officiallyt at war according to Kaorky so lets see what happens here.

We posted the hit on Trickster on our boards. He mentioned he intentionally sent the ships that formed the moon in hopes you would attack. You are so predictable. He thanked you for your diligence in our boards. I think it has been removed in favor of more current events. You may have that in you're data dump of our boards provided by your informant, but your data is getting old --- almost a week or two. Has your informant left our fun little alliance? We used an attack by Asimov as an example for NOT launching from a planet... Sean caught him doing so and instructed him and the rest of the alliance at the same time not to do this in a war as OLocks were possible. You should know that as experienced as you are.

I think I will return the training favor upon time... let me see where they are lacking unless they of course they all go (d) ... Think they can sustain their interest in the game in perpetual DIP mode? I would see your training alliance wither on the vine ...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
POINT PROVEN!

THANK YOU!


Glade I could make your point... whatever point that was??!?

Wouldn't time be infinant?  Or we're you at the understanding that when Time is beaten, time really stops?  I could see how you would have that confused as you see yourself smarter and better than others others.   Must be nice living in that awesome brain of your higher and mightier then anyone else to the point you believe you speak on a higher level of converstation that know one else understands.  Charles Manson was also smarter than everyone, so he thought.  Of course the retarded kid down the street that doesn't know the difference in ice cream and hot dog thinks he is to.  Doesn't make it true, but at least he has an exscuse, whats yours?

K



Lub has always been an adult in all his dealings with me Roger.  Oh wait... or do I have that wrong, my memory fails me?   I remember faintly some promise of blowing up omega ships, it was soooo long ago I'm having a hard time remembering.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 02:19:43 AM
From an ally of The Dark sphere and a friend of mine in the universal war on Time.


To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-20 01:54:22 UTC
Does this help??

Xxx led an attack on JamesG at Jordan ‎‎[xx:xxx:x].
The following emerged from battle after 5 Round(s)

*****Attacker: xxx*****
Apollo : 1015 (Lost: 1006 of 2021)
Poseidon : 472 (Lost: 175 of 647)
Athena : 6238 (Lost: 296 of 6534)
Ares : 1031 (Lost: 22 of 1053)
Hades : 5776 (Lost: 147 of 5923)
Prometheus : 1679 (Lost: 21 of 1700)
** Resources lost: 29,626,000 ore, 15,660,000 crystal, and 3,200,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 305,196

*****Defender: JamesG*****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 150 of 150)
Helios : 0 (Lost: 54 of 54)
Artemis : 0 (Lost: 4531 of 4531)
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 581 of 581)
Apollo : 0 (Lost: 350 of 350)
Charon : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 347 of 347)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 417 of 417)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 601 of 601)
Gaia : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 1560 of 1560)
Ares : 0 (Lost: 189 of 189)
Hades : 0 (Lost: 813 of 813)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 501 of 501)
Zeus : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Missile : 0 (Lost: 10100 of 10100)
Laser : 0 (Lost: 1000 of 1000)
Pulse : 0 (Lost: 148 of 148)
Particle : 0 (Lost: 107 of 107)
Decoy : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Gauss : 0 (Lost: 202 of 202)
Large decoy: 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Plasma : 0 (Lost: 59 of 59)
** Ship Resources lost: 174,241,000 ore, 105,336,000 crystal, and 25,619,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 204,093,000 ore, 112,814,000 crystal, and 27,793,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 48,486

After 5 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 1,174,141 ore, 1,707,247 crystal, and 964,823 hydrogen.
JamesG (DEFENDER) lost 344,498 RSP and gained 47,983 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 344,498 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 174,241,000 ore, 105,336,000 crystal, and 25,619,000 hydrogen in ship damages.
* Lost 29,852,000 ore, 7,478,000 crystal, and 2,174,000 hydrogen in defense damages.
* Lost 204,093,000 ore, 112,814,000 crystal, and 27,793,000 hydrogen in total damages.
Start End Lost 150 0 150 54 0 54 4531 0 4531 581 0 581 350 0 350 1 0 1 347 0 347 417 0 417 601 0 601 1 0 1 1560 0 1560 813 0 813 189 0 189 501 0 501 1 0 1 10100 0 10100 1000 0 1000 107 0 107 148 0 148 1 0 1 202 0 202 1 0 1 59 0 59 xxx(ATTACKER) lost 47,983 RSP and gained 304,994 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 1,237,696 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 29,626,000 ore, 15,660,000 crystal, and 3,200,000 hydrogen in ship damages.
Start End Lost 2021 1015 1006 647 472 175 6534 6238 296 5923 5776 147 1053 1031 22 1700 1679 21 Some of the enemy's defenses were rebuilt.
61,160,100 ore and 36,298,800 crystal are now floating at this location.
There was a 20.0% chance that a moon would form from the debris.
However, no moon formed.
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 20, 2012, 02:29:17 AM
Booyah!!!

go Commander Osirus

Thanks for the inspiration
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
roger, Roger.   What's your victor, over.

I can see the Skype session between Matt and TomL tonight. 

Oh and by the way Hen. The parser that was 'brought to matt's attention' for your FYI is the BFG approved firefly parser.  Doesnt Time have a parser of there own with heph tracking and some other fun cool tools?  Just asking, not like I would know or anything.  I dont have direct connection to your boards and BFG employees.

Ps. Just to save time I posted this in my boards incase you want to read it twice.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 20, 2012, 02:44:43 AM
well correct me if im wrong but they did an attack on your alliance and here you post a battle report of someone outside of your alliance on them and want to say "Booyah"? you have no right to say booyah unless you were part of the attack. you had nothing to do with it. you received nothing except a time player lost ships.

also you left out who the attacker was.

still a nice hit, too bad your alliance didnt do it. point 1 for time still. allies dont count.


furthermore if there is a so called universal war on time why arent you officially at war with them?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 02:48:07 AM
Oh how wrong you are.  You will find that this official non- official war that Time has put itself in will have several advantages.  One including, they have caused such an up-roar in the uni with this bullying and begging for wars and now that a weak spot has been found and rubbed in their faces that many will now hunt all Time and time.   Since this is an un-official war then any allies most certainly do count as this is no regualar war for points.  This will be a war of many against the #1 bully alliance in the game.  Anyone wanna join in on the fun? :)

Stay tuned more to come
K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 20, 2012, 02:56:13 AM
well correct me if im wrong but they did an attack on your alliance and here you post a battle report of someone outside of your alliance on them and want to say "Booyah"? you have no right to say booyah unless you were part of the attack. you had nothing to do with it. you received nothing except a time player lost ships.

also you left out who the attacker was.

still a nice hit, too bad your alliance didnt do it. point 1 for time still. allies dont count.


furthermore if there is a so called universal war on time why arent you officially at war with them?

I edited my post to include Commander Osirus, thanking him for the inspiration. Even though Ω 4K may not have participated in the actual devastation of 300K DSP worth of ships. It was extremely satisfying to see the 97Mil DF on location as a result of inclusion of Friendly's in our UN-official war on Time
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 20, 2012, 02:58:02 AM
this may be true but whats the point. it serves no alliance any good. only individuals since this may be an unofficial war. never the less why not make it official and get more recognition for your alliance if you seem to be this sure of yourself. or is what time said correct, you got no balls.

as a person in the peanut gallery, what is said here is what i base my opinion on. so far your alliance seems to be a lot of talk. their alliance as well may be. but if they are the ones that wanted the official war and you arent accepting but going to fight them anyway or have your "allies" fight them instead for you as you have clearly demonstrated from the battle report above then its no wonder you dont want to officially accept a war from them. they will kill you all.

so since your alliance has no chance you are going this route, the unofficial way to get their alliance down.

i was waiting for something to happen, more than the chit chat of before, now that some things have happened, the chit chat seems oh so true.  you guys go no balls.


they may be bullies but you guys still got no balls.


at rogan, in that case, your statement holds very true. good job
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 20, 2012, 02:59:42 AM
oh is this commander osirus from the -TSW- alliance? so i would assume it was and is his heph at the bottom of the system or at the least the attacker?  i do hope that db gets pickted up
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 03:10:04 AM
The point is quite simple:  Time will go down just like it did 3 years ago the last time Time played with me.  Simple as that. Nothing more nothing less.

Balls?  Mine hang low and get used often, thanks for inquiring though a little odd.  How are yours?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 20, 2012, 03:45:21 AM
that may be true. they may go down as they did 3 years ago if that is true, it was also at the very beginning of the game. either way, the truth seems to be also that you wont have any part in it but your allies will. mine are fine. im higher ranked than you and could take you on easy. ive got without revealing too much who i am got more than 1/6 of your entire alliances dsp. just me alone. so yeah i got balls. you on the other hand only have what 2mil. but regardless if you had balls and really thought yourself the hot stuff you seem to you would make an official war against time. i mean they are gonna fall anyway right? might as well make your alliance look good while doing it right? but you wont, cause you cant.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 04:14:21 AM
You seem to have a mis conception.  Let me help you out.

My ally's aren't fighting for me, they fight with me.

For the rest please reference previous post of war terms sent to Time in which they deny.  Maybe one day you'll understand that I'm not gonna allow the alliance to hide behind a curtain for an official war with me.   They want to war with me then they will do it under both tags.  If they do that, then the war will be official.  Go wine to them.

Question.   What rank do you think we were to Time when we took the leaders heph and 1st officers main Mac for over 300mil in Debry that same weekend?   Thats a big Debry fields don't care who ya are. 

Glade you got a set of balls on yah.   You didn't inform me if they are ever used or not so I assume not.  Shame... set of waisted balls.  Everyone should use theirs.

I will continue to ask Time/time for thier official war they have begged me for yet denied.   Until then me and my Allaince and our ally's will continue to splash ships.

You see there are two coins to every story.  Is Time not big enough to protect time?  I should say I would hope over 100 members all ranked over 5k could protect little time.  Why not send several officers over to little time and fight under both tags?  Wouldn't that be war with us from two very strong alliances forcing us to fight on two fronts?   Surely all you smart people have thought of this but instead you want to sit in here and call me names and bash my smaller ranked players.   Seems like it is Time who 'has no balls' as you put it to me mate.   

I know I know. Little time has never war'd and never will.   Guess what, that is false information as they did go to war with someone a couple of years ago.  Futhermore guess what else.  I have never war'd with the number one alliance in the game yet I'm perfectly willing to do it under these terms.  It Would seem smart of Time to want to train thier training alliance in war against such a 'no balled alliance' as you call us but it would seem they fail to want to do anything more then sit in this board all day and drop p tokens.  We have a name for those in our alliance as i'm sure the hen has read.  Funny he doesn't post that!

K

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: millsman on May 20, 2012, 05:17:03 AM
A solution was offered to get the war going and it was summarily ignored.  Lots of hot air in here. And it's clearly evident which direction that hot air is blowing from.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 20, 2012, 05:38:47 AM
I was just looking at the Database and it appears that well over 50% (probably closer to 75%) of Omega-4000 are either in Dip or going to Dip... In an "official war" that would probably make them lose the war by default... Game over for the O4K... Oh, and VTC says "Hello" to Kaork... :P
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 20, 2012, 06:12:48 AM
I was just looking at the Database and it appears that well over 50% (probably closer to 75%) of Omega-4000 are either in Dip or going to Dip... In an "official war" that would probably make them lose the war by default... Game over for the O4K... Oh, and VTC says "Hello" to Kaork... :P

we actually have 65% in some form of dip mode, but it was a holiday in some parts of the world and we actually have real lives and family that we pay more attention to than little ole puddy cats like you.

Look to next weekend for the American counterparts to the English and Canadian players to be swapping positions. We like to honor those that gave their lives so that people like you could express their ideas freely without persecution.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 20, 2012, 07:57:10 AM

I can see the Skype session between Matt and TomL tonight.  and the point in this comment is? I think me and Matt spoke the whole of about 24 words and one smiley face last night.

Oh and by the way Hen. The parser that was 'brought to matt's attention' for your FYI is the BFG approved firefly parser. Excuse me? What am I supposed to have done? I havent told anyone about darksphereofomega4000.com  or its contents. This is you yet again sprouting your mouth off before establishing the facts and making you look like a fool.  Doesnt Time have a parser of there own with heph tracking and some other fun cool tools? In short, No. The parser we use is the bang! parser that I host on my server, yet it is very public to use.  Just asking, not like I would know or anything.  I dont have direct connection We do not have a "direct" connection to your forums either, we have to wait for people to send us stuff, although that has dried up as of late. to your boards and BFG employees. Everyone has access to Matt H, he spreads himself around (he has a part time job on a street corner on Tuesday nights  ;)) and people are more than welcome to add him to skype to discuss game matters or use the SFC group chats on skype or join the SFC addicts group on facebook. To imply that I have a connection with BFG is wrong. I have no more of a connection with BFG then anyone else who actively plays the game.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 20, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
I also congratulate Commander Osirus on his hit, well played sir.

However, what has that got to do with Time vs 4000? None of your members were involved. That would be a bit like me posting that Kenneth hit one of your guys and claiming it as a Time victory. There is no relevance between that attack and our war.

I am glad that Zuk also sees the talk and no action that you guys are comin up with.

Also, I just wanted to ask Rogan to keep better records. The other person I attacked last week was Jim Rambo, when he had a moon but did not use it, he attacked from his planet instead. Not Asimov.

Anyway, the farmer will be along any moment now with the chicken feed, so I better leave you guys to your breakfast.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 20, 2012, 08:08:17 AM

GK: please reference my back side. :P

K
At least its easy to see.... Its got a big yellow stripe down it and a pile of brown stuff at its ankles...

You sir. , as i have said before ,do not have the stength of your convictions otherwise you would war with Time ... But you wont ... Cheese?
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 20, 2012, 08:20:05 AM

Look to next weekend for the American counterparts to the English and Canadian players to be swapping positions. We like to honor those that gave their lives so that people like you could express their ideas freely without persecution.
i think comments like this , and i have huge respect and admiration for our armed forces past and present , have no place in a game like this. I think it is in poor taste to put that kind of thing in here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 20, 2012, 10:21:54 AM
we actually have 65% in some form of dip mode, but it was a holiday in some parts of the world and we actually have real lives and family that we pay more attention to than little ole puddy cats like you.

Look to next weekend for the American counterparts to the English and Canadian players to be swapping positions. We like to honor those that gave their lives so that people like you could express their ideas freely without persecution.

An Omega-4000 planet name:    Going D to honor US Vets    Junior Commodore Coma V #1,529    !

What gets me is that they want to honor the veterans, yet will not go to war themselves... Can anyone spell "hypocrite"?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Continued name calling instead of finding a solution.   Blah blah blah blah.

'A solution was offered'?  You mean the one in which I'd have to trust your word? Roflmao.  Go (insert funny paradigm here) yourself.   Time has never honard there word.

Yes a solution has been offered.   Either fight under both flags or I don't. I don't really care but this is what I will demand.   The ball is in your court no matter how many names you sit back and call me, attacking me personally in these boards.

Hit on time by an ally:    The ship losses are the same.  The reason for them (the Hen).  If it makes you feel better tell yourself anything you want.  Keep telling yourself that when your members from both alliances start crying because everyone in the uni is sitting on top of them.   You have taken this to far and you will find this is no conventional war.   We are changing the name of the Game and i will continue to post hits i recieve in pm, even if it does make your (insert another funny paradigm, another name for cat) hurt.    So prepare yourselves, it's going to be fun.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 20, 2012, 04:42:46 PM
Continued name calling instead of finding a solution.   Blah blah blah blah.

'A solution was offered'?  You mean the one in which I'd have to trust your word? Roflmao.  Go (insert funny paradigm here) yourself.   Time has never honard there word. How have we never honoured our word?

Yes a solution has been offered.   Either fight under both flags or I don't. I don't really care but this is what I will demand. Powermad emporer Kaork go rwarg if he doest get his way, or will just start sprouting untruths again.  The ball is in your court no matter how many names you sit back and call me, attacking me personally in these boards. No, the ball is in your court, you have the war request sat in your inbox. The ball is also in your court in respect of gaining a decent reputation rather than the one currently spiraling down in estimations. Either your fight, or your are a coward. They are the options.

Hit on time by an ally:    The ship losses are the same. No they are not, read the thread title again. The war is between 4k and Time. If people are that desperate to fight us, get them to join your alliance before you hit accept and no member transfers for either alliance are allowed.    The reason for them (the Hen). Urrrm no, the reason is that this is a war game. People loose ships. Period.  If it makes you feel better tell yourself anything you want.  Keep telling yourself that when your members from both alliances start crying because everyone in the uni is sitting on top of them. By everyone in the uni, who are you refering to as so far you have almost 0 support on these forums. If you have these so called supportes, they do not want to be seen supporting you in public.    You have taken this to far and you will find this is no conventional war. How have I taken it too far?  We are changing the name of the Game I think BFG might not like that  ::)and i will continue to post hits i recieve in pm, even if it does make your (insert another funny paradigm, another name for cat) hurt.    So prepare yourselves, it's going to be fun. Yawn. You can say its going to be fun all you like, but you are not even doing anything. You have to get others to do it for you.


Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
Yeah.  I understand.  The last Time leader and team all said the same thing.  Right before he heard his heph and ships go kaboom.   Have fun and make it a great day ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 07:09:23 PM
Hahahaha.  Boy these guys try everything.  What's wrong Time?  Your plans of bullying and begging, pleading and bargaining, harrasment and bashing, propaganda and sh*t talking, direct communication with BFG, and reading my boards not working.  Now your trying to recruits my members too.   Roflmao at Time, time and time again all day long

I see they are trying to recruit - Recieved this message.



To: Lily White
Date: 2012-05-19 20:16:53 UTC
I have to say you lasted longer then most of your leadership. Even with war looming around the corner you stayed out of D Mode till now. My hat is off to you. I would like to offer my friendship to you as a Commander of Time. I respect you as that you did not run to D Mode like your leaders did. My Name is Bob and If you ever want to join Time i will Help back you into Time. Bob
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: millsman on May 20, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
Kaork, I'm not with Time or time. I offered a solution.  You ignored it.  If they don't keep their word, then you have ammo to make them look bad for not keeping their word.  And the forum will remember that. 

What in the world are you afraid of?  You say that you are going to be attacked by time if you go to war with Time.  So you want a war request with both.  What exactly does that achieve?  Most of time's ranks are less than 5000 save for the officers.  How exactly is going to war with Time and then having the big bad little time join in hurt you?  Are you that concerned their lower ranks will tip the balance?  It goes against all logic.  You really don't want a war. 

I actually respected you for a while.  You exchanged words with some of my leadership but I gave you the benefit of the doubt because you were actually decent towards me.  But now I see the light.  Time isn't kidding when they say they have alliance after alliance filling their inbox to join the war on their side.  Mine is among them.  But you will not accept their war request just like you didn't with another alliance recently. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 20, 2012, 09:57:57 PM
I didnt ignore it, in fact i aswered it within mins of the post.  And me posting on the forum this or that would accomplish what exactly?  The forum would remeber?  Who gives a crap about what the forum remembers?  On the other hand I'll continue what is best for my alliance and that is to continue standing up for what we believe in.  Right now that's a war with both tags or fight un-officially.  Why don't time just accept the war and let's see if we war with Time?   If they did and we didn't accept then you might have a valid point but until that day comes you to get the middle finger for your comments  :).

Awesome. Someone else to add to the hit list.  Enjoy helping the bullies, they are gonna need it. Happy hunting
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on May 21, 2012, 01:06:01 AM
I'm a bit of a late comer, so please excuse me if I may have missed something. If I may be as bold as to suppose anyone here cares what I have to say, well, here's my piece.

To begin with, it's pretty disappointing that both sides here are resorting to slinging mud. Are we not all mature enough to have civilized discussions?

Koark with all your misspellings and misuse of words....and considering your a spineless coward...I think more people here think of you as the "retarded kid down the street."

Grammar is important too Lubed Guyballer (since, while some of us may have spineless cowards in our possession, Kaork doesn't strike me as the kind of person to keep someone locked in the basement). As for the "retarded kid" remark, just remember that some day the cryptography that you've come to rely on (whether you're consciously aware of it or not) may be broken by someone who's "retarded" but see's math in a way that few "normal" folks can comprehend. As to being a spineless coward, would you not qualify as one as well then? I seem to recall getting hit by you several times when I was ~6k rank, but unfortunately the time has since passed for me to post battle reports as proof.


Now, to the issue at hand: the O 4K - TIME/time conflict.

Based upon my current knowledge, the situation arose due to high ranking members of Time picking on low ranked O4k members with a possible account compromise in play as well. As words and attacks were exchanged, more alliance members were pulled in on both sides, eventually resulting in a formal war proposition from Time. Kaork declined, and resent a request to both Time and time. Those propositions were rejected on the premise that the war should not include time.

Neither side can be faulted in regards to trying to keep their members out of harms way; if anything it is to be applauded. But I call shenanigans on rejecting the war with time on the basis of it being a separate alliance. From TomL's own admittance (unless I completely misunderstood some of his posts), time is a training alliance for Time, just as Quantico trains recruits for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. While they may have separate officers, the fact that members graduate up to Time, and that officer exchanges occur on a regular basis, the fact remains that they are just another arm of Time.

The other issue involved members from Time dropping down, or time members rising up has already been resolved by Zuk's recommendation to make a list of members from both allegiances. However, the question still remains as to what to do if there's a discrepancy.

For the moment, the conflict is unofficial, with both sides taking shots at each other. While some may see it as a cowardly move, it can be justified as taking a shot at a perceived bully in am attempt to at least make them think prior to future attacks. It doesn't make sense to call us cowards for refusing to only go to war with half an alliance. If we were cowards, we wouldn't be pushing to have two fronts opened with an official record for all to see. While we might get pistol whipped for our efforts, we're at least trying rather then backing down.

We've proven that we have our big girl panties on, now its time for Time to do the same. I'm sure in the next few days more war requests will be sent if this can't be resolved diplomatically.

If anyone has a correction, please post it. If you disagree with me, post a reply or come attack me in game.

---Edit----
It appears as though time has finally accepted the war request. Kaork, please accept Times request as soon as possible
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 01:41:10 AM
Little time has accepted War with Ω 4K and risen 10 ranks since then.  hmmm. Oh well here is 1st blood in the WAR!!! and they toggled (!) 1 down ...

Rogan Lors led an attack on papi newberjh at Papi land ‎‎[x:xxx:xx].
The following emerged from battle after 3 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Rogan Lors with 8,500,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hades : 100
** Resources lost: 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 2,251

*****Defender: papi newberjh with 2,251,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0  (Lost: 15 of 15)
Helios : 0  (Lost: 25 of 25)
Artemis : 0  (Lost: 14 of 14)
Atlas : 0  (Lost: 7 of 7)
Apollo : 0  (Lost: 13 of 13)
Charon : 0  (Lost: 5 of 5)
Hercules : 0  (Lost: 26 of 26)
Dionysus : 0  (Lost: 8 of 8)
Poseidon : 0  (Lost: 22 of 22)
Athena : 0  (Lost: 5 of 5)
Ares : 0  (Lost: 6 of 6)
** Ship Resources lost: 1,355,000 ore, 728,500 crystal, and 167,500 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 1,355,000 ore, 728,500 crystal, and 167,500 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 0

After 3 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 25,000 ore, 25,000 crystal, and 25,000 hydrogen.
papi newberjh (DEFENDER) lost 2,232 RSP and gained 0 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 2,232 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 1,355,000 ore, 728,500 crystal, and 167,500 hydrogen in ship damages.
Start End Lost 15 0 15 25 0 25 14 0 14 7 0 7 13 0 13 5 0 5 26 0 26 8 0 8 22 0 22 5 0 5 6 0 6 Rogan Lors (ATTACKER) lost 0 RSP and gained 2,232 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 8,500 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in ship damages.
Start End Lost 100 100 0 406,500 ore and 219,450 crystal are now floating at this location.
There was a 4.2% chance that a moon would form from the debris.
However, no moon formed.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 21, 2012, 02:25:37 AM
Kaork is the leader of the Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 alliance which has 96 members.
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 alliance was founded on: 2012-04-29.

Total   Average
Alliance Stats   Rank   Points   Rank   Points
Overall   18   121770533   66   1268443
Building   17   77204833   67   804217
Destroyed Ships   23   41393295   71   431180
Fleet   17   1374884   59   14321
Defense   16   1703232   86   17742
Research   13   14464   48   150
Crew   6   79960   15   832
War Record Totals
Wins   Losses   Draws
0   0   0





Time your war request awaits per war terms given.  Let the games begin
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 02:32:27 AM
Elnino is the leader of the Time Wasters alliance which has 135 members.
Time Wasters alliance was founded on: 2009-09-05.

Total Average
Alliance Stats Rank Points Rank Points
Overall 1 505421805 14 3743865
Building 1 274075022 13 2030185
Destroyed Ships 2 219618898 17 1626806
Fleet 2 5367356 16 39758
Defense 3 6278050 17 46504
Research 8 23360 5 173
Crew 5 88241 21 653
War Record Totals
Wins Losses Draws
2 0 0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 02:32:40 AM
Reavers Band is the leader of the Minutemen alliance which has 110 members.
Minutemen alliance was founded on: 2009-12-03.

Total Average
Alliance Stats Rank Points Rank Points
Overall 30 88778797 118 792667
Building 30 55109916 130 492052
Destroyed Ships 29 31388203 102 280251
Fleet 29 948477 94 8468
Defense 22 1298037 133 11589
Research 12 14571 116 130
Crew 23 23933 68 213
War Record Totals
Wins Losses Draws
0 0 0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 02:45:22 AM
BFG thanks you for your donation of 200,000 credits to move your planet in order to protect your trainee. You have class in that you would expend personal income on a free to play game for your entertainment. Have a nice day

BFG, do not deny you like the cash flow.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 02:56:07 AM
I would post the follow up attacks but that would be mundane, no defenses and a little overnight build stuff. However the hydro will be put to good use. Still looking for that really big hit ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 02:57:40 AM
dang!!!
Dominatus Class Minutemen
time [116 Members]
Vice Admiral Reavers Band is the leader of the Minutemen alliance which has 116 members.
Minutemen alliance was founded on: 2009-12-03.

   Total    Average
Alliance Stats    Rank    Points    Rank    Points
Overall    24    102654922    102    900481
Building    24    62356470    117    546986
Destroyed Ships    26    37742620    90    331075
Fleet    24    1124640    84    9865
Defense    19    1392415    128    12214
Research    12    14996    114    131
Crew    19    28973    61    254
War Record Totals
Wins    Losses    Draws
0    0    0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
WHOOPS!!!!!

Deus Class Time Wasters
Time [129 Members]
Emperor Elnino is the leader of the Time Wasters alliance which has 129 members.
Time Wasters alliance was founded on: 2009-09-05.

   Total    Average
Alliance Stats    Rank    Points    Rank    Points
Overall    1    485850129    14    3737308
Building    2    262433390    13    2018718
Destroyed Ships    2    212134849    17    1631806
Fleet    2    5097520    16    39211
Defense    3    6108005    17    46984
Research    8    22442    6    172
Crew    5    82070    23    631
War Record Totals
Wins    Losses    Draws
2    0    0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 03:04:25 AM
I'll let the numbers talk for themselves
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 03:24:46 AM
Sigh it has been 3.5 hrs already and Time has not accepted .... do you guys sleep?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 21, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
so now all three alliances will be going to war then?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 03:51:19 AM
we await Big Time to pull up its britches
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 05:01:02 AM
dang resources tooo, thanks to my buddy down there, bledsokiller,  who helped in cleaning up

Date: 2012-05-21 04:40:58 UTC
Ore: 392,700, Crystal: 198,150
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 05:08:45 AM
Can Time really protect time from itself? Lets see how many credits BFG gets from the combined Alliances of Time/time
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 21, 2012, 06:45:43 AM
Time will only tell.


Sent Requests (1)
Alliance Name   Alliance Tag   Members   Actions
[WAR]  Time Wasters
1,000,000 pts
Inactives: FALSE   Time    126   
Cancel

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Major Overkill on May 21, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
Cant say i or Morat will be happy, trying to steal our thunder with a new war thread  ???
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 21, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
dont worry majoroverkill ur thunder def has not been stolen. your thread is by far more interesting on a much higher level of sophistication as well.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 21, 2012, 12:03:09 PM
No pleasing the peanut gallary.  Guess we are gonna have to sell better peanuts.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 21, 2012, 12:57:02 PM
well then, you should bring some of your alliance out of d mode, so we get better peanuts. thats how its done. for whatever reasons there may be. you can not talk all that and stay in d mode long.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 01:00:43 PM
Supremacy Class Minutemen
time [123 Members]
Vice Admiral Reavers Band is the leader of the Minutemen alliance which has 123 members.
Minutemen alliance was founded on: 2009-12-03.

   Total    Average
Alliance Stats    Rank    Points    Rank    Points
Overall    15    160955525    62    1308581
Building    14    86765131    84    705407
Destroyed Ships    12    70781339    54    575458
Fleet    14    1685433    62    13702
Defense    17    1684122    114    13692
Research    12    16607    101    135
Crew    18    31598    61    256
War Record Totals
Wins    Losses    Draws
0    0    0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 01:02:02 PM
Caesaris Class Time Wasters
Time [122 Members]
Emperor Elnino is the leader of the Time Wasters alliance which has 122 members.
Time Wasters alliance was founded on: 2009-09-05.

   Total    Average
Alliance Stats    Rank    Points    Rank    Points
Overall    3    430688260    15    3530231
Building    2    240351662    15    1970095
Destroyed Ships    5    179825296    19    1473977
Fleet    2    4575010    16    37500
Defense    3    5860344    16    48035
Research    10    21012    5    172
Crew    6    79812    21    654
War Record Totals
Wins    Losses    Draws
2    0    0
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 01:02:24 PM
officer exchange program at work
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 21, 2012, 01:14:56 PM
wow Time wasters did not just drop from 1 to 2 but all the way down to 3 on the boards.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on May 21, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 21, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
And still hasn't accepted the war request they begged for.  Is it true Time is trying to help time get a leg up before they accept the war they have spent so much time begging for or is it that they truely want to play duck and hide with there members so aren't even going to accept it all all?  Only time will tell.

Zek- to set a presidence and time line since it is me your so concerned with I will be in d through the next weekend. My kids get out of school for the summer on we'd and are coming up early for a long memorial day weekend with dad.   If yah got problems with that, go find another store to buy your peanuts and stop trolling here.   Trust me when I say I'll be outta dmode after next weekend and blowing up time/Time ships. Unlike many others in this game (insert Time alliance here) I stick by my words just as I've stuck by my word to honer Time a war request on the terms provided.  Will Time honer there's and accept it under both flags or continue to hide its members under another flag?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 21, 2012, 01:55:29 PM
either you were making an attempt to insult me? or you cant spell my name? or you arent referring to me?
if its the first one then, not bad. im so hurt.

if its the second one, that is a pity, that you cant spell, its not like "e" and "u" are next to each other for a small mistake.

if you are referring to me then, i do have another store to where i get my peanuts. they are good. however the peanuts here are different and i had to try them. you also did promise me better ones than the ones i already had here at "your store". but now you are kicking me out? nots just not very hospitable is it? i simply said dont stay too long. next weekend is not forever is it? so relax buddy or should i just say dude. i understand some things cant be helped. you dont have to get all defensive on everything. just you cant talk all that and then go into d mode without some talk happening regardless of the reason.

anyway, i eagerly await those tasty peanuts you promised.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 21, 2012, 02:06:34 PM
Within the Time/time family there has been discussion on what kind of war to give Kaorky and his gang. We would have prefered one direct alliance vs alliance war, but Kaork knows he wont win that way. His idea was to include time so that he had some noob members to bash who had not yet learnt how to play the game fully.

We have come up with something simple that meets both in the middle. We will only be accepting the war between time (MM) and 4000. There are two reasons for this. First of all, the 4000 guys do not have enough members out of dmode to loose 2 wars. Secondly it allows Kaork and his merry me the chance to get their own attacks in.

We realise they will not like this, but really it just simpifies the whole process. Why fight 2 wars, which will drag out rather than fighting one? He is not fighting anyone else except for those he had already wanted to fight and each attack will count towards the war rather than towards seperate wars.

We hope this will be to kaorkys satisfaction, if its not, tough.

Time attacks on 4000 can be seen at maquis-online.co.uk/4000 along with our record on your dmode members, alliance statistics, basic history (to be completed) and our insightful comments on your alliance. We prefer to post our comments their concerning the war directly, for the simple reason there is more freedom there to write what we like. Peanut gallery (including Zuk, but not this dodgy Zek guy) and 4000 guys can comment on things over there as much as they like.

For the record though, time are currently winning the war.

War with Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Victory Points
37202
Victory Points
5992
As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.

    War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
    For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
    Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 21, 2012, 03:47:26 PM

An Omega-4000 planet name:    Going D to honor US Vets    Junior Commodore Coma V #1,529    !

What gets me is that they want to honor the veterans, yet will not go to war themselves... Can anyone spell "hypocrite"?

Trying to figure out if you are an American or not.  I would lean to the NOT American based on this comment.  I chose to keep my credits and cash in my wallet instead of buying (p)uss tokens every night like you and Henrietta prefer to do on a daily basis.  I am a veteran myself, and I am not phased by your unpatriotic comments.  While American soldiers are engaged in combat working to keep the world safe, I will be drinking a few cold ones in memory of the millions of fallen soldiers this week, and enjoying the well deserved freedom my family and fellow Americans have in this great country of mine.  The freedom to go into dip mode is one I will enjoy this week.

Also, I see the "officer exchange" that Time/time have is in full force today.  For a bunch of guys/gals that said there is only limited connection between the two alliances I find it strange that little time's ranking has dropped from 36 to 15 in the last day.  I will now call your entire alliance a group of liars based on that fact alone.  Save face, just admit it.  Game On! (see you in a few days)

XOXOXO,

Coma V
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 21, 2012, 03:54:20 PM
Also, I see the "officer exchange" that Time/time have is in full force today.  For a bunch of guys/gals that said there is only limited connection between the two alliances I find it strange that little time's ranking has dropped from 36 to 15 in the last day.  I will now call your entire alliance a group of liars based on that fact alone.  Save face, just admit it.  Game On! (see you in a few days)

Oh this is no officer exchange, this is everyone who wants to move over, moving over to take part in the war. As stated above, its just makes things more simple. You get your noobs and we get our big boys war. Believe me, there is a limited connection, we cannot normally just swap back and forth as we wish.

Let me make clear though, anyone that moves into time IS NOT to move back to Time till after the war is won. The forum community has my word on that.

I will miss you Coma xxxxxx
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 21, 2012, 04:38:26 PM
Quotes From Henrietta(TomL):

"Why on earth are you targetting time? You are clearly unable to comprehend how we are two seperate alliances"

"Its not only me that went over, many officer go over on a weekly basis. I go over a lot because I run the parser, I help the newer people learn how to use it.  There is no "free flow" of membership, we are very strict on who can and cant move around."

"time have their own set of officers which are more than capable of teaching the newer members how to play without assistance. Their officers come from various backgrounds in the game so a wide variety of assistance is still avaliable. We can also still assist through the FB group and the skype rooms. They are not abandoned in any way. "

Thank you, I believe my point has been made

Just to be clear, I am in no way crying or pouting.  Just stating some facts about your alliance. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 21, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
Quotes From Henrietta(TomL):

"Why on earth are you targetting time? You are clearly unable to comprehend how we are two seperate alliances"

"Its not only me that went over, many officer go over on a weekly basis. I go over a lot because I run the parser, I help the newer people learn how to use it.  There is no "free flow" of membership, we are very strict on who can and cant move around."

"time have their own set of officers which are more than capable of teaching the newer members how to play without assistance. Their officers come from various backgrounds in the game so a wide variety of assistance is still avaliable. We can also still assist through the FB group and the skype rooms. They are not abandoned in any way. "

Thank you, I believe my point has been made

Just to be clear, I am in no way crying or pouting.  Just stating some facts about your alliance. 

I do not quite think you comprehend that I just told you this is no officer exchange. We decided that we would move whoever wanted to fight over to MM.

MM are their own alliance, they make their own choices, their own rules and decide their own leader. That leader could turn around and say they want nothing more to do with us, its just the relationship we have. At least the victory point will remain within the Time family.

Less talk Coma, more fighting, you guys are loosing. I thank Jim Rambo for the 4 million hydro i just stole from him :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 21, 2012, 06:42:25 PM
We have our second 4000 drop out.

   Admiral Jim Rambo    I am done.    25 minutes ago
To: Henrietta
Date: 2012-05-21 18:17:15 UTC
It is your farm. now. Have fun for 30 days. I quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply | Delete | Block

EDIT...

   Admiral Jim Rambo    By the way    2 minutes ago
To: Henrietta
Date: 2012-05-21 18:39:54 UTC
I left the Alliance as well. Enjoy the goods I am gone. I won't be back til you are BANNED for player Bashing!!!!!! I see you are hiding in little time you cheating bastard!!! Have fun busting your nut all over me too!!!!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 21, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
We have our second 4000 drop out.

   Admiral Jim Rambo    I am done.    25 minutes ago
To: Henrietta
Date: 2012-05-21 18:17:15 UTC
It is your farm. now. Have fun for 30 days. I quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply | Delete | Block

EDIT...

   Admiral Jim Rambo    By the way    2 minutes ago
To: Henrietta
Date: 2012-05-21 18:39:54 UTC
I left the Alliance as well. Enjoy the goods I am gone. I won't be back til you are BANNED for player Bashing!!!!!! I see you are hiding in little time you cheating bastard!!! Have fun busting your nut all over me too!!!!

So, Rambo leaves his toys out, loses a bunch, and then before our latest attack hits, he drops out of O4K so we don't get any War Points (he still left his ships for us though)... and then complains about "bashing" when there IS no "Bashing Rule" in a WAR... Want some cheese with your whine?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 21, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
Within the Time/time family there has been discussion on what kind of war to give Kaorky and his gang. We would have prefered one direct alliance vs alliance war, but Kaork knows he wont win that way. His idea was to include time so that he had some noob members to bash who had not yet learnt how to play the game fully.

We have come up with something simple that meets both in the middle. We will only be accepting the war between time (MM) and 4000. There are two reasons for this. First of all, the 4000 guys do not have enough members out of dmode to loose 2 wars. Secondly it allows Kaork and his merry me the chance to get their own attacks in.

We realise they will not like this, but really it just simpifies the whole process. Why fight 2 wars, which will drag out rather than fighting one? He is not fighting anyone else except for those he had already wanted to fight and each attack will count towards the war rather than towards seperate wars.

We hope this will be to kaorkys satisfaction, if its not, tough.

Time attacks on 4000 can be seen at maquis-online.co.uk/4000 along with our record on your dmode members, alliance statistics, basic history (to be completed) and our insightful comments on your alliance. We prefer to post our comments their concerning the war directly, for the simple reason there is more freedom there to write what we like. Peanut gallery (including Zuk, but not this dodgy Zek guy) and 4000 guys can comment on things over there as much as they like.

For the record though, time are currently winning the war.

War with Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Victory Points
37202
Victory Points
5992
As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.

    War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
    For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
    Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.





Surely you thought to yourself, kaork will have a field day with this one.  Someone shut the front door cause I'm about to go to jail for laughing so loud.


BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gotta hand it to them though, even they out did themselves on being complete BS liers and hypocrites on this one!  I have said many times what Time will do but this was about as low as they could sink.   Not only do they fight with only there big dogs 'who want to but don't have to' but I'm watching as every normal member of 'the solo alliance' drop d mode.   You truly stand out as a complete fat smelly area now! Thanks for making all my points valid.  Quote from Hen ' trust my word forum'. Hahahahaha. What a crock of oscar myer.

I think Hen and this move has just about said it all, need I say anything more? 

Enjoy your little time victory should you have it.  You will train them well in being a complete waist of Time.   Way to be awesome at sucking!

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on May 21, 2012, 09:59:07 PM
Seems hen has a p flag....

Odd, with all this talk and comments on d-mode...

Hahahaha :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 22, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
with what toml has said, to me it makes the most sense to have a one on one war. you are only one alliance. you wanted a war with little time more it seems so they gave you one even though they didnt want it. the big boys in big time wanted one but you wouldnt give it to them out right. so theres the compromise. now you have a war with little time and the big boys who wanted a war get one too. the fact is this doesnt help big time at all. since their alliance will suffer most. they arent in a war and their big boys left and wont return till this war is finished.

i do believe the peanuts may get better. but now i suppose that depends on omega 4000.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 02:25:21 AM

Time has 24 hours to put the big boy Pants on and accept the war or remain completly defaced even if they win the time war.  The claim of the win will be nothing less then rediculas , but if that's what they want...

Either way I will be yanking the war request in 24 hours.

Good luck, may the best losers win as neither alliance will claim much of a win.

Zuk I'm afraid the penuts won't be getting any better.


K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 02:28:18 AM
I
with what toml has said, to me it makes the most sense to have a one on one war. you are only one alliance. you wanted a war with little time more it seems so they gave you one even though they didnt want it. the big boys in big time wanted one but you wouldnt give it to them out right. so theres the compromise. now you have a war with little time and the big boys who wanted a war get one too. the fact is this doesnt help big time at all. since their alliance will suffer most. they arent in a war and their big boys left and wont return till this war is finished.

i do believe the peanuts may get better. but now i suppose that depends on omega 4000.


I suppose your intitled to your Time loving opinion.  Funny the rest of everyone else views this as a p'token move!   

Me: I thinks they just found another way to hide.  And your post is incorrect.  I wanted war with all of them. Bring it on.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 02:47:49 AM
Hens words to the penuts galary already broken as suspected.
This from one of me mates:


MRocket ( #4,942 ) time Rizzuto ‎‎[12:273:4]

  MRocket #4,807       Time              


is now a member of Time. Wondering Why??? War. I was going to target him but he switched. According to the post in the other forum some members went down well obviously some went up as well. Hen talks out his a**.


I know I'd never be able to sway you zuk but dang dude, really? Lmao. Time is alot of things but honarable has never and will never be one of them  they continue to muk up the already muddy water.  I guess he didn't want to fight so they hide him just as I've stated they would. Prob thought no one would notice.  I await the troll response to somehow discredit this as well. Choose wisly as I'm sure it will take some Time to I won't look for a post until tomorrow.

K


Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 22, 2012, 04:04:23 AM
i dont like time or Time, just think it was the best move for all. no one will be completely happy but this should everyone some happiness. thats what compromises are.

defaced? i doubt that. they have clearly listend their logical reasons for this. unless you can guarantee them some sort of ultimatum to keep your alliance from all quitting should they get their butts kicked during one war and dragging it out i see no reason why this shouldnt work. once again the ball is in your court and if you dont play then you will be defaced here.

furthermore if the peanuts wont be getting any better then that depends on you. if you cant or wont partake in this war then yes the peanuts wont get any better. would be a shame since your said they would. i guess fearless leader it all depends on you.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on May 22, 2012, 04:05:14 AM
Rule 1: Never argue in an online forum; it makes you look stupid.
Rule 2: Never try and sound smart in an online forum; it makes you look stupid.
Rule 3: Never post in an online forum; it makes you look stupid.
Rule 4: Refer to the previous rules.

Kaork, Rogan and the rest are all in blatant violation of these rules.

I violate them all too and I'll just admit it so as to keep arguing to a minimum. In a world where everyone points fingers at the 'other guy' and wants him to take the fall, I'm not surprised to see it carry over into games. Let's just go with this: words were exchanged, sometimes rude or derisive. Kaork got annoyed at Henrietta's aggressive playing; Henrietta got annoyed at Kaork's threats.

After pointless debate, war was declared on a related alliance that had no contact with Kaork. The alliance(s) involved rushed to take the sides.

People are silly. It's a game- a WAR game. Get to blowing up some ships!!

I want to see some battle reports!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Sky* on May 22, 2012, 06:45:35 AM
Just a little FYI Kaorky. MRocket met the requirements to be promoted to Time Wasters BEFORE the war started and chose to move over, which is totally within his right to do so. No war rule has been broken!
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 22, 2012, 12:15:46 PM
Seems hen has a p flag....

Odd, with all this talk and comments on d-mode...

Hahahaha :)
tbh a fair few folks will use pmode as and when they need to... Its a stupid observation...are you also casting scorn on the top players who use p mode?

Pointless and stupid post... It means nothing...

Just get on with the war...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 01:58:11 PM
Hmmm would seem folks here could do math Hen/sky.

More people vacate little time into Time last night



Sent Requests (1)
Alliance Name   Alliance Tag   Members   Actions
[WAR]  Time Wasters
1,000,000 pts
Inactives: FALSE   Time    120   
Cancel
Alliance Relations
Alliance Name   Alliance Tag   Members   Actions
[WAR] - 1,000,000 pts   Minutemen   time    122   
Surrender
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 03:38:15 PM
 James B Ricker
about 1 hour ago
[ delete ]
This sucks The Ahole I was going after with my heph just jumped back into big Time from little time they should not be aloud to do that in the middle of a WAR.


Roflmao.  Stand up guys real stand up!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
who is he refering to? We booted one guy who was let into Time through confusion. Hes back on his way to MM.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 03:54:44 PM
Always an escuse eh Tom.  Excuses are like A-holes, everyone's got'em and they usually stink.  Keep dancing
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
Oh Kaork, save it for the battle field. Hopefully you will come out of dmode as more of your alliance have jumped into it. You know only have 22 / 94 active members down from 29 / 94 just two days ago.

If its TGW that you are talking about, then hes on his way back to MM. If its not then tell me who it is so i can sort it for you.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 04:07:12 PM
 
Oh Kaork, save it for the battle field. Hopefully you will come out of dmode as more of your alliance have jumped into it. You know only have 22 / 94 active members down from 29 / 94 just two days ago.

If its TGW that you are talking about, then hes on his way back to MM. If its not then tell me who it is so i can sort it for you.

With all the members bouncing back and forth I could see how there would be some confusion.  Might want to wash that hole, it stinks.  And your math is wrong and you continue to try to document un-truths such as how honest of a person you are. Roflmao
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Unlike you guys who seems to sprout facts out your backsides, we have been keeping records.

http://maquis-online.co.uk/4000/dmode.php

Are you telling me that when I went through this morning and compiled todays figures that I got them wrong?

That list shows only 22 people not either in v,d,s,!,d! or p.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
If your keeping records then why don't ya post some on yourself Hen. Unless this off site board is only under your control and the scripts you are using aren't BFG approved.  Let's see how many in little time are in dmode or have moved to Time since I made the war terms.   Keep your promisses to the penuts galary next time I suppose cause you've let them all down and Are you ever gonna take that bath cause dude you really stink.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 05:49:23 PM
You are sprouting from your backside again without thinking about things.

Yes that off site system is under my control, however if by "the scripts" you are implying that I have a user script to collect the data on your alliance you are wrong. I have to manually look up each of your locations to see what status you all are.

I havent done Time/time stats because thats another 300 people to search for, and I occasionally like to play the game myself. Since you made the war terms is irrelevant, we have already changed those war terms by deciding to fight you by joining the time alliance instead of from our own alliance.

There will shortly be some more members joining Time, that is nothing to do with the war, they are a merger joining us and we decided rather than have them join MM like normal, we will have them join directly into Time as they were nothing to do the war in the first place.

MM will have a high % of dmoders, they are the training alliance and were largely in d mode before the war. At a guess I would have said a good 80% of them were dmode. You knew this before you sent them a war declaration.

I have not broken any promise, I made sure that as soon as I was aware of the situation it was fixed. Taking a bath? Big talk comming from the guy in the picture on the 4000 news site.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 22, 2012, 06:02:29 PM
Unlike you guys who seems to sprout facts out your backsides, we have been keeping records.

http://maquis-online.co.uk/4000/dmode.php

Are you telling me that when I went through this morning and compiled todays figures that I got them wrong?

That list shows only 22 people not either in v,d,s,!,d! or p.

Depending on what time of day you run these numbers I bet time has less than 22 people not in v,d,s,!,d! or p.  Every night I know at least 4 or 5 time member go "p".  Mr Chuckles, Wild Cat, Henrietta(TomL) are three of them.  Oh how I long to be out of dip mode right now.  Shut up and worry about the one's who are not in dip mode, or just go play one of the extreme unis if you would like.

XOXOXO,

Coma V
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: D´deridex on May 22, 2012, 06:10:54 PM
Hmmm would seem folks here could do math Hen/sky.

More people vacate little time into Time last night


Would be lovely.
If you take the figures Rogan posted (page 9, entries # 7 & #8) and add them, you get 245.

if you take your own figures, you get 242.

How this is "vacating little time to Time", is a mystery to me.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: D´deridex on May 22, 2012, 06:20:17 PM
Depending on what time of day you run these numbers I bet time has less than 22 people not in v,d,s,!,d! or p.  Every night I know at least 4 or 5 time member go "p".  Mr Chuckles, Wild Cat, Henrietta(TomL) are three of them.  Oh how I long to be out of dip mode right now.  Shut up and worry about the one's who are not in dip mode, or just go play one of the extreme unis if you would like.

XOXOXO,

Coma V

Agreed on the p. this is pretty temporary and, because you can drop it immediately, doesn´t say much if you are able to participate or not, unlike d-mode.

So, if your guys wouldn´t use this argument, see Roadkill, we can scratch p-mode and count only the other not-fighting modes.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 06:27:40 PM
Agreed on the p. this is pretty temporary and, because you can drop it immediately, doesn´t say much if you are able to participate or not, unlike d-mode.

So, if your guys wouldn´t use this argument, see Roadkill, we can scratch p-mode and count only the other not-fighting modes.

Oh but p mode isn't tempory to Hen is it ?  Its where 90% of his time Is waisted. So playing would be temporary to hen.


You are sprouting from your backside again without thinking about things.

Yes that off site system is under my control, however if by "the scripts" you are implying that I have a user script to collect the data on your alliance you are wrong. I have to manually look up each of your locations to see what status you all are.

I havent done Time/time stats because thats another 300 people to search for, and I occasionally like to play the game myself. Since you made the war terms is irrelevant, we have already changed those war terms by deciding to fight you by joining the time alliance instead of from our own alliance.

There will shortly be some more members joining Time, that is nothing to do with the war, they are a merger joining us and we decided rather than have them join MM like normal, we will have them join directly into Time as they were nothing to do the war in the first place.

MM will have a high % of dmoders, they are the training alliance and were largely in d mode before the war. At a guess I would have said a good 80% of them were dmode. You knew this before you sent them a war declaration.

I have not broken any promise, I made sure that as soon as I was aware of the situation it was fixed. Taking a bath? Big talk comming from the guy in the picture on the 4000 news site.

A quote from Lisa in the show friends:

'smelly cat, Smmmeeelllly Cat, why do you smell so bad.   Smelly cat Smeeellly cat, it's not your fought'

War terms in which 'you changed'. Yes 'you' did change them. Without agreement and against your own words Rof.  Valid point you made.   
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Neutral people to the conflict have said what we did was a good idea in their opinion. You even got a better deal out of it as you have less heavies to beat on your guys.

You can try and bash out all the propaganda you like, but at the end of the day kaorky, we can out spin you any day. Rogan tried his best and that didnt work either. Even your own officers do not agree with you anymore. I think its time to look at your position and see if its what your membership want Kaork.

Also, you never answered my question. Are you saying that the figures I said about how many from your alliance were active is wrong? (and yes I understand it will have changed since 10 hours ago. For example, Frank is now out of d mode)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 06:42:54 PM
Neutral people to the conflict have said what we did was a good idea in their opinion. You even got a better deal out of it as you have less heavies to beat on your guys.

You can try and bash out all the propaganda you like, but at the end of the day kaorky, we can out spin you any day. Rogan tried his best and that didnt work either. Even your own officers do not agree with you anymore. I think its time to look at your position and see if its what your membership want Kaork.

Yeah your right all the propaganda and promisses made by you are useless you do do what you want anyway.  Again... Never trust a time member.

As for membership we are doing just fine and will continue to be just fine. We don't consider this the war we wanted nor agreed to have with Time/time and consider you a chicken. But we are fighting anyway, Looks like we agree on pretty much everything to me.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
Things are not as rosey as you think Kaork. It would seem from the skype chatter your not a very popular leader amongst your own people
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 22, 2012, 06:52:34 PM
Stop the crap and kill something instead of all this rhetoric?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on May 22, 2012, 06:53:44 PM
tbh a fair few folks will use pmode as and when they need to... Its a stupid observation...are you also casting scorn on the top players who use p mode?

Pointless and stupid post... It means nothing...

Just get on with the war...

I would agree to any other player.  However, ive known hen for years.  You need to look at this
http://maquis-online.co.uk/4000/?id=67

So hen/maquis/Time make a big thing when their war enemy uses dip. (rl is more important than a game). Yet dont publish their own dip mode alliance mates, then use p-mode.

Pot kettle calling black? 

Just saying.  :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 07:03:47 PM
I did not do the dmode stats for time/Time because thats another 250-300 people and would take hours to go through everyone. If you are interested in our dmode figures then you compile the information. Like I have already said though, you knew that time was mainly dmoders when you sent your request so your arguement that we are a lot of dmoders is flawed.

Since hostilities however, your alliance has slowly but surley moved to dmode.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on May 22, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
As a member of the peanut gallery, please don't let it drag on and on and on...


Get it on and fight !!! >:(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 07:27:35 PM
We would but they have all dived into d mode!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on May 22, 2012, 07:33:27 PM
I can see another 50+ pages  :(..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on May 22, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
Well, i treat this as a game.  Dip as i prefer drinking with my mates ultimately :). Cant afford the neutrality markers, so not much choice ;)

Having said that, these boards are great fun to read...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 08:14:13 PM
We would but they have all dived into d mode!

Then accept the war per the terms and stop your lies. :P
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 22, 2012, 08:17:40 PM
We have already told you why you cannot have two wars. The terms were laid out by you, not us. We decided to do away with your terms and fight you on ours.

Dont like it? Surrender and we can all back off each other for a while.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 08:26:47 PM
Things are not as rosey as you think Kaork. It would seem from the skype chatter your not a very popular leader amongst your own people

Why don't you post some proof as your word means nothing to me.  Or is this just another smelly cat?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
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We have already told you why you cannot have two wars. The terms were laid out by you, not us. We decided to do away with your terms and fight you on ours.

Dont like it? Surrender and we can all back off each other for a while.
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Refer to Post Bahahahahah and chicken
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: kevin rhodes on May 22, 2012, 10:07:41 PM
is that a battle report? no sorry its a flying ninja cat
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 22, 2012, 11:34:32 PM
From a guy that doesn't read the forums


 Νικολας
about 5 hours ago
[ delete ]
well to be honest I am trying though the parser to find some nice nests that I could move in and have some fun. I chose galaxies that I already have activity in, 4,12,13 and 22. most members I find in the parser that used to be in time are now labeled as Time, and are no longer red...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 23, 2012, 12:16:17 AM
There is nothing wrong with using N-markers (P-mode) while you sleep... Many people in both Alliances use them:

A) No need to FRS and waste Hydro

B) You can't get nuked while you're off-line (that's VERY important as some people will nuke all day if they can)

C) You can still come out and play right away when they expire... not like Dip

D) There are no Dip Taxes

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 23, 2012, 12:35:16 AM
For those interested in the Current Stats:

War with Dark Sphere of Omega 4000

Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000

Minutemen Victory Points
67,487

Omega-4000 Victory Points
11,594

As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.

    War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
    For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
    Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 23, 2012, 12:41:29 AM
Looks like y'all are running away with it. Since hitting our weakest target who I often thought was Hens multicount, seeing as the only person that ever took his fleet was TomL, you haven't gained much.

Btw, Pussy Cat(meow), shouldn't you change your signature since you are no longer in Time Wasters?  MinuteMaids would be much easier to drink at this "time".

Peace out
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 23, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
Yep, ComaV, you are right... I'll be in Minutemen until the war ends, however long it takes... Of course you guys can always surrender now if you want...  :P
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 12:52:53 AM
Begging for surrender now to wild cat. Geez this is getting lame
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 23, 2012, 01:00:25 AM
Begging for surrender now to wild cat.

Sorry... I don't accept your surrender... When you come out of dip you'll die with the rest of your members...

 ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 02:23:14 AM
Oh I don't believe that was surrender, another time perhaps?  As for dieing with the rest of us. Your dropping members as fast as you can gain them from big Time.   Another Time illusion, time only knows and time will only tell


‎[:13] Saltpillar Eugene Folse 1757 time ! 2012-05-13 14:48:18
‎[:14] Avatar Eugene Folse 1757 time ! 2012-05-13 14:48:18
‎[:15] Zion Eugene Folse 1757 time ! Neo 2012-05-13 14:48:18


This guy was in time yesterday

Now he is in join us!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 02:36:59 AM
Times war has been yanked for going over the 24 hour deadline. Guess they ran out of time.

Roflmao BAHAhahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on May 23, 2012, 04:54:59 AM
Kaork, I mean no offense and all, but are you mentally ill? Or do you live in a false state of reality?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 23, 2012, 07:22:37 AM
Eugene is heading up the merger that I have already spoken about on these forums. He will be back shortly, keep your panties on and keep calm. All these excitable claims of foul play cant be doing you much good.

Have you only just realised that we were not accepting your other war, for the reasons already discussed? Broken record player comes to mind.

Kaork, I mean no offense and all, but are you mentally ill? Or do you live in a false state of reality?
His mentality and state of mind are a common talking point in Time.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 10:37:32 AM
Funny you can only bring out paradimes and make stupid comments yet I'm posting proof.  Keep talking out of your cat hen, it stinks worse every day.

As for not accepting the war, yep reasons discuse before in all my post including the very first one on this board.   Your a true looser who likes to hide your members and talk a big game but won't fight a fair fight to save your life.  Even when someone is calling you out to do so.


Contradictions and lies:

Anyone can read this board and see where Hen has contradicted and lied multiple times.  Example 'kids are #1' 'nothing is more important then this game'.  Another good example of this is this little offsite forum he has setup that no one cares about but him.   He has a list of Dark Sphere members but doesn't post his own?  His comment 'I'd have to go through all 300 members and just don't have the time'.  First of all you don't have 300 members. 2nd of all if you did that it would show just how many of your members are swapping from time to Time, so yeah i get that you wouldn't want that out. Third - would you really have to get that manually or is that something your leader could quickly provide?  Hell next time ask me and I'll send you ours that way you'd have more time to work on yours and keeping your offsite forum more accurate.  Futher more you pick an american holiday weekend to post it, and I see you don't have all the 'time FU's posted, again being a little contradictory and untruthful in your data you are offering the public to read aren't we?  One of these days the penut gallary is going to get tired of you blowing so much smoke up there arse.  At this rate your going to when a an award..... For being stupid.

'Time the best alliance in the universe' at blowing smoke up your arse.
'prepare to die' I don't think so but your welcome to try

Enjoy being good...



At sucking!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 23, 2012, 12:59:39 PM


Contradictions and lies:

Anyone can read this board and see where Hen has contradicted and lied multiple times.  Example 'kids are #1' 'nothing is more important then this game'. In all honesty I cannot remember saying "nothing is more important then this game", If I did then it would probably have been in jest or in some kind of dig at you or your alliance. Nobody with kids could say that anything is as important as them. Another good example of this is this little offsite forum he has setup that no one cares about but him. Its funny that there are people reading the stuff and commenting.  He has a list of Dark Sphere members but doesn't post his own?  His comment 'I'd have to go through all 300 members and just don't have the time'.  First of all you don't have 300 members. It was a guestamate.  2nd of all if you did that it would show just how many of your members are swapping from time to Time, ONE person has swapped from time to Time and I got him sent straight back into time when I was made aware, how can you say that I contradicted myself on that? I remedied it straight away. so yeah i get that you wouldn't want that out. Third - would you really have to get that manually or is that something your leader could quickly provide? We only see each other for a few hours a day, we have more important things to do.  Hell next time ask me and I'll send you ours But officially in game we are on 'non speaking terms', I think thats what you told me. that way you'd have more time to work on yours and keeping your offsite forum more accurate. Why would I include time/Time when they are our figures for keeping track of your guys, If you want to keep track of our guys do it yourself.   Futher more you pick an american holiday weekend to post it, And in early June there is an extra long public Holiday in the UK for Her Majesty's jubilee, so it will be even.  and I see you don't have all the 'time FU's posted, again being a little contradictory and untruthful in your data you are offering the public to read aren't we? I can only post those as I recieve them. If you want to post your attacks on time then do it, I can then update the system for our archives.  One of these days the penut gallary is going to get tired of you blowing so much smoke up there arse. I have not blown any smoke, I have not broke any promises, I have not done anything other than join time to fight you rather than do it as two alliances. At this rate your going to when a an award..... For being stupid.

'Time the best alliance in the universe' at blowing smoke up your arse.
'prepare to die' I don't think so but your welcome to try

Enjoy being good...



At sucking!


Kaork, just quit with trying to make us look bad through propaganda, it doesnt work. Instead try and make us look bad through battle reports. Even I am now fed up of your constant attempts to sling mud. Just get on with the bloody game, get out of dmode and try and blow some ships up.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 23, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
+1 Tom

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 02:31:46 PM
+1 Tom



Lmao.  Bahahahahaha
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 23, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
Lmao.  Bahahahahaha

Good rebuttal....
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 04:39:51 PM
Hey Hen,  your website sucks.  It's slow and doesn't work on the iPhone very well.  Tried to post a comment there and it errors out on me, then it posted 6 times.  I'm sure you can delete it, after All your the admin.  I'm done with your stupid site.  Looks like you need to learn to program too.  Guess it will continue to provide false data and only maintained and written by you.   Have fun responding to yourself.

If I were Matt I wouldnt allow a offsite forum to be posted here.  Specially when it has the word fu on it.  Kids play this game. Hen is obviously one of them.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: lazoputz on May 23, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Oh Gawd, im sick of this.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 23, 2012, 05:57:48 PM
Sick of Kaork the chicken you mean... Talks the talk but cant walk the walk...

Can i suggest time folks dont post here in response to his inane ramblings... Just post battle reports...

Talk is cheap..kill shit...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 06:43:21 PM
Awwww b
Sick of Kaork the chicken you mean... Talks the talk but cant walk the walk...

Can i suggest time folks dont post here in response to his inane ramblings... Just post battle reports...

Talk is cheap..kill shit...

Awww but I'm having so much fun waisting your time.

If you want to go read hens boards instead where only he can post don't know what any difference is and reading it on your own forums would be but your free to do as you wish.

I would Think it is Time who is chicken since they wanted to go and change the war terms and not accept the war under both flags as terms were given but hey, it's Time did we really expect anything better? I know I didn't and intact called you on it since day one.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 23, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
I can post on the website... Suggest the problem is between keyboard and chair in your case....
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on May 23, 2012, 11:30:10 PM
Can i suggest time folks dont post here in response to his inane ramblings... Just post battle reports...

But then he wouldn't get the grace of seeing the letters he pushes on the keyboard pop up on the computer screen... D:
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 23, 2012, 11:32:44 PM
But then he wouldn't get the grace of seeing the letters he pushes on the keyboard pop up on the computer screen... D:


LOL. That was funny. It is quit magical  you know. I only figured out how to turn my own computer on just the other day.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Got2BDrunk Dan Larrivee on May 24, 2012, 01:19:13 AM
I found this with our SVK war, and with my experience in Xbox Live. 

teams with less players, but skill, do better than those with more players with average skill.

SVK hid in d-mode for the mass majority of the war.  They would come out, hit quick, FRS and toggle d-mode.  Nothing against them, they played it the best they could.  At great cost to us, we ended it for them.

It is easy to pick a fight on a big squad with a lot more targets when a lot of your squad is in d-mode.  I would, humbly, suggest any war issued from now on to have a dmode quantity clause.  This gorrilla warfare is garbage, and a way little squads can annoy big squads.

**Legal Disclaimer))  I am drunk rite now ...  ::) :D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 24, 2012, 02:04:13 AM

**Legal Disclaimer))  I am drunk rite now ...  ::) :D

HA, I wouldn't expect anything less!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Byrdman1369 on May 24, 2012, 02:52:56 AM
Who's winning the war. Peanut Gallery in here.  ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 02:56:10 AM
Big Time would be winning the war for little time at current ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Byrdman1369 on May 24, 2012, 03:02:39 AM
Is this war gonna be drawn out like our war? I'm with Bat'leth and we are fighting cCs and wow been fighting since Feb.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 03:06:43 AM
Im sure with some 80% of little time in dip and only the biggest Time guys active the war will be a long one. They seem to be targeting lower rank players for sats and overnight res. we won't force our people into d and we won't hide them in another alliance so statics say chances of winning for us is very low.  But stranger things have happened so no one tell my guys that cause that all think we will win.  If Time was fighting a fair fight from both alliances instead of the one they claim to not be associated with as a whole alliance then we might have a chance.  But they decided to take the chicken sh*t way out once again.  Something Time is known for since the beginning of time.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 24, 2012, 03:14:42 AM
im sure the war would be much closer between batleth and cCs if klag hadnt left the alliance today. this is why it will be dragged out forever.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 11:41:23 AM
Hen is it true or false:

That your board allows only you to make post and everyone else only gets to make sub comments?

That Time didn't accept the war with The Dark Sphere after the sphere presented them a war request and then moved some 25 high ranking officers over to little te to do the fighting alone?

That in the same paragraph and post you say that kids are #1, but there is nothing more important then the game.  (hope kids don't read that post).

That time has moved members from both Time into time and from time into Time since the war request and terms were sent?

That hen stands for contradictory chicken who the other members from Time are allowing you to make the rest of them look like a complete fool with your made up post, lies and contradictions?

That you won't even respond or post this in your board cause you know it's all true?

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
Looks like less members then the 124 I saw yesterday.


Alliance Name   Alliance Tag   Members   Actions
[WAR] - 1,000,000 pts   Minutemen   time    121   
Surrender
View War


What you want to bet they are in Time


 Elnino is the leader of the Time Wasters alliance which has 122 members.
Time Wasters alliance was founded on: 2009-09-05.

Alliance Actions



I'll let the numbers speak for themself
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 24, 2012, 04:27:22 PM
Kaorky you can point fingers at Time/time all day long, or Hen for that matter, but the only thing you are doing is TALKING. Time/time can do whatever the hell they please. In fact I don't think anyone cares that they are swapping members (or not), the bottom line is you can only control yourself, and MAYBE your rag tag alliance. You ACCEPTED the war, so fight it.

I think it's time for you to shut your mouth and actually do something about it...Oh wait you are hiding in D mode.....typical.

I do think it's funny that you have enough time during your day to track Time/time movements and spew your filth all over this board, but you some how can't find the time to actually come out and fight.

Quit being a pussy.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
Dear lub.  How's that promis of hitting omegas going again since you denied my war request with your alliance 4 times?   I don't think I've been told of a prob from your guys since then either.   I'll let your actions speak for themselves.  None.   

Thanks and have a great day!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on May 24, 2012, 04:57:54 PM
Oh yeah you mean the war request that had I accepted it would have been an automatic win for you guys because of the Dmode percentage? I do remember that, then I remember you denying my terms that did not include the dmode percentages so it would have been a man to man fight, or man (me) to coward (you) fight.

And I do recall my alliance still mopping up a few of your boys' fleets.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 24, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
Oh yeah you mean the war request that had I accepted it would have been an automatic win for you guys because of the Dmode percentage? I do remember that, then I remember you denying my terms that did not include the dmode percentages so it would have been a man to man fight, or man (me) to coward (you) fight.

And I do recall my alliance still mopping up a few of your boys' fleets.

Yes yes i do remember that better now.  I remember that you only wanted a war for 200k points and like Time wanted nothing to do with attacking anyone above 6k.  When I hit you back with a real war request your alliance was in 76% dmode and only 5 or 6 of you were playing?  I heard you lost a player or two since then.  So Down to three active players now?  Your boards must be full of fun things.   

Have fun mate.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 25, 2012, 12:00:05 AM
This sounds like a good resolution. As I understand, 4K wanted a war against both big Time and little time, and now they have it. With some of the big Time members temporarily merging with little time, 4K is now basically fighting both alliances, which is what they wanted in the first place right?

Let the talks die (from both sides) and let's just see the battle reports.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 25, 2012, 01:32:53 AM
N
This sounds like a good resolution. As I understand, 4K wanted a war against both big Time and little time, and now they have it. With some of the big Time members temporarily merging with little time, 4K is now basically fighting both alliances, which is what they wanted in the first place right?

Let the talks die (from both sides) and let's just see the battle reports.

Neg it is not what we wanted or agreed to. :) but thanks for playing

Little time losses another member now down to 120,  big Time gains another.  Could it be another small member?  So much for hens word to the penut gallary, that too is out the window I suppose. Only one more reason to know he is a complete lier and Time does what ever they want no matter what they say.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on May 25, 2012, 02:33:48 AM
N
Neg it is not what we wanted or agreed to. :) but thanks for playing

Little time losses another member now down to 120,  big Time gains another.  Could it be another small member?  So much for hens word to the penut gallary, that too is out the window I suppose. Only one more reason to know he is a complete lier and Time does what ever they want no matter what they say.



Hey Kaork, AS a member of Time, I would like you to know that no one from time has come over except MRocket who we invited. Most of the members I've seen come in the past few days are from little alliances merging or from Time alliances in other universes. I'll post you some of the posts if you'd like.
Remember that a larger number in Time means more members in Time. Just because time lost a member too doesn't mean he/she jumped from one boat to another which no one has at least that I've seen.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 25, 2012, 03:41:05 AM
N
Neg it is not what we wanted or agreed to. :) but thanks for playing

Little time losses another member now down to 120,  big Time gains another.  Could it be another small member?  So much for hens word to the penut gallary, that too is out the window I suppose. Only one more reason to know he is a complete lier and Time does what ever they want no matter what they say.
I'm not sure what's the issue here...
In a war, players can always leave the alliance to avoid giving away war points. The little guys at time don't have to leave and rejoin big Time in order to deny you of points, all they have to do is click "Leave." And you can do the same. You don't need a sister alliance in order to hide. All you need is the "Leave" button, and that's available to both sides.

So I still don't see what's the problem here.
If Time and time members were all combined into one alliance, it would be the same situation...
1) You would still be warring against members of both Time and time
2) They would still be able to hide by clicking "Leave" any time
3) You would be able to hide in similar fashion

Sure they can filter their members and select only the stronger members to fight you, but that option is available for any alliance, in any war. Any member can leave, or go d-mode/v-mode/p-mode, and exclude themselves from the war. Having a sister alliance doesn't really add to this.

If you said "We only wish to fight little time, yet they've been leaking members from big Time over to fight us, not fair..." then that would make sense.
But you wanted to fight both, right? And you got exactly that. I don't see why you are so adamant about officially warring with both of them--even if that happens, they can STILL hide by clicking "Leave," or by d/v/p-mode (as can you). It makes no difference.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 25, 2012, 09:56:01 AM
I'm not sure what's the issue here...
In a war, players can always leave the alliance to avoid giving away war points. The little guys at time don't have to leave and rejoin big Time in order to deny you of points, all they have to do is click "Leave." And you can do the same. You don't need a sister alliance in order to hide. All you need is the "Leave" button, and that's available to both sides.

So I still don't see what's the problem here.
If Time and time members were all combined into one alliance, it would be the same situation...
1) You would still be warring against members of both Time and time
2) They would still be able to hide by clicking "Leave" any time
3) You would be able to hide in similar fashion

Sure they can filter their members and select only the stronger members to fight you, but that option is available for any alliance, in any war. Any member can leave, or go d-mode/v-mode/p-mode, and exclude themselves from the war. Having a sister alliance doesn't really add to this.

If you said "We only wish to fight little time, yet they've been leaking members from big Time over to fight us, not fair..." then that would make sense.
But you wanted to fight both, right? And you got exactly that. I don't see why you are so adamant about officially warring with both of them--even if that happens, they can STILL hide by clicking "Leave," or by d/v/p-mode (as can you). It makes no difference.



Do you guys just start off talkIng without reading first or are you all time members trying to cover there arse because they have made such a huge folly?    What do you not understand they we are fighting against 20 very large Time officers.   That is all and exactly what I wanted to avoid.  I wanted a fight with all of them or I wasn't going to officially fight.  Time knew this and wussed out anyway.   If you can't go do some reading before you post then all your doing is making yourself sound stupid.   

It comes down to this:   We asked for war with all of them.   They did exactly what I said they would do which was hide all there members and send in there tanks.    That's fine I blow up tanks to but when we are putting all our men on the battle field so should they.  They are #1 after all. 

K
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 25, 2012, 07:26:17 PM
Oh shut up , leave dmode and go put your ships where your mouth is... You are still all talk .... I might even come out of retirment and join time at this rate just to let you spout some more about membership numbers.

Go blow shit up or shut up..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 25, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Do you guys just start off talkIng without reading first or are you all time members trying to cover there arse because they have made such a huge folly?    What do you not understand they we are fighting against 20 very large Time officers.   That is all and exactly what I wanted to avoid.  I wanted a fight with all of them or I wasn't going to officially fight.  Time knew this and wussed out anyway.   If you can't go do some reading before you post then all your doing is making yourself sound stupid.   

It comes down to this:   We asked for war with all of them.   They did exactly what I said they would do which was hide all there members and send in there tanks.    That's fine I blow up tanks to but when we are putting all our men on the battle field so should they.  They are #1 after all. 

K
:o Is there a face palm emoticon available?
I read and understood exactly what you meant, but you clearly didn't understand what I said. Let me make it simpler to understand... We have two choices for a match-up here:
1) Your alliance vs little time (but with Time members temporarily buffing them up)
2) Your alliance vs both little time + big Time

You wanted both of their alliances to join the war (choice #2), because supposedly that will prevent their weak members from hiding.
Well guess what, that's WRONG. Even if you war against both alliances, the weaker members can STILL hide just as easily, by temporarily leaving the alliance or using d/v/p-mode.

Like I said: these options to hide the weaker members during war is available to every alliance, regardless of the setup. If your concern is to face all of them rather than just the top players, then your idea doesn't make a difference.
(And any option available for them to hide their weaker members is also available to your alliance.)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 25, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
:o Is there a face palm emoticon available?
I read and understood exactly what you meant, but you clearly didn't understand what I said. Let me make it simpler to understand...

We have two choices for a match-up here:
1) Your alliance vs little time (but with Time members temporarily buffing them up)
2) Your alliance vs both little time + big Time

You wanted both of their alliances to join the war (choice #2), because supposedly that will prevent their weak members from hiding.
Well guess what, that's WRONG. Even if you war against both alliances, the weaker members can STILL hide just as easily, by temporarily leaving the alliance or using d/v/p-mode.

Like I said: these options to hide the weaker members during war is available to every alliance, regardless of the setup. Even if you pull both alliances into the war, that doesn't change anything.

Your idea isn't any better than what's currently happening, if your concern is to "face the entire alliance rather than just the top players." Any option available for them to hide their weaker members is also available to your alliance.

Thanks for making for making my point completly clear.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 25, 2012, 11:22:24 PM
Thanks for making for making my point completly clear.
lol, what? Exactly the opposite, I just showed that your point makes no sense. Here, I'll dumb it down further...

Your point: Having both alliances (TIME + time) in the war prevents their weaker players from hiding.
My point: Wrong. It makes no difference.

Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Either way, both sides have equal chances to hide your weak players.
Either way, this is a war between SELECT MEMBERS of each side.

In other words, they've accepted your request. Your request was never to "involve everyone in the war," you never really asked to "fight them all" (that would require d/v/p-mode to be banned from both sides).
Your request inherently meant that both sides will be SELECTING their players to fight the war, and now you got exactly that.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
lol, what? Exactly the opposite, I just showed that your point makes no sense. Here, I'll dumb it down further...

Your point: Having both alliances (TIME + time) in the war prevents their weaker players from hiding.
My point: Wrong. It makes no difference.

Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Either way, both sides have equal chances to hide your weak players.
Either way, this is a war between SELECT MEMBERS of each side.

In other words, they've accepted your request. Your request was never to "involve everyone in the war," you never really asked to "fight them all" (that would require d/v/p-mode to be banned from both sides).
Your request inherently meant that both sides will be SELECTING their players to fight the war, and now you got exactly that.

No no, I think you clearly refreshed my point and clarified it very well.  Thanks

I do have a couple of questions.

Either way, you are still facing against the same     

When there is over 100 players in the alliance we deemed to go to war with who aren't fighting in the war how in the world did you come to this conclusion?  I question your thought process not what you said above.  Shirley you don't believe everyone of them is in d or v or stays in p?


Either way, both sides have equal chances to hide your weak players.

We dont hide our week players and we don't send them to other alliances they are free to go dip if they want and as always they are free to stay or leave.  Doesn't mean they do and you will find several lower ranked members are still active in this war and hitting time daily.   I again question your thought process.


Either way, this is a war between SELECT MEMBERS
Yes time selected its members against all of mine. 

And there you have it point is made

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 26, 2012, 02:54:36 AM
Sounds like you are still confused. Let me clarify what I said:

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Whoever wants to fight, will still fight.
Whoever wants to hide, will still hide. It makes no difference.
And this applies for both sides.

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, both sides have equal chances to hide their weak players.
This option is available to both sides. Dragging Time into the war won't make a difference.

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, this is a war between selected members
Both sides can select/hide members. Didn't you tell your members: "If you can't take care of your fleet, better to go d-mode"? Unless all of your players are in active mode, then what you are bringing to the war is a SELECTED group of players from your alliance.

In short, it doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war... because it makes no difference:
Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Either way, both sides have the option to hide their weak players.
Either way, this is a war between selected members.

Get it? You have no grounds to say "Time/time rejected our proposal" because your proposal makes no difference, lol. It's an empty "proposal," an excuse to say "Look! They rejected our war proposal!"

Nah, they accepted it :D

Quote
No no, I think you clearly refreshed my point and clarified it very well.  Thanks
Yep, I refreshed your point and clarified it as a flaw. No thanks needed, you are welcome.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 03:35:41 AM
Sounds like you are still confused. Let me clarify what I said:

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Whoever wants to fight, will still fight.
Whoever wants to hide, will still hide. It makes no difference.
And this applies for both sides.

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, both sides have equal chances to hide their weak players.
This option is available to both sides. Dragging Time into the war won't make a difference.

It doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war...Either way, this is a war between selected members
Both sides can select/hide members. Didn't you tell your members: "If you can't take care of your fleet, better to go d-mode"? Unless all of your players are in active mode, then what you are bringing to the war is a SELECTED group of players from your alliance.

In short, it doesn't matter if you drag Time into the war... because it makes no difference:
Either way, you are still facing against the same players.
Either way, both sides have the option to hide their weak players.
Either way, this is a war between selected members.

Get it? You have no grounds to say "Time/time rejected our proposal" because your proposal makes no difference, lol. It's an empty "proposal," an excuse to say "Look! They rejected our war proposal!"

Nah, they accepted it :D
Yep, I refreshed your point and clarified it as a flaw. No thanks needed, you are welcome.


To quote my 7 year old.  ' I think you're on to something'







Something stupid ;)


Please refer your comments you felt like bolding and making larger font to state the exact same thing twice, to my previous post.  Your points are invalid, doesn't matter how flawed you think mine are.  Time wusses out again just like they did last time and just like last time we will stomp a mud hole in there arse for it :).  And even if we don't we are still an awesome alliance that took on Time's selected members as you stated.  What has your alliance done lately?  What alliance are you in anyway? 

Kaork
Dark Sphere to the End of Time
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 26, 2012, 06:14:24 AM
Your points are invalid, doesn't matter how flawed you think mine are.
Wow, great analysis.

Let's put it this way: If you drag big Time into the war officially, what difference will it make? Let's see...
1) Any weak player who wants to hide, still can hide
2) Any strong player who wants to fight, still can fight

Put 2+2 together, and that means your proposal is meaningless. It makes no difference. So...what are you here whining about again? The reality is: players from BOTH sides are shuffling themselves. Those who want to fight are fighting, those who want to hide are hiding. That occurs on BOTH sides.

All I see here are 2 alliances fighting, that's it.
BOTH of them are hiding some of their weak players.
BOTH of them are selecting their stronger players.

Unless all of your players are in active mode, you are in no position to say that time is hiding their players, because you are doing exactly the same thing. Wipe your tears, go back to the game, and smash something already (after you come out of d-mode, that is)  ;D
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 26, 2012, 01:33:27 PM
No point trying to debate with him. He doesnt actually comprehend the bullsh@t he is spouting... Waste of a good brain cell someone else could have benefitted from... Pointless arguing with a closed and unreceptive mind...

I doubt he will ever leave dmode...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Wow, great analysis.

Let's put it this way: If you drag big Time into the war officially, what difference will it make? Let's see...
1) Any weak player who wants to hide, still can hide
2) Any strong player who wants to fight, still can fight

Put 2+2 together, and that means your proposal is meaningless. It makes no difference. So...what are you here whining about again? The reality is: players from BOTH sides are shuffling themselves. Those who want to fight are fighting, those who want to hide are hiding. That occurs on BOTH sides.

All I see here are 2 alliances fighting, that's it.
BOTH of them are hiding some of their weak players.
BOTH of them are selecting their stronger players.

Unless all of your players are in active mode, you are in no position to say that time is hiding their players, because you are doing exactly the same thing. Wipe your tears, go back to the game, and smash something already (after you come out of d-mode, that is)  ;D


Who's whining?   I'm simply stating the facts.  It's you're ptoken that's hurt by it.    You do not make any since whatsoever ever.   It's like saying your driving a civic or a bus.  What's the difference as long as your still driving.   NOOOO, it is absolutely not the same.  The civic is small, fun and gets great gas mileage.

Let me put it in another terms.  It's like the fat chic you took home last night that you don't wanna tell your friends about.   Was the ride fun, sure but was it the same has a hot skinny blond that you can be proud of?   Maybe in your world where everything is the same because it's sorta similar it is, who knows.  Me I think fat girls need loving to but it's not what I'm really into mind you.   

Time has over 100 players that aren't fighting in this war.  Not all of them are in dip and don't have to be because they are in a 2nd alliance hidding.   They are wussing out by not fighting with all players.  They are the fat girl.  And no it is not the same and that is the difference. 

Let me spell it out to you.

The difference is Time is not fighting with all there members only a select few.  In anyone's mind but yours that would be different then fighting.   Roflmao.   I don't want to call you names but my god man, retard comes to mind.   
'what's the difference'. I can't help but to laugh.   If its all made up of the same atoms then it's no different in your eyes is it?   A cock is the same as a pussy?    A dog the same thing as a woman purhapes?   Do you like animal pron?   

You never told me what alliance you were in, why don't you share a little about yourself on here.

Same goes for you gordonk who is in retirement and no longer plays.  Why don't you also share something about your past life of playing.  You all know who I am, but then again I'm proud enough to tell you.   I guess you think that is the same as not being proud enough to tell you and sitting behind a fake alias. 

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: lazoputz on May 26, 2012, 03:14:33 PM
@kaork: Let me put it in another terms.  It's like the fat chic you took home last night that you don't wanna tell your friends about.   Was the ride fun, sure but was it the same has a hot skinny blond that you can be proud of?   Maybe in your world where everything is the same because it's sorta similar it is, who knows.  Me I think fat girls need loving to but it's not what I'm really into mind you.   

Well now I've heard everything, and can no longer bite my tongue by staying out of this. You sir, are some kind of very mean uneducated person, and if that gets me banned from this forum, sobeit.
This thread has devolved to the point where it should be locked, and the foul mouthed participants be banned from any further discussion about this so-called war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 26, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
War with Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Victory Points
209257
Victory Points
59098
As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.

    War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
    For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
    Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.

Supremacy Class Minutemen[time]
Plunder Points    Destroyed Ship Point    Victory Points    Starting Rank    Current Rank
46015788    163242    209257    36    13

Dominatus Class Dark Sphere of Omega 4000[Ω 4K]
Plunder Points    Destroyed Ship Point    Victory Points    Starting Rank    Current Rank
14719868    44379    59098    18    20
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 03:57:06 PM
@kaork: Let me put it in another terms.  It's like the fat chic you took home last night that you don't wanna tell your friends about.   Was the ride fun, sure but was it the same has a hot skinny blond that you can be proud of?   Maybe in your world where everything is the same because it's sorta similar it is, who knows.  Me I think fat girls need loving to but it's not what I'm really into mind you.   

Well now I've heard everything, and can no longer bite my tongue by staying out of this. You sir, are some kind of very mean uneducated person, and if that gets me banned from this forum, sobeit.
This thread has devolved to the point where it should be locked, and the foul mouthed participants be banned from any further discussion about this so-called war.


Lol I'm not mean at all, just bringing it down to a level he might could understand.   I'm actually one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet who goes out of the way for his tribe and even a stranger in the right situation.  I don't care for bullys in the game or in real life.  I was always the kid that would beat the hell out of someone for picking on someone smaller then they were.

Un-educated.  We only got books and shoes here last year while I haven't had time to read much I am fond of how now brown cow. 

Congrates on the points this morning.  We were drawing in tell this morning.  I see you found one of the lower rankers not hiding in another alliance.  Maybe since you have a good confortable lead your more willing to in hide some of your members so we have something to hit?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 26, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
Time has over 100 players that aren't fighting in this war.  Not all of them are in dip and don't have to be because they are in a 2nd alliance hidding.
You still don't understand do you? They don't NEED a 2nd alliance in order to hide, lol. You can hide just by clicking "Leave" (not to mention d/v/p-mode). Having a sister alliance is IRRELEVANT. You can hide just as well as them, and you are hiding.
There's no difference because:
1) Whoever wants to hide, still can hide (you can't control that)
2) Whoever wants to fight, still can fight (you can't control that)
Really it's simple. A child can understand this.
If you still can't comprehend, then try this: please point out a scenario where your proposal makes a difference. Can you FORCE anyone to fight, just by dragging Time into it? Nope, I told you so...

Time has over 100 Let me spell it out to you.

The difference is Time is not fighting with all there members only a select few.  In anyone's mind but yours that would be different then fighting.
...except, YOU are doing the same thing. How many of your players are in d/v/p-mode, or have abandoned your aliance? ;)


BTW, you better check what TomL just posted, and maybe come out of d-mode. Looks like you are losing pretty badly? LOL
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Well to answer your question we are still at lower percentage rate then time who has posted mine but yet to post theirs because they know it's true ':)'
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 26, 2012, 04:09:51 PM
Well to answer your question we are still at lower percentage rate then time who has posted mine but yet to post theirs because they know it's true ':)'
So basically you are whining, because you are losing. You admit: "Sure we are hiding, but I bet more of their players are hiding, so it's not fair! [insert crying emoticon]"

Yet, unless you have stats from BFG keeping track of exactly how many people has left each alliance, you don't actually know that.
And even if that's true, remember what I said earlier: each side has EQUAL chances to hide. Nobody is stopping anyone from hiding/fighting. Do whatever you want, within the rules of the game/war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 04:26:34 PM
So basically you are whining, because you are losing. You admit: "Sure we are hiding, but I bet more of their players are hiding, so it's not fair! [insert crying emoticon]"

Yet, unless you have stats from BFG keeping track of exactly how many people has left each alliance, you don't actually know that.
And even if that's true, remember what I said earlier: each side has EQUAL chances to hide. Nobody is stopping anyone from hiding/fighting. Do whatever you want, within the rules of the game/war.


Neg on the whining. Again stating facts, I think I even congratulated on your hit and asked if you would un-hide your members so we could have something to attack. Boy you guys are kings at 'inserting words into my mouth'.  While I like certain things in my mouth they are usually of the female verity.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 26, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
From Kaork:  "Congrates on the points this morning.  We were drawing in tell this morning.  I see you found one of the lower rankers not hiding in another alliance"

I wouldn't call someone ranked @#714 a "low-ranker"...  8)

And hurry up and come out of Dip... You started toggling out yesterday, but you must have cancelled and then toggled again... Hope to see you active soon! Join the fun!   ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 04:36:57 PM
From Kaork:  "Congrates on the points this morning.  We were drawing in tell this morning.  I see you found one of the lower rankers not hiding in another alliance"

I wouldn't call someone ranked @#714 a "low-ranker"...  8)

And hurry up and come out of Dip... You started toggling out yesterday, but you must have cancelled and then toggled again... Hope to see you active soon! Join the fun!   ;D


Ahh well a true congrates are in order then wild cat.  I'm still not certain who y'all hit but if indeed they were a 700 ranker then you did well.   
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: lazoputz on May 26, 2012, 04:41:21 PM
@Kaork : Congrates on the points this morning.  We were drawing in tell this morning.  I see you found one of the lower rankers not hiding in another alliance.  Maybe since you have a good confortable lead your more willing to in hide some of your members so we have something to hit?

You posted this comment within a message clearly directed at me, was it just a combined response that should have been directed elsewhere, or have you confused me with someone else. Just curious, is all.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 26, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
Hi, lazoputz...  I don't post a lot on the Forum here, so I apologize if my recent post included you... I was simply trying to say that the Omega guy who got hit is certainly not a noob or a low-ranked player...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: lazoputz on May 26, 2012, 05:16:08 PM
Not to worry, the comment I was addressing was posted by Kaork. Was just wondering if he had confused me with someone else, his "congrates" message was within the body of a comment that he was making to me.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 26, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
FWIW... I just checked the Database... There are only 9 players in Omega-4000 who are currently active... The rest are in D-mode, P-mode, or entering D-mode... How many people are in their alliance again?  ::)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 26, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
Oh, never mind, I just checked:

Kaork is the leader of the Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 alliance which has 92 members.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 26, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
Well, considering it is Memorial Day weekend, I expect to see a lot of American players in d, v, or p mode this weekend off to go camping, drink some beers, and enjoy the greatest country in the world (IMHO).  Enjoy having no life this weekend ;)

Love you long time,

Coma V

BTW your awesome database isn't up to date.  You should spend some more time scanning :P
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 26, 2012, 06:42:10 PM
Well to answer your question we are still at lower percentage rate then time who has posted mine but yet to post theirs because they know it's true ':)'
Lower percentage rate? Do the math, Kaork.
Time/time has 31 players active in the war out of 241 players
Omega has about 10 players active in the war out of 92 players

Like I said there are members hiding on BOTH sides.
...Yet, your whole complaint against time was that they were hiding their members (ie: exactly what you are doing?)
You are at least equally guilty as them for doing precisely what you accuse them of doing. The only difference is that they are actually winning the war, lol  8)

We can infer all kinds of real-life reasons/excuses/theories, like Memorial Day weekend, but don't tell me these reasons only apply to Omega, and not to time.
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 26, 2012, 06:45:07 PM
On that basis there are 3 times (no pun intended) more targets for 4k than there are for time ... 4k must be shit hunters if they cant hit them...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on May 26, 2012, 08:11:34 PM
Ok  then I said"Hey those are my sweets "

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 26, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
Lower percentage rate? Do the math, Kaork.
Time/time has 31 players active in the war out of 241 players
Omega has about 10 players active in the war out of 92 players

Like I said there are members hiding on BOTH sides.
...Yet, your whole complaint against time was that they were hiding their members (ie: exactly what you are doing?)
You are at least equally guilty as them for doing precisely what you accuse them of doing. The only difference is that they are actually winning the war, lol  8)

We can infer all kinds of real-life reasons/excuses/theories, like Memorial Day weekend, but don't tell me these reasons only apply to Omega, and not to time.

So now your including Time in those figures but Time isn't in the war.  You keep making my point and tge facts more and more clear.  Also do you not realize this is the week we are honoring our fallen solders?  I realize it started with Vietnam but we also honar all Fallen soldier including those that fail while leading the fight in a two war front against the Nazi's and the Japs durring world war 2.  Good thing they did as the world would be a much different place.  My many thanks and gratitude goes out to the real heros and their families of this country.  You should to.

I would hold my breath in wait for you to share who you really are and are with but I would surley die.

Enjoy
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 27, 2012, 02:43:55 AM
So now your including Time in those figures but Time isn't in the war.
Then do the math without including Time: that's 20 active players out of 119. Their participation level is now even higher, lol.

You keep making my point and tge facts more and more clear.
Indeed, it's very clear...
Your point: Their players are hiding, no fair! *tears*
The counterpoint: Your players are also hiding, it's fair :D

Just because time has a sister alliance, doesn't mean they can hide any better. You seem to have trouble understanding that. Here's an idiot's guide to hide from a war:

Step 1: click "Leave" alliance
(done)

Anyone can do this. You don't need a sister alliance to do this.

Also do you not realize this is the week we are honoring our fallen solders?
Yes, and you are not the only one. This point is irrelevant...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 02:53:51 AM
Then do the math without including Time: that's 20 active players out of 119. Their participation level is now even higher, lol.
Your point is that time players are hiding.
The counterpoint is that your players are also hiding.

I know, it's very clear, very simple. You are complaining about them doing something that you are also doing. Remember: just because time has a sister alliance, doesn't mean they can hide any better than you.
Yes, and you are not the only one. This point is irrelevant...

So just out of curiosity.  How many of those 20 time members are actually high ranking Time officers?

The rest I don't even need to comment on.  I Think you show your ignorance.  I'm not sure where your from but to me it be like having the brothers or jews fighting the war while all the high class people sit and drink wine and claim all the credit as soon as its over.  Mark my words it will happen.  If they lose then they will yell, great job you beat our Jews and brothers.  It's a real win win for all of us. - dripping sarcasm.  In anycase it doesn't matter cause Dark Shere will still be an awesome alliance that has stood the test of time against Time.   The end.  Thanks for playing





Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 27, 2012, 05:33:48 AM
So just out of curiosity.  How many of those 20 time members are actually high ranking Time officers?
None
(Correction: it should be 20 out of 108, since we are excluding the Time officers)

Just search them up, and click on their names to see their title in the alliance. Usually their rank gives it away. The very low ones are obviously native to little time. The very high ones are obviously the big Time officers, and their profile shows it.

Besides, didn't you challenge both of them? It's not like ALL of the participants are from Time. MOST of them are actually from little time. The big Time officers are a minority.

The rest I don't even need to comment on...
Of course, because you have nothing to say. Your whole complaint was moot to begin with. Like I said:
Your point: Their players are hiding, no fair!
The counterpoint: But...your players are also hiding :o
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
None
(Correction: it should be 20 out of 108, since we are excluding the Time officers)

Just search them up, and click on their names to see their title in the alliance. Usually their rank gives it away. The very low ones are obviously native to little time. The very high ones are obviously the big Time officers, and their profile shows it.

Besides, didn't you challenge both of them? It's not like ALL of the participants are from Time. MOST of them are actually from little time. The big Time officers are a minority.
Of course, because you have nothing to say. Your whole complaint was moot to begin with. Like I said:
Your point: Their players are hiding, no fair!
The counterpoint: But...your players are also hiding :o

And to finish the facts off since you seem to know so very much about the alliances (understanding you are yet just another member trying to cover thier arse in their own folly).   

How many players are in Big Time, and how many of those are active?   

You see, you seem to think it really matters.  The truth of it is this is all very fun and yet even more funny to me.   You say I'm calling 'not fair'.   I say I'm calling I TOLD YA SO.  And if you refers back to my very first comment of these boards you will see I did just that.   I knew the day that the Hen came over to pick a fight with my alliance how this would go.  It's gone that way before and will Always go that way when it comes to them.  That is the only way they will fight, but yet they are the one that will pick the fight and then run it dirty.    :). It's all good it's only fun and games.  I just enjoy letting the rest of the forums know what kinda players you are.  For weeks I was told I was yellow and a coward because I didn't want to accept the war with just Time.   They didn't think I'd actually send them the request when they finally accepted my request with little time but it was my intention to fight them both.    You guys want to put these two alliances of time and Time together when it's convinient and keep them separate when its not.  Case and fact let's keep them separate for now, And say it was Time that denied my war request, right?  Doesn't that make them yellow not wanting to fight  a 20 ranked alliance.  They sound scared to me.  Let's not forget that it was after they called me multiple names for weeks trying to get me to fight and swearig your two alliances were two separate alliances.  Seems you want to back tract on those statements now and turn the board into another topic so people don't notice.  Changing the subject here isn't going to work.  We are still an awesome alliance who gave both time/Time a war request of which you separate and singled little time accepted and big Time wussed out.   Seems like the training Alliance now has a bigger set of balls then it's 'sister' alliance, maybe Time should become the training alliance.   

And again thanks for helping me to make my point very clear.  No need to welcome me, I will do that myself.

Welcome

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 27, 2012, 07:44:19 AM
Quote
Case and fact let's keep them separate for now Ns say it was Time that denied my war request, right?  Doesn't that make them yellow not wanting to fight was a 20 ranked alliance.
You are fighting players from Time, right? So pick your own conclusion:
1) Are you saying that Time is involved in the war? If so, then they've accepted your request to fight.
or
2) Are you saying that Time has wussed out from the war? If so, then you are being owned by their little training alliance

Go ahead, pick your own conclusion to believe in.

You say I'm calling 'not fair'.   I say I'm calling I TOLD YA SO.
OK, so...
You say: They will hide their members, I told you so !
I say: You are hiding your members too.

Uh...well that was a pointless discussion. Here's a cookie for "predicting the future." Now let's get back to the war and battle reports!  :D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on May 27, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
Current War Stats:

Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000

Minutemen Victory Points 247,502

Omega-4000 Victory Points 59,482

As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.
•War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
•For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
•Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.

 Minutemen[time]
Plunder Points   Destroyed Ship Point   Victory Points   Starting Rank   Current Rank
84,260,688    163,242    247,502    36    13


 Dark Sphere of Omega 4000[Ω 4K]
Plunder Points   Destroyed Ship Point   Victory Points   Starting Rank   Current Rank
14,878,643    44,604    59,482    18    20
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
Here was Time/times little hit on my member yeterday.  While he had a good escuse, escuses are like assholes everyone's got'em and they all stink.   Congrates to Time/time.   I thought I'd post it for the forum since you didn't.


*****Defender: Damage Incorporated*****
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 300 of 300)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 50 of 50)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 56 of 56)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 31 of 31)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 6 of 6)

*****Defender: Damage Incorporated*****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 2385 of 2385)
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 481 of 481)
Apollo : 0 (Lost: 19 of 19)
Charon : 0 (Lost: 176 of 176)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 805 of 805)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 151 of 151)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 1439 of 1439)
Gaia : 0 (Lost: 3 of 3)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 631 of 631)
Hades : 0 (Lost: 238 of 238)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 341 of 341)






Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
You are fighting players from Time, right? So pick your own conclusion:
1) Are you saying that Time is involved in the war? If so, then they've accepted your request to fight.
or
2) Are you saying that Time has wussed out from the war? If so, then you are being owned by their little training alliance

Go ahead, pick your own conclusion to believe in.
OK, so...
You say: They will hide their members, I told you so !
I say: You are hiding your members too.

Uh...well that was a pointless discussion. Here's a cookie for "predicting the future." Now let's get back to the war and battle reports!  :D

Perzactly,
You again do exactly what I said you would. Roflmao.   Just go ahead and say whatever you want to Time/time Time or time.   Can't decide today weather to put yourself together or take yourself apart eh?   Yeah I can understand your confusion.

Your so confused that you forgot to post your own battle report.  Probably couldn't decide If a Time or time member did the hitting.  So I'd did it for you, your welcome again.

Are you another I shouldnt hold my breath to know who you are in the game?  How do I know you guys aren't all one person making different aliases so that you can keep talking and butchering yourselves in the processes.


Maybe you should change your name to Partial Time or Fraction Time.   Or maybe Pieces of Time.  what about Half hour,  or Almost a minute?    :).  I'm having to much fun with this, but is Almost time I take my kids to church.  Have fun
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 27, 2012, 02:59:22 PM
I did not post it on purpose. Mainly because my fleet wasnt back till 11pm and I then went to bed. My dios were out for a total of 5 hours after the attack and by posting battle reports you would have known who we hit and possible tracked my dio times down. We hit from 63 systems away, in an area full of (even though mostly non-active) 4000 players. We were just being careful.

This is the first time I have been online properly today. Your battle report above breaks BFG rules on battle reports. Here is the correct version, for my part of the battle at least.



The attacking side acquired 727,750 ore, 727,750 crystal, and 727,750 hydrogen.

Henrietta (ATTACKER) lost 7,565 RSP and gained 25,663 DSP. (more)
Damage Incorporated (DEFENDER) lost 76,989 RSP and gained 7,570 DSP. (more)
Mr. Chuckles (ATTACKER) lost 4 RSP and gained 25,663 DSP. (more)
Wild Cat* (ATTACKER) lost 1 RSP and gained 25,663 DSP. (more)

12,328,500 ore and 10,534,650 crystal are now floating at this location.


The following emerged from battle after 4 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Henrietta with 255,000,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hades : 2911  (Lost: 89 of 3000)
** Resources lost: 2,670,000 ore, 3,560,000 crystal, and 1,335,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 25,666

*****Attacker: Wild Cat* with 1,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0  (Lost: 1 of 1)
** Resources lost: 0 ore, 1,000 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 25,666

*****Attacker: Mr. Chuckles with 5,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 1  (Lost: 4 of 5)
** Resources lost: 0 ore, 4,000 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 25,666

*****Defender: Damage Incorporated with 76,998,500 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0  (Lost: 2385 of 2385)
Atlas : 0  (Lost: 481 of 481)
Apollo : 0  (Lost: 19 of 19)
Charon : 0  (Lost: 176 of 176)
Hercules : 0  (Lost: 805 of 805)
Dionysus : 0  (Lost: 151 of 151)
Poseidon : 0  (Lost: 439 of 439)
Gaia : 0  (Lost: 3 of 3)
Athena : 0  (Lost: 131 of 131)
Hades : 0  (Lost: 238 of 238)
Prometheus : 0  (Lost: 141 of 141)
** Ship Resources lost: 38,425,000 ore, 31,502,500 crystal, and 7,071,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 38,425,000 ore, 31,502,500 crystal, and 7,071,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 7,570

After 4 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 727,750 ore, 727,750 crystal, and 727,750 hydrogen.

To: Henrietta
Date: 2012-05-26 17:41:30 UTC
Ore: 12,328,500, Crystal: 10,534,650


KMC also hit the same guy ina different location.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 27, 2012, 06:11:44 PM
You again do exactly what I said you would. Roflmao.
So our exchange now goes like this...

Your point: time is hiding their members, I knew it !
My point: But you are also hiding your members ::)
Your response: I knew you were going to say that!

Uh, that doesn't actually add anything to your argument, but I can surely use that line in a debate. Whenever someone disagrees with me, I'll just say:
"I KNEW you were going to say that! Aha!"
...and everyone watching will think I'm totally in control of the debate, lmao


When it comes down to it:
Time/time is indeed hiding many of their members. But so are you.
You don't disagree with that, right? Of course not. Enough said.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
So our exchange now goes like this...

Your point: time is hiding their members, I knew it !
My point: But you are also hiding your members ::)
Your response: I knew you were going to say that!

Uh, that doesn't actually add anything to your argument, but I can surely use that line in a debate. Whenever someone disagrees with me, I'll just say:
"I KNEW you were going to say that! Aha!"
...and everyone watching will think I'm totally in control of the debate, lmao


When it comes down to it:
Time/time is indeed hiding many of their members. But so are you.
You don't disagree with that, right? Of course not. Enough said.



As I stated in another post we do not hide our members. Rof You would need a sister alliance for that and then send them to it.   As for your comment I believe I stated what you would do before you did it, thus the 'Ahh ha I knew it' was stated to let you know my statements were correct And in no way to set to control the debate. I see you feel like your in control and don't like it when your not.   To me the debate is stupid as its not much of a debate.  Still having fun,  happy momorial day weekend.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 27, 2012, 07:56:23 PM
As I stated in another post we do not hide our members. Rof You would need a sister alliance for that and then send them to it.
Wrong, you don't need a sister alliance to hide. You just have to click "Leave" alliance (not to mention d-mode, v-mode, or p-mode). A sister alliance is irrelevant.
Once you click "Leave" you are out of the war. No need for a sister alliance.

Our exchange still stands as so:
Your point: time is hiding their members, I knew it !
My point: But so are you.
Your response: I knew you were going to say that!   [nothing else to say...no real argument to add...]

Bottom line...
Most of their players are not active.
Most of your players are not active either.

Conclusion?
Both sides are hiding some of their members. Whatever you accuse them of doing, you are doing it as well. The only difference is that they are winning, and you are whining.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
Wrong, you don't need a sister alliance to hide. You just have to click "Leave" alliance (not to mention d-mode, v-mode, or p-mode). A sister alliance is irrelevant.
Once you click "Leave" you are out of the war. No need for a sister alliance.

Our exchange still stands as so:
Your point: time is hiding their members, I knew it !
My point: But so are you.
Your response: I knew you were going to say that! [nothing else to say...no real argument to add...]

Most of their players are not active in the war.
Most of your players are not active in the war either.

Conclusion?
Either both sides are hiding some of their members, or both sides are busy with Memorial Day weekend. Whatever you accuse them of doing, you are doing it as well.

You keep saying the same thing.  Blah blah blah.   Debate is stupid and it's over
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 27, 2012, 11:56:41 PM
This weekend is the weekend we Americans give our many thanks to all the fallen soldiers and those families that made the sacrifice that have fought in the wars that has made this country free and great. I would like to extend that thanks to all countries that have fought to make this world what it is. It takes us all to insure that the majority of this world stays free and great. Everyone have a awesome weekend and Memorial Day tomorrow. May God bless each and everyone of you and your families. Even those in Time/time.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 28, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Just wanted to point this one out and ask what Kaorks official position on this is.

I spotted an attack by Bledsokiller of the 4000 alliance earlier. Dios were sent 4 hours in advance to arrive at the correct time, oracle lock was set up... then he drops his tag and sends us this message.

Date: 2012-05-28 19:53:44 UTC
I know you will follow through with attack but I left alliance cause I want to play the game not be in dmode cause of a war that had nothing to do with me

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553569_10151755199550459_542430458_24278323_1965660764_n.jpg)

So Kaork, are you saying that it is ok for your players to do this?
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 28, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
Guilty as charged i think.... They must be learning from the Bat'leth v CcC's war....


Actions speak louder than words....

I would take that as a good hit....

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 28, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
Quote
I know you will follow through with attack but I left alliance cause I want to play the game not be in dmode cause of a war that had nothing to do with me
LOL, if that's true then time members can use the same excuse, right?
But Kaork, I thought time was fighting your "entire" alliance...  ???
So after so many days of fighting, your member "suddenly" realized this war doesn't involve him, and "just happened" to leave right before getting smashed? What a coincidence... ;D

Instead of accusing only you of hiding, I'll be fair and say:
BOTH sides (you and time) are hiding some of their members.
(Only difference is that they are winning)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 28, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Wow I see I get the entire gang of you once again.

Here is my stand.  No one told him to leave but he is free to do so at his will.  He won't be let back into the alliance.  I will say we have attempted to train him not to attack from his planet since he has a moon.  He doesn't listen and knew the next time Sean or I caught him doing this he was out anyway.  Good redence I say.   Maybe time can pick him up as a member cause he won't be returning to Dark Sphere again ever.

Have fun and nice olock. Sorry you don't get the points to count in the war.  Smart move by Bledsoe on that part but not nessararly condoned. 

As for the rest I hardly think you can compare this move to the same as hidding over 100 ayers from the war.   I think anyone not in Time or Those that doesn't have balls enough to to devoulge who they are but want to continue to talk crap in this board would agree with me.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on May 28, 2012, 11:16:22 PM
Just wanted to point this one out and ask what Kaorks official position on this is.

I spotted an attack by Bledsokiller of the 4000 alliance earlier. Dios were sent 4 hours in advance to arrive at the correct time, oracle lock was set up... then he drops his tag and sends us this message.

Date: 2012-05-28 19:53:44 UTC
I know you will follow through with attack but I left alliance cause I want to play the game not be in dmode cause of a war that had nothing to do with me

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553569_10151755199550459_542430458_24278323_1965660764_n.jpg)

So Kaork, are you saying that it is ok for your players to do this?

I will give you my response on the subject...

LOL - Bledsokiller FTW!  Eat that chicken lover - LMFAO - All is fair in war it seems ;) 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on May 29, 2012, 01:25:26 AM
For what it's worth -- bledsokiller didn't have a moon to attack from before he was hit.  I think it was unfortunate that he left Omega before losing his ships, which is why I'm not posting the battle report.  However -- the current stats are as follows:

War with Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Minutemen       VS   Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Victory Points         Victory Points
423106                  77342
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 02:15:32 AM
Ok. Maybe it was at another location.

I see you guys ninja'd manny attacking One of your 70 ranker.  Well done, that hurt. :P.  gotta hand it to him, the guy has some balls.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 02:16:15 AM
Ok. Maybe it was at another location.

I see you guys ninja'd manny attacking One of your 70 rankers.  Well done, that hurt. :P.  gotta hand it to him, the guy has some balls.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 29, 2012, 02:46:30 AM
Quote
As for the rest I hardly think you can compare this move to the same as hidding over 100 ayers from the war.
Most of time's players are not active.
Most of your players are not active either.

Both sides are hiding some of their players.
Both sides have the option to hide as many/few as they wish.
There's no difference, except that you are losing...and whining...

Apparently now the score is 423k (them) vs 77k (you) ? lol
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 02:56:44 AM
Most of time's players are not active.
Most of your players are not active either.

Both sides are hiding some of their players.
Both sides have the option to hide as many/few as they wish.
There's no difference, except that you are losing...and whining...

Apparently now the score is 423k (them) vs 77k (you) ? lol


Me:  you keep saying the same thing, I think we all know how you feel and refuse to tell us who you are.Not even posting the score helped as it was already posted.  Please add new content next time
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 29, 2012, 07:06:37 AM
Me:  you keep saying the same thing, I think we all know how you feel and refuse to tell us who you are.Not even posting the score helped as it was already posted.  Please add new content next time
You can't actually disprove what I said, so you resort to the "You-keep-saying-the-same-thing" retort?

Here I'll say it again, just to see you squirm:
Both sides (you and them) have many non-active players.
Call it hiding, call it whatever you want. But point is: you are both doing it.

Having settled that, let's get on with the war and see the results.
(By the way, you are kinda losing... might want to get out of d-mode)
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 29, 2012, 07:26:19 AM
As for the rest I hardly think you can compare this move to the same as hidding over 100 ayers from the war.   I think anyone not in Time or Those that doesn't have balls enough to to devoulge who they are but want to continue to talk crap in this board would agree with me.

K
oh ffs stfu .. Stop whining. time are handing you your ass on a plate. Your leadership is abysmal ... So players that dont want war go dmode . Big deal .. You do it they do it.

The facts are yoyr alliance already has 3 times as many targets as time do and you want more? Why is that? Is it because you guys cant play the game well enough?

I suggest your alliance vote to get rid of you oh great embarrasing leader...

Suck it up ..l you wanted war , you got it , you are getting beat ...try to be magnanimous in defeat ... Suggest you look up the meaning of that...

You are such a joke...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
oh ffs stfu .. Stop whining. time are handing you your ass on a plate. Your leadership is abysmal ... So players that dont want war go dmode . Big deal .. You do it they do it.

The facts are yoyr alliance already has 3 times as many targets as time do and you want more? Why is that? Is it because you guys cant play the game well enough?

I suggest your alliance vote to get rid of you oh great embarrasing leader...

Suck it up ..l you wanted war , you got it , you are getting beat ...try to be magnanimous in defeat ... Suggest you look up the meaning of that...

You are such a joke...


I believe this would be a Personal attack, from someone who doesn't even play anymore and deemed needs to be removed.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
To: Νικολας
Date: 2012-05-29 08:16:25 UTC
In the attack from Sylvia Saint ‎‎[xx:xxx:9] on ✪76 Timed fosters dog's ‎‎[xx:xxx:2m]:

The attacking side acquired 6,434,050 ore, 6,434,049 crystal, and 2,774,151 hydrogen.

Νικολας (ATTACKER) lost 81,951 RSP and gained 331,185 DSP. (less)

* Contributed 600,500 RSP to the battle.

* Lost 48,033,000 ore, 29,553,000 crystal, and 4,365,000 hydrogen in damages.


* Lost 3609 of 5000 Atlas Class Cargos (1391 remain).
* Lost 713 of 5000 Athena Class Battleships (4287 remain).
* Lost 291 of 3300 Hades Class Battleships (3009 remain).



Phille (DEFENDER) lost 331,211 RSP and gained 81,951 DSP. (less)

* Contributed 331,211 RSP to the battle.

* Lost 171,526,500 ore, 130,064,500 crystal, and 30,000,000 hydrogen in damages.


* Lost 963 of 963 Hermes Class Probes (0 remain).
* Lost 2509 of 2509 Artemis Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 1418 of 1418 Atlas Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 760 of 760 Apollo Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 5 of 5 Charon Class Transports (0 remain).
* Lost 3000 of 3000 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 1086 of 1086 Dionysus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 329 of 329 Poseidon Class Cruisers (0 remain).
* Lost 2 of 2 Gaia Class Colony Ships (0 remain).
* Lost 815 of 815 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 838 of 838 Hades Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Ares Class Bombers (0 remain).
* Lost 904 of 904 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Zeus Classes (0 remain).
* Lost 6 of 6 Missile Batteries (0 remain).
* Lost 3 of 3 Laser Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Particle Cannons (0 remain).




65,862,300 ore and 47,883,000 crystal are now floating at this location.

See more...

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on May 29, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
That was a good hit -- now it's up to our side to counter :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 29, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
Steelys ninjas

Manny DeSilvia led an attack on steely at KrazatoriumKristy's ‎‎‎[].
The following emerged from battle after 6 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Manny DeSilvia with 141,186,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Hades : 304 (Lost: 1357 of 1661)
** Resources lost: 40,710,000 ore, 54,281,000 crystal, and 20,355,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 11,999

*****Defender: steely with 173,556,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 7 (Lost: 113 of 120)
Artemis : 8 (Lost: 192 of 200)
Atlas : 47 (Lost: 603 of 650)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 2 of 2)
Hades : 1898 (Lost: 102 of 2000)
Missile : 84 (Lost: 1185 of 1269)
Laser : 5 (Lost: 104 of 109)
Pulse : 1 (Lost: 14 of 15)
Particle : 3 (Lost: 5 of 8)
Decoy : 1
Gauss : 3 (Lost: 1 of 4)
Large decoy: 1
** Ship Resources lost: 4,862,000 ore, 5,603,000 crystal, and 1,534,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 7,502,000 ore, 5,728,000 crystal, and 1,536,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 115,346

After 6 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.


13,671,600 ore and 17,967,900 crystal are now floating at this location.





Manny DeSilvia led an attack on steely at KrazatoriumKristy's ‎‎‎[].
The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Manny DeSilvia with 60,001,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 1 of 1)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 1000 of 1000)
** Resources lost: 45,000,000 ore, 15,001,000 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 419

*****Defender: steely with 161,557,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 4 (Lost: 3 of 7)
Artemis : 3 (Lost: 5 of 8)
Atlas : 33 (Lost: 14 of 47)
Hades : 1894 (Lost: 4 of 1898)
Missile : 612 (Lost: 262 of 874)
Laser : 50 (Lost: 27 of 77)
Pulse : 8 (Lost: 2 of 10)
Particle : 4 (Lost: 2 of 6)
Decoy : 1
Gauss : 4
Large decoy: 1
** Ship Resources lost: 163,000 ore, 196,000 crystal, and 60,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 743,500 ore, 225,500 crystal, and 60,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 60,001

After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.


27,220,500 ore and 22,527,000 crystal are now floating at this location.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 VS Minutemen
VICTORY POINTS
424569
VICTORY POINTS
505389



And the Dark Sphere is back in this with a great hit by Nik.   Woot!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Phille on May 29, 2012, 11:26:28 AM
Where are your Great hits Kaork? the onley thing you seem to be hitting is the Toggle D-mode button for over a week!
Congrats Nik on the hit, like i told ya we will see each other on the battlefield again before the war is over.
Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 11:30:24 AM
Where are your Great hits Kaork? the onley thing you seem to be hitting is the Toggle D-mode button for over a week!
Congrats Nik on the hit, like i told ya we will see each other on the battlefield again before the war is over.
Happy hunting!



I think we might have another troll in the mist

My team just scored a great hit, I believe that would be a congrates to all but since you want to single people out, where are yours?

Over a week eh?  Wow.   How bout 3 days arse munch.  Seems you neither count nor read.  I might just re toggle again if i chose how does that strike yah?  As promissed and as Dark Sphere stand by there word I will be out of d this week.  I want to further point out its just like A Time/time member to try and cover face by trolling such as this.    I can't stand trolls, geez. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Phille on May 29, 2012, 11:43:57 AM
indeed Your Team did a hit. true. aldo it was onley Nik.
toggle Dmode onley take's 24h. not a week do.
and lets keep it polite karok...there's no honor in profianity.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 11:57:46 AM
indeed Your Team did a hit. true. aldo it was onley Nik.
toggle Dmode onley take's 24h. not a week do.
and lets keep it polite karok...there's no honor in profianity.

Polite?   Polite would be not to harras me about spending memorial day with my kids but as you can read from the multiple post I've been harassed by all of ya.  I do more for my alliance in a day then you do in a year.    I'd suggest you remove your post and I'll do the same.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Νικολας on May 29, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
I dont write here too often , I thought though that this is a game . We all have real lifes as well. kaork is not all of the Ω4Κ all by him self. if you cant target Kaork then try targeting someone else , like you have that is.me and Phille we'll have our ships mingled again, and I hope this time at least I get some of that debree  :P
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Phille on May 29, 2012, 12:21:28 PM
Hehe be sure to bring nitro powerd Dio's with you Nik! :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on May 29, 2012, 12:23:24 PM
so kaork, how you liking jaycee's account?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on May 29, 2012, 12:33:29 PM
we have both just had good solid hits mine and niks so lets keep it polite,congratulate each other on them and move on to the next  :)

kaork stop using excuses and just come out and fight you can allways frs if your as busy as you say at least then it would stop people as you say having a go at you,so you bring it on yourself,people are not that interested in you,its only because you are there leader that people are having a pop as you have been in constant d mode since this began over a week ago.

those that are ACTIVE in this war i take my hat off to you all for making this interesting  ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 01:50:08 PM
so kaork, how you liking jaycee's account?

Mf, I have Commented on this in previous post.  How was lossing your heph? :)

we have both just had good solid hits mine and niks so lets keep it polite,congratulate each other on them and move on to the next  :)

kaork stop using excuses and just come out and fight you can allways frs if your as busy as you say at least then it would stop people as you say having a go at you,so you bring it on yourself,people are not that interested in you,its only because you are there leader that people are having a pop as you have been in constant d mode since this began over a week ago.

those that are ACTIVE in this war i take my hat off to you all for making this interesting  ;)

Steely spending time with my kids will never be an escuse and I do as I've always done and drop d to spend time with them.    I have simply stated reason to the questions and personal harrasment.   I don't see any Dark sphere in here commenting on the leaders of time or Time including myself.  It's your team that likes to do these things.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on May 29, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
you wont find anyone commenting on the leaders of time/Time here because there not stuck in d mode from the day a war started thats why you are being commented on,if you dident want this to be the case you should have done one of 2 things delay the start of the war until you there leader is actually ready to fight in one or toggle out of d and be there to support your team mates,being stuck where you are you cant do that except with empty words,
we all have kids/family and work the game in around them as allways thats not the problem,the problem is that you started a war that you personally were not ready to participate in and have left the active mem bers of your alliance to fight it on there own for over a week now,this is why people get personal with you,
me personally i dont care if you come out or not, the boards and your actions are speaking for them selves,your alliance is doing well without you and are proving they dont even need you.
so i will say cudos to your members for fighting without you :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Νικολας on May 29, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
come on everybody , lets burn some hydro, lets create some huge debree fields and allow anyone to play this game the way they like it in their own time. Reality for some is closer than for some others, and that interferes with games, but lets face it , most of us in here are not school boys with tons of free time .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxATOF4C7w
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
you wont find anyone commenting on the leaders of time/Time here because there not stuck in d mode from the day a war started thats why you are being commented on,if you dident want this to be the case you should have done one of 2 things delay the start of the war until you there leader is actually ready to fight in one or toggle out of d and be there to support your team mates,being stuck where you are you cant do that except with empty words,
we all have kids/family and work the game in around them as allways thats not the problem,the problem is that you started a war that you personally were not ready to participate in and have left the active mem bers of your alliance to fight it on there own for over a week now,this is why people get personal with you,
me personally i dont care if you come out or not, the boards and your actions are speaking for them selves,your alliance is doing well without you and are proving they dont even need you.
so i will say cudos to your members for fighting without you :)

Make sure you get your facts straight.  I dropped d mode a week before the war started :). And I told everyone I was doing it prior to the start of the war.

I also congrats my guys for doing a great job in the war without me while I was away but here to direct both traffic, tactics and put up with y'all.



I have some very intersting information coming up. Stay tuned
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 29, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
come on everybody , lets burn some hydro, lets create some huge debree fields and allow anyone to play this game the way they like it in their own time. Reality for some is closer than for some others, and that interferes with games, but lets face it , most of us in here are not school boys with tons of free time .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxATOF4C7w
Now we are talking! Very nice hit, congratulations. Maybe you should take over the alliance instead of that whining Kaork.
More action from both sides, and less whining.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 29, 2012, 02:40:29 PM
Now begging for a change of leadership, running scared are we?

More to come
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on May 29, 2012, 02:59:08 PM
Lol kaork d mode must be a different game you are playing. I have never lost my heph.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on May 29, 2012, 03:00:25 PM
And please kaork learn how to spell.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: vanvely on May 29, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
Now begging for a change of leadership, running scared are we?

More to come
*confused* Having Niko take over as leader would only strengthen Omega 4000.
Are you saying you are better than Niko?

Like I said all along, there was nothing for either side to whine about. Both are hiding some of their players.
Whichever side makes a hit, congrats. But point is: stop whining and start fighting. This seems like a fair war as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Phille on May 29, 2012, 10:29:26 PM
at leaste some are willing to fight! i like a good honest battle , yes sometimes RL catches up on us. some may win and some loose at least it keeps the game going! we all made good friends here dont we !
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 30, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Kaork is hiding. But he is easy to find.... Listen to the chicken noises to find him ... Lmao..

And yes very nice hit Nik ... And Tom.....

Here chicky, chicky.....
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 30, 2012, 01:53:22 PM
@kaork ...Oh and i am in vmode - doesnt matter that i am not actively playing right now... I got a high enough ranking before relaxing here .... Not sure you really know who i am .... I will come back when my real life allows.. By then of course you will be fleetless ..unless you remain in dmode of course..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mightypotter1 on May 30, 2012, 02:10:59 PM
Does this look like an alliance leader that is serious about going to war?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/166720_10151716883575459_542430458_24126260_286422688_n.jpg)

All talk, no action.

This behaviour by an Alliance leader is seriously too pathetic!! It's made us all laugh out loud lots of times.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on May 30, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
@potter well ya that is not even his account someone gave that to him. They knew the account would be safe because he is always in d-mode.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 30, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
This behaviour by an Alliance leader is seriously too pathetic!! It's made us all laugh out loud lots of times.

I don't know why you are even trying to troll.  My planet  haven't been named that in near 2 weeks ;), nor is it even in that location.   Nice try though but I'm out of dmode and hitting your members. Tell them to hide.

Mindflux - how quickly you forget. Good thing you taught me so well when I was just a pup, oh wait do I have that right?   This comes from someone who mulches from his friend yip all these years to increase himself while his friend takes the hit on rank and his own game.  You forget I know who you really are.   How's Charlie?  Actually, you don't have to answer that.   I know cause I still get updates now and then.  Have a nice day
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mightypotter1 on May 30, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
I don't know why you are even trying to troll.  My planet  haven't been named that in near 2 weeks ;), nor is it even in that location.   Nice try though but I'm out of dmode and hitting your members. Tell them to hide.

OH NOOOOO! I've been called a troll ;) If I want to comment in any thread I will do. I think it's called free speech or something!
Awesome stuff, I'll tell my members you're hitting us. Check your logs, I just probed you. Come get me, YOU come get me, if I can resort to symbolism rather than name calling, imagine me standing in front of you smoking a cigar, suddenly I blow smoke in your face............... your move.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Thutmose III on May 30, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
kaork, i hope you are leaving d mode. a leader who sits in d mode as his alliance fights is not right

RL may well be busy, if so, how about a temporary change of leadership? leading by example goes a long way to boost your alliance, while doing nothing has an even bigger negative effect

consider my thoughts, and do what you feel best for your friends
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on May 30, 2012, 03:56:45 PM
As it was mentioned in a previous " burn the hydro and attack" or be a chicken and stay in d. :-X

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 30, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
OH NOOOOO! I've been called a troll ;) If I want to comment in any thread I will do. I think it's called free speech or something!
Awesome stuff, I'll tell my members you're hitting us. Check your logs, I just probed you. Come get me, YOU come get me, if I can resort to symbolism rather than name calling, imagine me standing in front of you smoking a cigar, suddenly I blow smoke in your face............... your move.


Your right, you have the right to say whatever you want.  You also have the right to look stupid for pointing out false facts when your called out on them.

Personally I think all your tactics are silly.  You guys talk about all the talking im doing in response to yours, yet use all sorts of silly tactics trying to cause internal problems, calling for leadership changes continued nagging and whining about little old me being in d even though I'm not. We arent far behind you in points yet we are going up against an alliance ranks almost twice as high as we are, with the help of Time protecting most of your members not in dmode, who wont even join the war other then the officers that came over to help get your points for you.  Need I say anything more?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on May 30, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
cudos to this guy for trying at least some in omega are trying to fight and not running away G6 springs to mind kaork pmsl.

another couple of ninjas. 8)


Darth Count Seneca led an attack on steely at Sodium Pentathol ‎‎[xxxxxx].
The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Darth Count Seneca with 8,695,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Artemis : 0  (Lost: 200 of 200)
Hercules : 0  (Lost: 100 of 100)
Poseidon : 0  (Lost: 100 of 100)
Hades : 0  (Lost: 2 of 2)
Prometheus : 0  (Lost: 29 of 29)
** Resources lost: 5,000,000 ore, 3,030,000 crystal, and 665,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 696

*****Defender: steely with 182,908,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hercules : 234  (Lost: 7 of 241)
Dionysus : 3016  (Lost: 34 of 3050)
Poseidon : 4
Prometheus : 1000
** Ship Resources lost: 382,000 ore, 246,000 crystal, and 68,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 382,000 ore, 246,000 crystal, and 68,000 hydrogen.

** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 8,695

After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.


1,614,600 ore and 989,100 crystal are now floating at this location.




Darth Count Seneca led an attack on steely at Sodium Pentathol ‎‎[xxxxxx].
The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: Darth Count Seneca with 4,580,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hercules : 0  (Lost: 100 of 100)
Poseidon : 0  (Lost: 100 of 100)
Athena : 0  (Lost: 8 of 8)
** Resources lost: 2,960,000 ore, 1,420,000 crystal, and 200,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 90

*****Defender: steely with 182,212,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hercules : 234
Dionysus : 3011  (Lost: 5 of 3016)
Poseidon : 4
Prometheus : 1000
** Ship Resources lost: 50,000 ore, 30,000 crystal, and 10,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 50,000 ore, 30,000 crystal, and 10,000 hydrogen.

** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 4,580

After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.


2,517,600 ore and 1,424,100 crystal are now floating at this location.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on May 30, 2012, 05:00:56 PM
Call you the ninja- king steely .

How many ninjas can 1 do in a war?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on May 30, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
dunno is there a limit lol  ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on May 30, 2012, 05:32:21 PM
charleigh is doing good kaork she is turning 2 tomorrow. But I do not know what you mean by mulches off of yip?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 30, 2012, 05:40:18 PM
For someone that is apparently now active in the war, why abandon the key war area? You moved there to try and protect your members from me, now you move away? Those chicken noises Klinghorn was making come to mind. Notice a lack of Kaork in this system?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546192_10151762112665459_2069966691_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 30, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
For someone that is apparently now active in the war, why abandon the key war area? You moved there to try and protect your members from me, now you move away? Those chicken noises Klinghorn was making come to mind. Notice a lack of Kaork in this system?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546192_10151762112665459_2069966691_n.jpg)


I'm scared of you Hen
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 30, 2012, 06:51:06 PM

I'm scared of you Hen

Good of you to admit it!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 30, 2012, 07:49:09 PM
Good of you to admit it!

I'm guessing you didnt hear my dripping sarcasm in my post
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 03:24:15 AM
James and I on this one.

While he came out a little better then we did on DSP we were taking the ruthless approach. Sometimes it takes a few men to make a big impact.

Sender Subject Received
Battle Report for 7Jiberich ‎[2] 10 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-31 02:17:47 UTC
In the attack from moon 2 ‎‎‎[m] on 7Jiberich ‎‎‎[2]:

The attacking side acquired 39,137 ore, 61,762 crystal, and 73,294 hydrogen.

Kaork (ATTACKER) lost 6,806 RSP and gained 4,207 DSP. (more) (less)

* Contributed 154,193 RSP to the battle. * Lost 4,967,000 ore, 1,831,000 crystal, and 110,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Lost 781 of 4554 Artemis Class Fighters (3773 remain).
* Lost 204 of 3544 Apollo Class Fighters (3340 remain).
* Lost 40 of 1195 Poseidon Class Cruisers (1155 remain).
* Lost 12 of 828 Athena Class Battleships ( 816 remain).
* Lost 2 of 274 Hades Class Battleships ( 272 remain).


James B Ricker (ATTACKER) lost 7,158 RSP and gained 4,207 DSP. (more) (less)

* Contributed 670,298 RSP to the battle. * Lost 4,450,000 ore, 2,229,000 crystal, and 479,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Lost 52 of 1507 Poseidon Class Cruisers (1455 remain).
* Lost 58 of 3384 Athena Class Battleships (3326 remain).
* Lost 23 of 1802 Hades Class Battleships (1779 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1014 Ares Class Bombers (1013 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1433 Prometheus Class Destroyers (1432 remain).


Jiberich (DEFENDER) lost 80,247 RSP and gained 13,964 DSP. (more) (less)

* Contributed 80,247 RSP to the battle. * Lost 47,384,000 ore, 24,943,000 crystal, and 7,920,000 hydrogen in damages.
* Lost 9 of 9 Hermes Class Probes (0 remain).
* Lost 2075 of 2075 Artemis Class Fighters (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Atlas Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 2 of 2 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Dionysus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 5665 of 5665 Missile Batteries (0 remain).
* Lost 7296 of 7296 Laser Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 582 of 582 Particle Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 287 of 287 Pulse Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 164 of 164 Gauss Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 253 of 253 Plasma Cannons (0 remain).



4,713,300 ore and 1,853,700 crystal are now floating at this location.
There was a 20.0% chance that a moon would form from the debris.
A new moon did form from the wreckage.


See more...



time losses:
plasmas - 9,650,000
guas - 2,294,000
particles - 1,288,000
pulse - 912,000
laser - 4,832,000
missles - 3,566,00
ships - 8,401,000

Total loses 24,171,000

oh and we will pick up the debry.

enjoy facing The Dark Sphere Time, we don't care about losing a few points.. we are going to waist your ships and D.


So before the attack and Debry grab we were just over 125k points behind



Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 VS Minutemen
VICTORY POINTS
442052
VICTORY POINTS
560722
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zuk on May 31, 2012, 04:06:18 AM
you should take out the coords on this hit.

but way to go kaork. :) nice job. keep em coming.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 04:09:43 AM
Yeah prob but i wanted to let mr p mode.  I mean the hen know I was still sitting right beside him.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 31, 2012, 07:44:52 AM
I have known since yesterday that you were besides me in 161.

Your battle report breaks forum rules, needs changing.

Im sure jiberich will thank you for the moon!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
Yea I figured hen would find some way to belittle something just like they belittled Niks 100mil Debry field he caused by turning this back into a Kaork roast.  Moved that hit on up the board pages eh hen?    You do realize you just belittle yourself when you do things like that.   Tell your member to enjoy he's extremly expensive moon.    I hope he enjoys having three in the same sector cause we are gonna give him a third one.   

You knew I was sitting beside you?  But hen I'm scared of you remember, reason I was the first to come sit beside you in g6 before the war started.  But then again you an team will try any tactic you can to save face wont you?  Tell the penuts gallary absolutely anything you think they want to hear, truth or lie?

Are you gonna stay outta pmode for more then 2 hours at a time or are you gonna live there?   Heard you lost a massive fleet to onix the other day, way to be really good,


at sucking!  Keep talking, we like it when you get angry.

K

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Major Overkill on May 31, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
Am i right in thinking your both close or over 500k points each!!!! What id give to be involved in a REAL war! kudos to both, regardless if you dont like each other. Personal feelings aside, this is how war should be :). Im going to play peanut gallery here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on May 31, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
Take a few steps back, think about what your writting and then write. How have I belittled anything, either your hit or Niks? How have I turned this into a Kaork roast? I suggest you look back and provide evidence or realise that it is the little voices in your head talking to you again. Nik made a great hit, nobody can deny that.

We do not need to save face, you are doing that for us with your repeated and unfounded allegations.

Onyx? I have never lost a fleet to Onyx so I have no clue what you are talking about there. Last time I met onyx on the battlefield was months and months ago when I ninjad Hydro Hog who was attacking my moon, I have good relations with him though, I also have good relations with their leader. Again, take two steps back, look at the evidence, make sure what you are writting is factual and then continue writting. The claim I lost a fleet to onyx is plain and simply false.

I am in Pmode because im due at work in about 30 mins, I will be back out of pmode later on, just as I always am. Your 2 hour claim is again unfounded. I come out whenever I am online for as long as I am online for. Usually for about 5 hours in a morning and about 6 hours in an evening.

I have never gotten angry at your or any of your alliance, it seems to me Kaork, that you are yet again trying to turn this thread from what had become a thread about war into more personal insults. Get over it and play the game as it should be played. I congratulate you for finding your way out of dmode finally.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
Take a few steps back, think about what your writting and then write. How have I belittled anything, either your hit or Niks? How have I turned this into a Kaork roast? I suggest you look back and provide evidence or realise that it is the little voices in your head talking to you again. Nik made a great hit, nobody can deny that.

We do not need to save face, you are doing that for us with your repeated and unfounded allegations.

Onyx? I have never lost a fleet to Onyx so I have no clue what you are talking about there. Last time I met onyx on the battlefield was months and months ago when I ninjad Hydro Hog who was attacking my moon, I have good relations with him though, I also have good relations with their leader. Again, take two steps back, look at the evidence, make sure what you are writting is factual and then continue writting. The claim I lost a fleet to onyx is plain and simply false.

I am in Pmode because im due at work in about 30 mins, I will be back out of pmode later on, just as I always am. Your 2 hour claim is again unfounded. I come out whenever I am online for as long as I am online for. Usually for about 5 hours in a morning and about 6 hours in an evening.

I have never gotten angry at your or any of your alliance, it seems to me Kaork, that you are yet again trying to turn this thread from what had become a thread about war into more personal insults. Get over it and play the game as it should be played. I congratulate you for finding your way out of dmode finally.




So answer me this:  you deny losing a fleet to onyx, but don't deny losing one.  :). Good little test of mine, so why don't ya tell us what you lost and to who.

Out of p mode for 11 hours but in p mode for the 8-10 you work and also in p mode while you sleep.  What you claim your sleeping 2 hours?   there are only 24 hours in the day where I'm from. I don't know where your from.

What had become a war board, post proof?   The proof is all Over these 21 pages. Roflmao.  No one has to read it twice to know that this board has been nothing mOre then a roast between me and about 7 of your buds and a few battle reports. 

Never got mad.....   Hahahahaha.  Your anger shows Dailey.  Rof

Don't need to save face?  Just like you don't need to use Tatics to try to cause the same internal issues your having for us by having post on this board personally attacking me and the leadership I've been in for the past 3 years, right?   I'm sorry to say but I don't think any of my guys but me even read this crap anymore and I'm about to stop waisting my time on you as well.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 31, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
For someone that is apparently now active in the war, why abandon the key war area? You moved there to try and protect your members from me, now you move away? Those chicken noises Klinghorn was making come to mind. Notice a lack of Kaork in this system?

Image removed because it is not necessary

The narcissism drips in this post to think you are the main interest in this war TomL. Yes, your interest in our core area trap down in G6 has now pulled all the M&M's into a conflict of epic proportion.

Really? this is 'the key war area' ... how so ... 1918 of you to think in trench warfare terms. quite quaint if you ask me. Has history not allowed you to examine modern tactics?

ww1 trench warfare expensive and costly
ww2 war on multiple fronts
Korean war stalemate, still in war but truce because ww2 tactics no longer worked against a flood of human targets
Vietnam war Guerrilla warfare won out but the Cavalry still won the day
Iraq War fast attack, hit and move on, Superior air power and bomb the infrastructure

I am sure I'm missing some more lessons but that will suffice to get my point across.

To think in 1 or 2 dimensions is to eventually lose the war, so you go ahead and think that way while we move Planets, Heph's and MAC's to anywhere in the 35 known galaxies of SFCO the M&M's fall out of the bag.

We'll be seeing you around the next turning of the small arm of the clock
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 02:27:03 PM
The narcissism drips in this post to think you are the main interest in this war TomL. Yes, your interest in our core area trap down in G6 has now pulled all the M&M's into a conflict of epic proportion.

Really? this is 'the key war area' ... how so ... 1918 of you to think in trench warfare terms. quite quaint if you ask me. Has history not allowed you to examine modern tactics?

ww1 trench warfare expensive and costly
ww2 war on multiple fronts
Korean war stalemate, still in war but truce because ww2 tactics no longer worked against a flood of human targets
Vietnam war Guerrilla warfare won out but the Cavalry still won the day
Iraq War fast attack, hit and move on, Superior air power and bomb the infrastructure

I am sure I'm missing some more lessons but that will suffice to get my point across.

To think in 1 or 2 dimensions is to eventually lose the war, so you go ahead and think that way while we move Planets, Heph's and MAC's to anywhere in the 35 known galaxies of SFCO the M&M's fall out of the bag.

We'll be seeing you around the next turning of the small arm of the clock

+1
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 06:47:22 PM
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000 VS Minutemen
VICTORY POINTS
468774
VICTORY POINTS
567120
As of the latest intel, Minutemen is winning the war.
War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC
For this war, the points to victory are 1,000,000
Battles against inactive players will NOT count towards the war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on May 31, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Kudos to Ricker for his hit.  I became tied up at office with training.  Can't complain.  Just glad that he didn't get the debris from my cargos and dios :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 10:08:02 PM
Kudos to big Time members striking my d with missiles in g7 and leveling it for little time.   Yeah we aren't fighting two alliances at all ;)

K
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on May 31, 2012, 10:26:44 PM
Suck it up...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 10:34:45 PM
Suck it up...

Hey that's how the cookie crumbles I have no worries and there is nothing to suck up thanks very much. Just letting the rest of the forums know what kinda players Time is.  If you have a problem with that, u suck it up!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 10:41:54 PM
All is fair in love and War


Jason, May 31 15:35 (EDT):
If you are at war with the player then all attacks are legal.

Blue Frog Gaming Support



300:57:50
Attack    Hell is coming ‎‎[8]    with tail between legs ‎‎[5m]   x1
Formation Recall

601:56:14
Return    with tail between legs ‎‎[5m]    Hell is coming ‎‎[8]   x1


Let it be know Hen is currently time when this attack started just in case he gets the idea to run back to Big time for cover

5    Colony        Henrietta #249       time              


I can see the Skype session with your BFG friends now Tom.   Have fun dropping d or fleet saving like the rest of us.  Bet you cry to Jason and Matt. 

Wild cat your next, best just to stay in p

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on May 31, 2012, 10:57:12 PM
An incoming attack does not prevent you from activating neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on May 31, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
An incoming attack does not prevent you from activating neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Unless they changed this in the last couple of days this is a false statement.  It does prevent you from entering p mode.  We have tested it.  Which is why in our Bat'leth war they proceeded to nuke us since we had attacks going against them to prevent them entering p mode.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on May 31, 2012, 11:16:15 PM
An incoming attack does not prevent you from activating neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Dang I guess I need to submit a bug report because it definitely prevented me from activating. Or is this just a feature that does not apply to time players?

Not accusing just suggesting...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 11:19:03 PM
Unless they changed this in the last couple of days this is a false statement.  It does prevent you from entering p mode.  We have tested it.  Which is why in our Bat'leth war they proceeded to nuke us since we had attacks going against them to prevent them entering p mode.


Yeah but see we are fighting a owned alliance. They can twist the rules to fit there needs.  Isn't that right Time.  And u did just that I'm sure, I'm sure it was just changed as a matter of fact and it was done without anyone knowing a bout it.  Nice bend guys. I solute you.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on May 31, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
Suggesting that am item only works for one alliance is completely absurd. Items work the same for all players ans there is nothing about an incoming attack that should prevent you from entering neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on May 31, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
Suggesting that am item only works for one alliance is completely absurd. Items work the same for all players ans there is nothing about an incoming attack that should prevent you from entering neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Must be a bug in the game then.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 11:29:35 PM
Suggesting that am item only works for one alliance is completely absurd. Items work the same for all players ans there is nothing about an incoming attack that should prevent you from entering neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus


Thats cause you just changed it!!!! Rof. I've tested this myself and no for a fact it worked just yesterday.  But thanks for making stuff up in the game as you go it makes me really want to keep playing and promoting your game.    Good thing I haven't been doing that for 3 years just for you to pull something like this on me.   I'll be sure to let everyone know.  And you also know you play the game and I never said it only works for one alliance. I suggested you changed it cause we are fighting you.  I'm sure you don't like being called out and will ban me from your forum. To ahead cause you apparently do anything you want to anyway and have no one to answer to. So when you do go ahead and take my fleet to so everyone here knows what I say is true.

I say everyone tell Matt to turn the rule back on until it can be changed properly and not in the middle of this war.  Since I can't  call that cheating per your one and only real rule on these forums then I won't.  But dang I sure want to.   You just had 4 people post that they know this rule was just changed and you changed it, admit it and change it back.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on May 31, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
Did you test it Kaork?  If they just changed this that is messed up.  Bat'leth went to BFG and complained about it too.  What a bunch of whiny crybabies.  The squeaky wheel gets the oil I guess. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on May 31, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
We have never prevented a player from activating neutrality while under attack. Doing so would be counter to our standards of allowing players to enter diplomacy or vacation while under attack. If you weren't able to toggle neutrality then it was a bug and should be reported as soon as it occurs so we can examine all activity on your account to make sure it is working as intended.

I believe if you search my posts on the forum you will consistently find that I have stated you should be able to enter neutrality protection while under attack.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: commander twilight on May 31, 2012, 11:38:56 PM
Its ok boys, we all know matts account is part of batleth.
He changes the rules to his own deigsn so he can win a war he cant win on his own.

He doesnt understand any honor like most of us, and has destroyed the game, therefore losing BFG a lot of money in the process. But if he wants to cheat his way playing his account by changing rules and deleting posts to cover his tracks then he can do as he wishes.
If he actually answered truthfully once we might listen to him, but seeing as he cant well the game is due to become something of the past.

Here we go, just as i was about to post he replies, yet again covering his tracks as i thought he would.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on May 31, 2012, 11:39:37 PM
We have never prevented a player from activating neutrality while under attack. Doing so would be counter to our standards of allowing players to enter diplomacy or vacation while under attack. If you weren't able to toggle neutrality then it was a bug and should be reported as soon as it occurs so we can examine all activity on your account to make sure it is working as intended.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

I know Bat'leth sent a ton of support tickets complaining about this.  They were responded with 'All attacks, even slow ones, are allowed in time of war.'  But there was one player, who I won't name, who said that his wife was in the hospital and that our slow attacks against him were causing a major inconvenience since he was unable to enter p mode.  BFG responded with canceling our slow attacks against that player so he could safely enter p mode.  So BFG knew about it. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: commander twilight on May 31, 2012, 11:40:04 PM
Hey matt, show some guts and actually dont delete posts for once and reply like you really should.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
We have never prevented a player from activating neutrality while under attack. Doing so would be counter to our standards of allowing players to enter diplomacy or vacation while under attack. If you weren't able to toggle neutrality then it was a bug and should be reported as soon as it occurs so we can examine all activity on your account to make sure it is working as intended.

I believe if you search my posts on the forum you will consistently find that I have stated you should be able to enter neutrality protection while under attack.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus


Only if you just changed that to. In fact it used to state you couldn't enter p while under attack and yes yes I have tested it several times
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on May 31, 2012, 11:43:19 PM
Another one from another alliance who tested


To: Kaork
Date: 2012-05-31 23:39:15 UTC
i also tried. It may work in other games but not here, or in nova. It is indeed wrong statement and matt and team know better. what can i do with my 3 moons and puny fleet let me know:)
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 01, 2012, 12:05:19 AM
Suggesting that am item only works for one alliance is completely absurd. Items work the same for all players ans there is nothing about an incoming attack that should prevent you from entering neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

We shall see over the next 5 days. I don't mind testing your code out, and I will use 2 fleet slots to extend the test indefinitely if necessary
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
If you can enter p mode now while under attack it means they just changed it.  Because we tested it a few days ago and you couldn't.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 12:16:28 AM
If you can enter p mode now while under attack it means they just changed it.  Because we tested it a few days ago and you couldn't.

Tell everyone you know.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 12:16:41 AM
If you can enter p mode now while under attack it means they just changed it.  Because we tested it a few days ago and you couldn't.

As I stated, if you were unable to enter it while under attack it was/is a bug. Please see my news post from April 13, 2012 (http://forum.playstarfleet.com/index.php?topic=16479.msg206724#msg206724) in which we deployed a fix which allowed you to correctly activate a neutrality marker while under attack.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Static Shock on June 01, 2012, 12:26:45 AM
Bat'leth never said anything about P mode. cCs was the one talking about all that. not Bat'leth. but you can hit Dmode in an attack but not P mode. thats y cCs slow attack people to try and lock them out of P.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 01, 2012, 12:27:31 AM
   


I can see the Skype session with your BFG friends now Tom.   Have fun dropping d or fleet saving like the rest of us.  Bet you cry to Jason and Matt. 

Wild cat your next, best just to stay in p



Don't make me angry, Kaork... You wouldn't like me when I'm angry... For the record, I am in P-mode because I had to fly 3,000 miles away to attend my Dad's funeral... I felt really bad about having to do this because I was looking forward to you finally coming out of Dip... I'll be back in the game in a few days... and will be out of P-mode and looking for you and all the other members of your Alliance... You went to Dip for RL issues? Well so did I...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 12:28:26 AM
Another Email from someone that just tried it. So is this a time only thing or did it just get changers or was Matt just wrong?  We may never know.



Date: 2012-06-01 00:16:25 UTC
here.


you can recall, and matt is full of shit:

The following requirements were not met: Can't use this while are being attacked


i tryed it again. so how was able to hit Pmode wile a attack was coming in
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 12:31:02 AM
As I stated, if you were unable to enter it while under attack it was/is a bug. Please see my news post from April 13, 2012 (http://forum.playstarfleet.com/index.php?topic=16479.msg206724#msg206724) in which we deployed a fix which allowed you to correctly activate a neutrality marker while under attack.


Funny Matt, must be one hell of a bug affecting and still affecting everyone but your friends.  Explain that ^^
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 12:33:03 AM
Don't make me angry, Kaork... You wouldn't like me when I'm angry... For the record, I am in P-mode because I had to fly 3,000 miles away to attend my Dad's funeral... I felt really bad about having to do this because I was looking forward to you finally coming out of Dip... I'll be back in the game in a few days... and will be out of P-mode and looking for you and all the other members of your Alliance... You went to Dip for RL issues? Well so did I...

Wildcat. As often as you have tried to attempt me to be angry, I really want to say something but I'll hold it all back and just say we are all sorry about your dad from Dark Sphere.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 01, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Don't make me angry, Kaork... You wouldn't like me when I'm angry... For the record, I am in P-mode because I had to fly 3,000 miles away to attend my Dad's funeral... I felt really bad about having to do this because I was looking forward to you finally coming out of Dip... I'll be back in the game in a few days... and will be out of P-mode and looking for you and all the other members of your Alliance... You went to Dip for RL issues? Well so did I...

We are sorry for your loss. You have our condolences. When you are ready to re-engage do so. We will still be here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 01, 2012, 01:21:14 AM
An incoming attack does not prevent you from activating neutrality protection.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus


Get a real phone and learn how to write good code

Cheers
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 01:23:38 AM

Get a real phone and learn how to write good code

Cheers

Coma V, thank for your feedback. Unfortunately, I don't wrote any code for Blue Frog Gaming, but I'll be happy to pass your concerns along to the developers so that we can make sure that we eliminate as many bugs as possible.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 01, 2012, 01:25:58 AM
We have never prevented a player from activating neutrality while under attack. Doing so would be counter to our standards of allowing players to enter diplomacy or vacation while under attack. If you weren't able to toggle neutrality then it was a bug and should be reported as soon as it occurs so we can examine all activity on your account to make sure it is working as intended.

I believe if you search my posts on the forum you will consistently find that I have stated you should be able to enter neutrality protection while under attack.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

We figured you had already examined our accounts and alliance boards for your buddies.


P.S.

I got something you can examine - hehehe

Cheers
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 01:41:43 AM
for omegas benefit it dosent work for us either.

@MATT H

you cannot activate P mode and you have never been able to since you brought it in as this is the error message you get when you try.


The following requirements were not met: Can't use this while you have out going attacks, Can't use this while are being attacked, and Cannot be used when you have attacks returning.
Items
 >:(


hence why everyone has long drawn out attacks going on because we have all known about this since day one,if its a bug then it needs fixing if its not a bug and party of the game then make a statement about it then everyone can stop moaning and just get on with this war the facts speak for themselves.


@KAORK

when posting battle reports please follow the rules ie both sets of ships should be shown and losses if any on both sides,so please amend your posting,also when posting for someone else ie manny i think it was then say so in your heading,as if you read it from how you have posted it then its made to look as if you were the one that did the work,and we all now it wasent and just at a glance it looks like your taking the credit for it.

cheers.

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 01:44:18 AM
Coma V, thank for your feedback. Unfortunately, I don't wrote any code for Blue Frog Gaming, but I'll be happy to pass your concerns along to the developers so that we can make sure that we eliminate as many bugs as possible.


You can claim bug all you want, the entire forum and uni knows what has happened here.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 01:45:42 AM
if its a bug then it needs fixing if its not a bug and party of the game then make a statement about it then everyone can stop moaning and just get on with this war the facts speak for themselves.

As I've stated - It's clearly a bug as we announced back on April 13, 2012 that we had fixed it so that your could properly activate neutrality protection with an incoming attack. This is the first time we've heard bug reports concerning the matter since that time and we'll look into it tomorrow when the office is open.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 01:46:42 AM
thanks MATT  :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 01:49:56 AM
for omegas benefit it dosent work for us either.

@MATT H

you cannot activate P mode and you have never been able to since you brought it in as this is the error message you get when you try.


The following requirements were not met: Can't use this while you have out going attacks, Can't use this while are being attacked, and Cannot be used when you have attacks returning.
Items
 >:(


hence why everyone has long drawn out attacks going on because we have all known about this since day one,if its a bug then it needs fixing if its not a bug and party of the game then make a statement about it then everyone can stop moaning and just get on with this war the facts speak for themselves.


@KAORK

when posting battle reports please follow the rules ie both sets of ships should be shown and losses if any on both sides,so please amend your posting,also when posting for someone else ie manny i think it was then say so in your heading,as if you read it from how you have posted it then its made to look as if you were the one that did the work,and we all now it wasent and just at a glance it looks like your taking the credit for it.

cheers.

 8) 8)


Then u obviously can't read cause it clearly states my member the hit right there in the battle report  ive posted a few today and they all had the players name that got the hit.  :) but nice try trying to belittle the hits again.  I only post what was posted if that's not good enough then I feel very sorry for you. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 01:53:18 AM
As I've stated - It's clearly a bug as we announced back on April 13, 2012 that we had fixed it so that your could properly activate neutrality protection with an incoming attack. This is the first time we've heard bug reports concerning the matter since that time and we'll look into it tomorrow when the office is open.

That's a full of sh*T statement as Batlift complained. The attack was cancelled so he could enter p mode.  Then you told people it's legual to attack slow for any reason. I can see why you and hen get along. You open your mouth and all kinds of things fall out.  Oh wait your prob mad at me for personally attacking you like I've been done on here over and over and reported it yet you do nothing.  I await my consequences as you are the high and mighty god of Sfc and how dare I talk to you like that.   

How bout lets not fix the bugs during this war for the benifit of your companies alliance eh?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 01:59:34 AM
@ KAORK

as i stated earlier your posting for ricker which was a good hit by the way,but you did not post the ships he used or what he lost as you should have,to be fair to everyone you need to amend it or remove it without getting on your high horse the rules are there for a reason.

secondly this was your heading on the other hit,

***WHAT DO YOU SEE??? ME GROUP DEFEND AND KILLING OFF ALL HIS SHIPS. A Ruckus rank #305

that heading makes it sound like it was your kill taking the credit for other peoples good work just like you did when sat in d mode,as i stated, before that big bold heading you should have put that you had put it on for manny.

simple manners dont hurt.

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:01:08 AM
@ KAORK

as i stated earlier your posting for ricker which was a good hit by the way,but you did not post the ships he used or what he lost as you should have,to be fair to everyone you need to amend it or remove it without getting on your high horse the rules are there for a reason.

secondly this was your heading on the other hit,

***WHAT DO YOU SEE??? ME GROUP DEFEND AND KILLING OFF ALL HIS SHIPS. A Ruckus rank #305

that heading makes it sound like it was your kill taking the credit for other peoples good work just like you did when sat in d mode,as i stated, before that big bold heading you should have put that you had put it on for manny.

simple manners dont hurt.

 8) 8)


Yep and I copied it right out of my boards.  You can ask the player that got hit to post there battle reports and I'll be happy to remove mine.  Does this suite you? I also find it funny you know exactly who made the hits (why cause they are in the post) yet you claim I made it look like my own.   Funny tactic there steely, trying to cover up for Matt are we?  Why don't ya go sit on that moon of yours some more.  Manners?. Has anyone read this thing from beginning to end. Where in it is there any post made by a time member that manners was used when refering to me?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 02:18:45 AM
no battle report should be on here unless it is in full if he asked you to post it then he should have given you the full report, as stated in the rules,thats just how it is.

and i stand by my statement previous it is clear what you did and people will see it for what it is.

as for P mode who cares give it a rest :-X

 8)


Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:28:32 AM
no battle report should be on here unless it is in full if he asked you to post it then he should have given you the full report, as stated in the rules,thats just how it is.

and i stand by my statement previous it is clear what you did and people will see it for what it is.

as for P mode who cares give it a rest :-X

 8)

I will fix the title. As for the rules you would have to have someone that up held them for all equally without pregadous before you find me really caring.  If that happens then I will give a care until then. All I hear from you is whinning because you want to play board police.   You might be friends and even alliance mates with BFG but since this is a dictatorship where one person rules and he also plays which is not only crap but also a conflict of interest then I will never have to worry about it cause it will never be equal as it has been proven tonight.

P mode: Of course you would say that and I think you will find a lot of people care if you haven't been reading the post.  I care about it, not that it matters cause I don't have any friends at BFG.

K




Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:31:19 AM

This was a hit from Dark Shere on a Time officer in time

Date: 2012-05-31 15:58:32 UTC
In the attack from Erin's revenge ‎‎‎[] on Check ‎‎‎[14]:

The attacking side acquired 48,346 ore, 21,019 crystal, and 2,505,696 hydrogen.

Mr. Chuckles (DEFENDER) lost 88,211 RSP and gained 4,089 DSP. (less)

* Contributed 88,211 RSP to the battle.

* Lost 68,975,500 ore, 16,200,500 crystal, and 3,187,500 hydrogen in damages.


* Lost 1417 of 1417 Hermes Class Probes (0 remain).
* Lost 305 of 305 Helios Class Solar Satellites (0 remain).
* Lost 1179 of 1179 Atlas Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 8 of 8 Charon Class Transports (0 remain).
* Lost 223 of 223 Hercules Class Cargos (0 remain).
* Lost 620 of 620 Dionysus Class Recyclers (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Poseidon Class Cruisers (0 remain).
* Lost 6 of 6 Gaia Class Colony Ships (0 remain).
* Lost 3 of 3 Athena Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 3 of 3 Hades Class Battleships (0 remain).
* Lost 25990 of 25990 Missile Batteries (0 remain).
* Lost 739 of 739 Laser Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 323 of 323 Particle Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 108 of 108 Pulse Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Decoys (0 remain).
* Lost 90 of 90 Gauss Cannons (0 remain).
* Lost 1 of 1 Large Decoys (0 remain).
* Lost 50 of 50 Plasma Cannons (0 remain).



James B Ricker (ATTACKER) lost 4,089 RSP and gained 21,355 DSP. (less)

* Contributed 1,306,506 RSP to the battle.

* Lost 2,570,000 ore, 1,202,000 crystal, and 317,000 hydrogen in damages.





3,840,900 ore and 3,312,000 crystal are now floating at this location.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:36:34 AM
This is not a battle report but a copy out of my alliance board from a post made by a member who posted a hit made by Dark Sphere on a member of Time in time.


***WHAT DO YOU SEE??? ME GROUP DEFEND AND KILLING OFF ALL HIS SHIPS. A Ruckus rank #305

==============
A Ruckus led an attack on DreamShadower at Raccoon's Den ‎‎‎[xxxxxx].
The following emerged from battle after 3 Round(s)

*****Attacker: A Ruckus with 15,225,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 525 of 525)
** Resources lost: 10,500,000 ore, 3,675,000 crystal, and 1,050,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 290

*****Defender: DreamShadower with 0 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Missile : 190 (Lost: 117 of 307)
Pulse : 1 (Lost: 3 of 4)
Particle : 3
** Ship Resources lost: 0 ore, 0 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 252,000 ore, 6,000 crystal, and 0 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 7,612

*****Defender: Manny DeSilvia with 51,881,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Poseidon : 1779 (Lost: 10 of 1789)
** Ship Resources lost: 200,000 ore, 70,000 crystal, and 20,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 200,000 ore, 70,000 crystal, and 20,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 7,612

After 3 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.
DreamShadower (DEFENDER) lost 258 RSP and gained 7,612 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 670 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 252,000 ore, 6,000 crystal, and 0 hydrogen in defense damages.
Start End Lost 307 190 117 3 3 0 4 1 3 A Ruckus (ATTACKER) lost 15,225 RSP and gained 290 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 15,225 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 10,500,000 ore, 3,675,000 crystal, and 1,050,000 hydrogen in ship damages.
Start End Lost 525 0 525 Manny DeSilvia (DEFENDER) lost 290 RSP and gained 7,612 DSP.
(more) (less) * Contributed 51,881 RSP to the battle.
* Lost 200,000 ore, 70,000 crystal, and 20,000 hydrogen in ship damages.
Start End Lost 1789 1779 10 The following defenses were rebuilt: Missile Battery x91 Pulse Cannon x2 3,210,000 ore and 1,123,500 crystal are now floating at this location.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:36:54 AM
Happy?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 01, 2012, 08:19:52 AM
Mannys battle conforms to the rules with no problem, the other battle with james still breaks the rules. It does ot contain his ships used or the ships he lost.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
Lazoputz said something about fat chicks a few pages back, and I can't stop thinking about it, so I'm wondering if he knows any that might be at a loose end...?  :-*
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 10:39:57 AM
Post from Matt:

As I've stated - It's clearly a bug as we announced back on April 13, 2012 that we had fixed it so that your could properly activate neutrality protection with an incoming attack. This is the first time we've heard bug reports concerning the matter since that time and we'll look into it tomorrow when the office is open.


That's a full of sh*T statement as Batlift complained. The attack was cancelled so he could enter p mode.  Then you told people it's legual to attack slow for any reason. I can see why you and hen get along. You open your mouth and all kinds of things fall out.  Oh wait your prob mad at me for personally attacking you like I've been done on here over and over and reported it yet you do nothing.  I await my consequences as you are the high and mighty god of Sfc and how dare I talk to you like that.   

How bout lets not fix the bugs during this war for the benifit of your companies alliance eh?



Further more-  this is a crock of sh*t   If you can activate this with an incoming attack no one will ever get Orical locked again!  No one will ever get heph locked again!!!!    Why would you ever need to worry about anything, ever again.  Just drop p.  even if the guy spent. 4 mil attacking you, drop p.   bfg's answer will be, well the attack continues.  Yeah into a blind a biss!!!!! Who's gonna do that?  You guys allow this and you've screwed the game!!!!!!!!!!!!

 If that is allowed then no one will ever be able to Orcal or attack a heph again.  This game will be shot.   Just imagin spending 4 million hydro or even worse 5 people spending that to attack a heph you know has dios out and he drops p.  BFG might say the attack can continue but it has to continue blind.  You'll never know if he was hiding something or had a GD.  I for one wouldn't send in a fleet that cost 4mil in hydro to send into a blind attack, would you, thats like years of work?  Let's face if, if this is allowed for Matt to fix this 'bug' as he calls it the he has completly distroyed the game that you all love to play.   It completely changes all tactics to date.

Thanks for your time and sorry to hi jack the board for a min, but I feel this is highly important!

K
Everyone Vote do not allow this, 

vote for no p when being attacked!!!!!   


Steely stop trying to steal the subject!   We are supposed to get half the war points for that attack unless you have twisted the rules to benifit you once again.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 10:52:43 AM
An interesting aside to this is that in the cCs/Bat'leth war, tickets were raised asking specifically if slow attacks were OK in war to deliberately prevent the defenders from going (p), and the answer was "Yes".

I can understand that being blocked from (p) by an attack is a bug that BFG were unaware of, however I absolutely agree with Kaork that the ability to "pop a (p)" as soon as you see the red attack warning makes any attack a blind gamble as to whether the defender can arrange an invisible-to-the-attacker defence in time (using his own ships, obviously. Other players would be unable to GD once the Neutrality was in effect).

A similar situation applies to (v), but the defender can't do anything after toggling (v). Similarly, with (d) there's a 24 hour period before (d) goes into effect, so unless the attack is launched close to the end of the 24 hours, there's no additional possibility of a ninja. With Neutrality taking instant effect, potentially every attack could be ninja'd if it wasn't cancelled, and any defender could avoid being hit just by making the attacker choose between a blind gamble and recalling.

That's pretty high-powered for something that's so cheap to purchase.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
@kaork
i would just like to point out to you and everyone else who has read the battle report that you had posted about manny,that absolutely ZERO points were lost,so even though it was a nice group defend it had nothing to do with the war and gained no points as it involved a third party,
so basically that particular  report belongs somewhere else and not in this thread as it contributed nothing to the war effort..

and yet again all you did was repost rickers txt that you took from your own alliance board,and it was still incorrect as it contains no new information.

so 2 reports still 1 has nothing to do with the war and.2 the other one is still posted incorrectly.  :-\

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 11:34:59 AM
An interesting aside to this is that in the cCs/Bat'leth war, tickets were raised asking specifically if slow attacks were OK in war to deliberately prevent the defenders from going (p), and the answer was "Yes".

I can understand that being blocked from (p) by an attack is a bug that BFG were unaware of, however I absolutely agree with Kaork that the ability to "pop a (p)" as soon as you see the red attack warning makes any attack a blind gamble as to whether the defender can arrange an invisible-to-the-attacker defence in time (using his own ships, obviously. Other players would be unable to GD once the Neutrality was in effect).

A similar situation applies to (v), but the defender can't do anything after toggling (v). Similarly, with (d) there's a 24 hour period before (d) goes into effect, so unless the attack is launched close to the end of the 24 hours, there's no additional possibility of a ninja. With Neutrality taking instant effect, potentially every attack could be ninja'd if it wasn't cancelled, and any defender could avoid being hit just by making the attacker choose between a blind gamble and recalling.

That's pretty high-powered for something that's so cheap to purchase.



Ahhh hahhh. So Matt lies when he said he didn't know about this until last night!!!

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Not necessarily. The tickets I saw were all handled by Jason, and thinking about it I can't swear that prevention of (p) was the stated purpose in the tickets. It *may* have been just whether slow attacks were OK if you were at war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Without all the he said, she said etc....


If you can apply a neutrality marker with an inbound attack in the air, then this game is dead.

End of.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 11:46:20 AM
Without all the he said, she said etc....


If you can apply a neutrality marker with an inbound attack in the air, then this game is dead.

End of.

Good point
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Alex Awesome on June 01, 2012, 12:38:50 PM
So, if you can apply a neutrality marker  any time, whether you have an inbound attack coming in or have an attack returning etc., then there is NO chance you could destroy a heph, or oracle lock a returning fleet,  or..well you know, PLAY THE GAME.  The only chance you'd have to destroy a fleet is catching someone when they are off line.

yeah that's fun. Might as well go play Farmville

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 12:42:23 PM
While I appreciate the concerns being raised in this thread, the have already been addressed on a number of occasions. You can activate a neutrality marker with an incoming attack (the same as you can toggle into diplomacy of vacation mode with an incoming attack) so long as you have no attacks from your planet out or returning and you have no fleets out from Heph. Therefore, using a neutrality marker to avoid an Oracle Lock and Locked Heph is not possible.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
While I appreciate the concerns being raised in this thread, the have already been addressed on a number of occasions. You can activate a neutrality marker with an incoming attack (the same as you can toggle into diplomacy of vacation mode with an incoming attack) so long as you have no attacks from your planet out or returning and you have no fleets out from Heph. Therefore, using a neutrality marker to avoid an Oracle Lock and Locked Heph is not possible.


But your missing one key factor. You can activate it while transporting, harvesting or a return or recalled attack in which you can't do when activating in v or d!  This will cause a universal uproar and the discussions may have been held before but we are having them again.   

I've asked you before and you told me no one so let me do it publically.  How do I contact your manager or owner of BFG, I'd like to file a complaint with someone who doesn't play the game in an alliance I'm at war with, for the simple fact that it's a conflict of interest?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 01, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Good point

Kaork, we actually AGREE on something! :D

Without all the he said, she said etc....


If you can apply a neutrality marker with an inbound attack in the air, then this game is dead.

End of.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 01:45:20 PM
I'd like to file a complaint with someone who doesn't play the game in an alliance I'm at war with

I can state with absolute certainty that no one from Blue Frog Gaming is an alliance you are at war with.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Admiral P on June 01, 2012, 02:05:14 PM
I do not mind too much on how neutrality will be handled. I always assumed from BFG communication and the rules that incoming attacks wont prevent it and if BFG adjusts the game behaviour accordingly, it is neither cheating nor unfair.

But you cannot allow slow attacks and lock people out of neutrality by it. Otherwise, you give one side an obvious and unfair advantage by depriving players from the possibility to cover RL-issues by jumping into neutrality, as Wild Cat did for example.

As per the rules and the wiki, the rule against harassment is not lifted during a war (other than the bashing rule); whatever rulings BFG gives, it should adhere to the written documentation.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:06:09 PM
I can state with absolute certainty that no one from Blue Frog Gaming is an alliance you are at war with.


First of all: I don't believe you.
2nd of all: it doesn't matter, I'm a client and I have asked for your manager contact.
3rd of all: your friends with members of this alliance and speak to them on Skype weekly or daily (conflict of interest)
4th of all:  you play this game (conflict of interest).

Who is your manager and how do I contact him?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:17:29 PM
I do not mind too much on how neutrality will be handled. I always assumed from BFG communication and the rules that incoming attacks wont prevent it and if BFG adjusts the game behaviour accordingly, it is neither cheating nor unfair.

But you cannot allow slow attacks and lock people out of neutrality by it. Otherwise, you give one side an obvious and unfair advantage by depriving players from the possibility to cover RL-issues by jumping into neutrality, as Wild Cat did for example.

As per the rules and the wiki, the rule against harassment is not lifted during a war (other than the bashing rule); whatever rulings BFG gives, it should adhere to the written documentation.


It would seem you bring a very good point to the table.  While you are correct the rules state that BFG has made up its own rules as it goes and it has Been said by both and Matt that any attack is valid for any reason during war.  This brings yet another example of the people running the game who also play the game going against there own rules and when you call them out on it they go change their wording without anyone knowing but them and there friends.  I've been waiting for the right moment to bring this nasty little problem up and it has presented itself.  It is not a new problem but it is a growning problem and even bigger and more previlant today then any other time during the history of them game.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 02:19:15 PM
Bat'leth never said anything about P mode. cCs was the one talking about all that. not Bat'leth. but you can hit Dmode in an attack but not P mode. thats y cCs slow attack people to try and lock them out of P.

So why did we have slow attacks get cancelled by BFG so a certain Bat'leth player could enter p mode? 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
So, if you can apply a neutrality marker  any time, whether you have an inbound attack coming in or have an attack returning etc., then there is NO chance you could destroy a heph, or oracle lock a returning fleet,  or..well you know, PLAY THE GAME.  The only chance you'd have to destroy a fleet is catching someone when they are off line.

yeah that's fun. Might as well go play Farmville



I totally agree.  Now that people can enter p mode at will war is totally meaningless.  Whenever Bat'leth would go offline they would drop p mode instead of fleet saving.  So when they aren't in p mode they are ONLINE.  That's why we started doing the slow attacks to prevent p mode and make them go d mode or maybe, I don't know, FLEET SAVE like the rest of us.  It's virtually impossible to hit them when they are online.  Our only hope now would be to catch them in an oracle lock or if they screwed up lifting their fleet off of a planet in time during an attack.   Whatever.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
Otherwise, you give one side an obvious and unfair advantage by depriving players from the possibility to cover RL-issues by jumping into neutrality, as Wild Cat did for example.

Won't vacation mode work to cover quick RL issues?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 01, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
So why did we have slow attacks get cancelled by BFG so a certain Bat'leth player could enter p mode? 

I believe there was an instance in which a player created the illusion to support that he was not in an alliance war and therefore the slow attacks were found to be harassment. If that was the error that occurred, we apologize.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 01, 2012, 02:32:46 PM
So, if you can apply a neutrality marker  any time, whether you have an inbound attack coming in or have an attack returning etc., then there is NO chance you could destroy a heph, or oracle lock a returning fleet,  or..well you know, PLAY THE GAME.  The only chance you'd have to destroy a fleet is catching someone when they are off line.

yeah that's fun. Might as well go play Farmville

I'm with Alex on this one.  There are plenty of other online RPG style games out there that I will start investigating as a better alternative to spend money and time on if this is the direction BFG decides to go.  (not Farmville though - unless they have started allowing you to grow poppy and hemp - hehehe - nope not even then)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 02:33:34 PM
this is a war thread can we keep it as such please?

and as its a serious problem can someone start a new thread about it away from here and direct any and all comments about it away from here and to the new thread please.?

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 01, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
I believe there was an instance in which a player created the illusion to support that he was not in an alliance war and therefore the slow attacks were found to be harassment. If that was the error that occurred, we apologize.

So y'all don't really investigate support tickets when submitted?  o_O  I scoff at that...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on June 01, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
this is a war thread can we keep it as such please?

and as its a serious problem can someone start a new thread about it away from here and direct any and all comments about it away from here and to the new thread please.?

 8) 8)

+1x10^23

Make a new thread if it's an issue.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
this is a war thread can we keep it as such please?

and as its a serious problem can someone start a new thread about it away from here and direct any and all comments about it away from here and to the new thread please.?

 8) 8)


This is a thread I created and is not in the war thread boards :) try again
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
+1x10^23

Make a new thread if it's an issue.

See previous post all point taken away and back to you as a negative number
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2012, 03:18:45 PM
While I appreciate the concerns being raised in this thread, the have already been addressed on a number of occasions. You can activate a neutrality marker with an incoming attack (the same as you can toggle into diplomacy of vacation mode with an incoming attack) so long as you have no attacks from your planet out or returning and you have no fleets out from Heph. Therefore, using a neutrality marker to avoid an Oracle Lock and Locked Heph is not possible.

I didnt think you can activate vacation with ANY activity in your fleet page?  Can you recheck the above statement please?

End of day, p flag with an inbound attack means the rich players willing to PAY bfg will always win. 

Remind me again why you wont bring in the new building to redock our hephs, or the new ships?

Oh yeah. You dont want to UNBALANCE THE GAME.

So i'll live with the pmode when you give me the new ships and buildings....
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: MDM on June 01, 2012, 03:20:29 PM
I only managed to get through page 1 of this thread before I got a headache from Kaork's ramblings. This is his OP. He tried the same thing with us, Pilgrems of the Blacksun. We sent 3 or 4 war requests to him before they merged, all got denied, because they weren't on his terms. Yet he claimed he wanted a war. I finally told him he wasn't fit to lead a herd of goats.

He also sent god knows how many tickets to BFG for harassment on our part. Apparently, nuking is harassment in his mind. As is taking someone's fleet without provocation. We got a good laugh at this.

That's my 2 cents on this. I hope you get your war, because we'd like one too with Dark Omega 4000.

 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 03:24:18 PM

This is a thread I created and is not in the war thread boards :) try again

True, but to be fair it's a subject that affects everyone playing SFC, so it'd be better to discuss it in the General Discussion sub-forum rather than 20+ pages deep in a thread that's ostensibly about a war.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
I believe there was an instance in which a player created the illusion to support that he was not in an alliance war and therefore the slow attacks were found to be harassment. If that was the error that occurred, we apologize.

Ah yes, that would be because they dropped the Bat'leth tag after we had already launched the attack and then filed for harassment.  Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2012, 03:29:07 PM
True, but to be fair it's a subject that affects everyone playing SFC, so it'd be better to discuss it in the General Discussion sub-forum rather than 20+ pages deep in a thread that's ostensibly about a war.

Hye morat, create a new topic, let me know where and i'll chip in.  Bfg seem to choose what unbalances a game, not what the players want.

Seems they are a business to make money, not to reward their user base :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 04:09:15 PM
I only managed to get through page 1 of this thread before I got a headache from Kaork's ramblings. This is his OP. He tried the same thing with us, Pilgrems of the Blacksun. We sent 3 or 4 war requests to him before they merged, all got denied, because they weren't on his terms. Yet he claimed he wanted a war. I finally told him he wasn't fit to lead a herd of goats.

He also sent god knows how many tickets to BFG for harassment on our part. Apparently, nuking is harassment in his mind. As is taking someone's fleet without provocation. We got a good laugh at this.

That's my 2 cents on this. I hope you get your war, because we'd like one too with Dark Omega 4000.

 8) 8) 8) 8)

Boy are you behind.  I'd love to discuss the three war request you denied because you wanted a crap war of 200k and that was all and your alliance was already in over 76% dmode and you only had 40 players to begin with which means you only had 6 or 7 players playing and those players were constantly harrasing 8k members to push for the war.  Hows those promisses of hitting omega going?   But I want since the topic is now on something else. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
True, but to be fair it's a subject that affects everyone playing SFC, so it'd be better to discuss it in the General Discussion sub-forum rather than 20+ pages deep in a thread that's ostensibly about a war.

Morat:  this subject specifically affects the outcome of this war and will continue here there and across the universe.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
well i thought this was a war thread so maybe this crushing of yet another omega fleet belongs somewhere else? lol  :P and got most of the df  ;D

had to launch with what i had available as i had already used my warpgate and already farmed this guy for a bout 1.5mill earlier but still more than enough to crush him  ;) ;)

and kaork this is how you correctly post a battle report 8) 8)


steely led an attack on Admiral Maximillian at Moon3 ‎‎‎[xxxxxx].
The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: steely with 1,119,145,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Athena : 4988 (Lost: 12 of 5000)
Hades : 9629 (Lost: 8 of 9637)
** Resources lost: 780,000 ore, 500,000 crystal, and 120,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 88,929

*****Defender: Admiral Maximillian with 88,929,500 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 288 of 288)
Artemis : 0 (Lost: 894 of 894)
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 1301 of 1301)
Apollo : 0 (Lost: 397 of 397)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 381 of 381)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 137 of 137)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 121 of 121)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 150 of 150)
Ares : 0 (Lost: 6 of 6)
Hades : 0 (Lost: 65 of 65)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 407 of 407)
Missile : 0 (Lost: 10 of 10)
Laser : 0 (Lost: 13 of 13)
** Ship Resources lost: 47,162,000 ore, 34,081,500 crystal, and 7,686,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 47,201,500 ore, 34,088,000 crystal, and 7,686,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 1,400

After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 7,613 hydrogen.


14,382,600 ore and 10,374,450 crystal are now floating at this location.


To: steely
Date: 2012-06-01 xxxxxxxx UTC

Ore: 12,312,600, Crystal: 8,304,450


 8) 8)



Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
Hye morat, create a new topic, let me know where and i'll chip in.  Bfg seem to choose what unbalances a game, not what the players want.

Seems they are a business to make money, not to reward their user base :)

Heh, I would but it's not really my topic :) Plus I'm on my best behaviour and don't want to be accused of being inflammatory ;) Anyways, I kinda gave up on that fight as it was made clear to me that BFG was making a deliberate choice in the direction they wanted to go with the game so there was no point in my continuing to argue against it.

Morat:  this subject specifically affects the outcome of this war and will continue here there and across the universe.

Fair enough, just sayin' :)


That's a nice hit, Steely! Massive overkill is always a winner :P (for the record, I've no affiliation to either side. Pure peanut gallery, me :) )
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
Minutemen VS Dark Sphere of Omega 4000

VICTORY POINTS
696682

VICTORY POINTS
470477

As of the latest intel, Your alliance is winning the war.

War was declared May 21 @ 12:00 AM UTC


 8) 8)

thanks morat :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
Congrates on the hit ^^
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 04:50:39 PM
thankyou kaork  :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 01, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Nice hit steely  ;D

=============

For the record, I do not have any kind of innapropriate access to Matt H or anyone else at BFG. To suggest so is completely wrong and unfounded. I have him on skype, I do not deny that, but so do loads of people in this game. He makes no secret of his skype details and adds anyone from the game as far as I know.

I have exactly the same access that everyone in this game is capable of. I get no special treatment, nor do I see a reason why I would get special treatment.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Morat on June 01, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
I get no special treatment, nor do I see a reason why I would get special treatment.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2011/10/25/1319538948896/Stack-of-British-pounds-i-007.jpg)

;) :P

(it's a joke, no offence intended)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 06:22:54 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2011/10/25/1319538948896/Stack-of-British-pounds-i-007.jpg)

;) :P

(it's a joke, no offence intended)

 ;D LOL
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 01, 2012, 06:23:43 PM
well i thought this was a war thread so maybe this crushing of yet another omega fleet belongs somewhere else? lol  :P and got most of the df  ;D

had to launch with what i had available as i had already used my warpgate and already farmed this guy for a bout 1.5mill earlier but still more than enough to crush him  ;) ;)

and kaork this is how you correctly post a battle report 8) 8)


steely led an attack on Admiral Maximillian at Moon3 ‎‎‎[xxxxxx].
The following emerged from battle after 2 Round(s)

*****Attacker: steely with 1,119,145,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Athena : 4988 (Lost: 12 of 5000)
Hades : 9629 (Lost: 8 of 9637)
** Resources lost: 780,000 ore, 500,000 crystal, and 120,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 88,929

*****Defender: Admiral Maximillian with 88,929,500 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Hermes : 0 (Lost: 288 of 288)
Artemis : 0 (Lost: 894 of 894)
Atlas : 0 (Lost: 1301 of 1301)
Apollo : 0 (Lost: 397 of 397)
Hercules : 0 (Lost: 381 of 381)
Dionysus : 0 (Lost: 137 of 137)
Poseidon : 0 (Lost: 121 of 121)
Athena : 0 (Lost: 150 of 150)
Ares : 0 (Lost: 6 of 6)
Hades : 0 (Lost: 65 of 65)
Prometheus : 0 (Lost: 407 of 407)
Missile : 0 (Lost: 10 of 10)
Laser : 0 (Lost: 13 of 13)
** Ship Resources lost: 47,162,000 ore, 34,081,500 crystal, and 7,686,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 47,201,500 ore, 34,088,000 crystal, and 7,686,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 1,400

After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 7,613 hydrogen.


14,382,600 ore and 10,374,450 crystal are now floating at this location.


To: steely
Date: 2012-06-01 xxxxxxxx UTC

Ore: 12,312,600, Crystal: 8,304,450


 8) 8)





VERY nice hit Steely.  I'm just an innocent Peanut Gallery guy too.  No favoritism. 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 06:31:38 PM
Nice hit steely  ;D

=============

For the record, I do not have any kind of innapropriate access to Matt H or anyone else at BFG. To suggest so is completely wrong and unfounded. I have him on skype, I do not deny that, but so do loads of people in this game. He makes no secret of his skype details and adds anyone from the game as far as I know.

I have exactly the same access that everyone in this game is capable of. I get no special treatment, nor do I see a reason why I would get special treatment.


Yeah I believe you Tom, you've never lied or contradicted yourself.  Dripping sarcasm incase you didnt understand it from the txt.  Saying it doesn't make it true bud. The proof is all over the boards and the daily warning I get from Matt but no responses to my request
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 01, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
Nice hit steely.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 01, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
Should I cry that time is using a low ranked player with little to lose and a S*** ton of defenses to attack me with Dios?

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

!!!    
65:19:40
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Colony ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
65:20:39
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Acos ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
65:21:06
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Seaner's Fleet Bomb ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
146:25:39
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Mastakos ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
146:26:25 
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Rogan's Last Stand ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
146:29:39
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    There is a Fat Guy ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
146:30:23
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    in my backyard ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship
!!!    
160:33:11
   
   Attack    Jiberich ‎[xxx]    Apparently I am ‎[xxx]    
Icon_dionysus_classx1
   1 ship



Bahahahaha - this is a dirty F'ing war isn't it.  Kiss the darkest part of my a** please :-*

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 01, 2012, 08:18:07 PM
sorry about that coma i will ask him to recall as soon as possible we were only going to do it to those that were doing it to us. :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
So here is my prop.   During the remander of this war no more slow attacks and no more pmode.  Since the war is nearly over for time at least then there should be no problem with this.


Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 01, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
Pmode is pmode.... Slow attacks are not allowed.... Dont bother tying the 2 of the, together....  Or clarify what you mean by no more pmode..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 01, 2012, 09:12:32 PM
Pmode is pmode.... Slow attacks are not allowed.... Dont bother tying the 2 of the, together....  Or clarify what you mean by no more pmode..

Clarification.  No one drops pmode the rest of the war.  No one slow attacks for any reason. 

And aren't you in the penut gallery? I dont believe that was to you unless you are someone else logged in under this account by mistake.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 01, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
sorry about that coma i will ask him to recall as soon as possible we were only going to do it to those that were doing it to us. :)

Let them know it only takes 1 attack to pblock. Will go well with their training.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 01, 2012, 09:53:02 PM
I don't profess to speak for all of time, but I have recalled my slow attack on Sean, which was in response to the slow attack on steely.  I think that (p) mode is another issue, and since I use it on occasion, would not agree to stop using it when needed.

But the slow attacks are silly and I am advocating that we do not use them regardless of Omega's actions.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 01, 2012, 10:06:40 PM
I don't profess to speak for all of time, but I have recalled my slow attack on Sean, which was in response to the slow attack on steely.  I think that (p) mode is another issue, and since I use it on occasion, would not agree to stop using it when needed.

But the slow attacks are silly and I am advocating that we do not use them regardless of Omega's actions.

Our slow encroachment is a direct result of the tactic being used by time on Omega

This was used on Darth Count Seneca, he responded in kind.
Attack KrazatoriumKristy's ‎‎[XXXX] The Holy Inquisition ‎‎[XXXX]
Icon_atlas_classx1 He is attacking me with one transport and slowed down until 5 hours?

We figured if time was alright with the tactic we would ensure massive plocks and force FRS or d mode with the same tactic on those that would take advantage of the item
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 01, 2012, 11:57:55 PM
Didn't know of that Rogan -- have asked and received good response so far to ceasing this activity and getting on to the war.  Let's post some battle reports -- and I am counting on our group to post more than your group so that this war is over soon  :D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
It appears that BFG has 'fixed the bug' as toml has thrown down the p marker while an incoming attack is in progress.

If I do try to do the same and get denied ... BFG can FORGET my income stream from that moment forth.

You got that MATT!!!! Nil nada zilch and all my FB friend will know BFG likes to 'F' everyone out of their cash.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 02, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
let me just clarify what started the slow attacks as i was the one involved.

Darth Count Seneca

after losing 2 fleets in my ninja later responded by nuking my defences on that planet to zero with no follow up attacks.so you pull the lions tale you get bitten.i flattened his few defences then as a joke sent a slow 5hr attack he then responded by sending the same 5hr attack back at me,so i though ok thats fair but later checked and found he had also added a 60/70hr attack at me which locked me in place for a full 2 days and it was then i asked for others to join me in doing the same to omega until he saw sense and backed off,after a chat between us he eventually backed off,so i hope this is an end to the slow attack farce.

as for P mode i dont agree with being able to toggle it while under attack,this is a big mistake on bfgs part :(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 01:17:35 AM

as for P mode i dont agree with being able to toggle it while under attack,this is a big mistake on bfgs part :(


Yea I'm already thinking about toggling dip mode and v mode and letting 2yrs of game play flush down the toilet . This game is dead or dying as players flee the sinking ship along with the rats.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 01:21:04 AM
It appears that BFG has 'fixed the bug' as toml has thrown down the p marker while an incoming attack is in progress.

If I do try to do the same and get denied ... BFG can FORGET my income stream from that moment forth.

You got that MATT!!!! Nil nada zilch and all my FB friend will know BFG likes to 'F' everyone out of their cash.


So Matt MSG me and tells me the only way to contact his manager or owners of the game was the contacts listed at the BFG site.  THERE ARE NO CONTACTS AT THE BFG SITE!!!!  Knowing this I MSG him back telling him as if he didn't already know.  Then he tells me the form you fill out under contact us goes directly to them.   I CALL BULL SHIT.   But I filled one out anyway did anyone respond to me all day NO of course not and no way the damn owner of a company is going to answer the contact us forms off the website as the first means of contact.  YOU MUST THINK IM RETARDED!!!!!    I want your managers email contact. If I don't get it I'm filing a complaint with the BBB and you can explain to your boss why they recieved a complaint such as the one I'm going to send about how your company sucks balls for allowing you to run things yet you play this game having a conflict of interest, special powers and have NO ONE TO ANSWER TO because you wont allow it.  You have created yourself a nice little haven of full control with a WALL between you and your higher ups so no one has a chance in hell of ever reaching anyone else but you and Jason.  YET you play this game and OFFER your buddies a leg up!   I am the leader of a rank 20 alliance with over a 90 members. Several of those members spend lots of money with you!  We are your clients and as your client I DEMAND to talk to the owner of your company.  You have 24 hours and I am filing my complaint!

Further more you changing this rule to benifit your friends in the game IS A CROCK of SHIT!

Have a nice day!


Kaork
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 02:55:37 AM
Question for all players.  How many of you pull up multiple tabs of the game to watch players planets while your attacking them?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 02, 2012, 03:05:02 AM
Don, you can't be serious -- this must be a joke, right. 

I wish I had special powers ... but sadly I don't and none of my team members do either (at least not that I'm aware of).  I think we've all run into bugs before in this game (it is computer software, right) ...  we try to get it addressed and we move on. 

Try the cool, calm route to getting your concerns addressed ... you might have better luck.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 03:14:06 AM
Don, you can't be serious -- this must be a joke, right. 

I wish I had special powers ... but sadly I don't and none of my team members do either (at least not that I'm aware of).  I think we've all run into bugs before in this game (it is computer software, right) ...  we try to get it addressed and we move on. 

Try the cool, calm route to getting your concerns addressed ... you might have better luck.

Dear Ray
You know I respect and love ya.   But the dictator ship of Matt has to be debt with.  I have never in my life ever heard of a company where you have one person you can talk to who handles everything, yet is also allowed to participaitt.  It's conflict of interest at it finiest.  I work for the #1 fortune 500 company in the world and know that someone as low as a client could talk to the owner of it if they raised enough hell.  If someone ask for a manager and they are told they can't  talk to them. That someone gets fired right there on the spot or as soon as the light is shed. I have taken the nice route in asking for this info.  I've been asking for it for over a month.   I'm through with nice cool and calm.  Matt has to relinquish the info, it's his job to do so and by denying it to me, someone who has put so much work and time and carried an alliance of people that have spen thousands of dollars at his table is not only beyond me but also Just Bad Business and that is what upper management is for or the BBB!  Even our president has people and policies to  keep him in check.  Matt is above the president?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Brad Lewis 926244 on June 02, 2012, 03:14:29 AM
If dropping p mode during an attack remains in the game I will be leaving... End of discussion... P mode is new so what did we all do when something in RL came up before, we dropped d mode or v mode or FRS.  I have no problem with dropping p mode when there is no attack incoming as it cost you Money but doesn't tax your mines, fine.  But using it as a defense blows and will definitely ruin what is left of this game.  My two cents.  There has always been a way to do your RL stuff but stopping attacks goes so far beyond what is needed that I see no reason to continue playing and wasting my money.  Furthermore, I don't remember any survey or discussion asking me how I felt if they added this to the game.  Everyone should be aware that its the players that make the game and keep it fun, BFG writes the programming but without players you got nothing.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 03:19:10 AM
And All these people are pissed off about it yet it gets done anyway. Sound like someone trying to make the players of the game happy? Or support his own causes?   Sound like a descision made Hulu the people that support the game?  Or a dictator that likes to piss people off and run over them cause they call him out on it.

Hell we are in getting warnings now for opening two many browser tabs to fast!  Talk about net picking and harrasment from the admin.    I call fowl
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Grabby Raccoon on June 02, 2012, 03:23:04 AM
Don't see what the big deal is about dropping p mode it's just lazy mans way of fleetsaving your ships and rez, I've used it a few times if there is enough time to drop p mode then there is generally enough time to fleetsave (the affected planet atleast as you have to go to atleast two screens to toggle the p mode and same for fleetsaving store-items, planet-fleets...) so either way you lose the attack recall and live with it. It's unfortunate that you lost the hydro but how different is it if you launched on someone and he dropped a fleet from a moon or group defended etc.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Brad Lewis 926244 on June 02, 2012, 03:29:19 AM
Grabby

I don't see why you can't fleet save then... The reason it sucks there is the possibility of timing a return or Oracle locking a fleet saved fleet as long as he didn't harvest p mode removes this.  Especially in a war,  it transfers the balance of fairness to those who like to spend a lot.  Also this allows a heph to stay safe as long as he has a P mode marker.  Planets are one thing but who wants to spend large amount of hydro when you oracle lock a fleet from a heph only for him to drop P mode. (stupid Idea)

My two cents
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Grabby Raccoon on June 02, 2012, 03:45:05 AM
FYI as the user of a heph I know for a fact that if my fleet is out I cannot enable a p mode marker so if you find and lock a fleet off a heph he cannot toggle p mode until his fleet lands.

As I understand it this game like all games is profit oriented if they weren't making a profit they wouldn't be in business I know of no business that survives on zero income would you prefer ads at the top of every screen potentially lagging the game with new ads loading?

Your right I don't see why you can't fleetsave either but the point is moot either way you as the attacker have lost the target, Though I have hit targets that came online toggle dip etc and still killed them. So it all depends on your opponent.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Grabby Raccoon on June 02, 2012, 03:51:22 AM
Also hitting p mode is no different than entering diplomacy mode just before an attack lands. What are we gonna do be in uproar over dip now to... ROFL
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Grabby Raccoon on June 02, 2012, 03:54:56 AM
http://wiki.playstarfleet.com/index.php/Neutrality_Marker

A Neutrality Marker can be purchased from the store and will protect your account from all attacks for 24 hours. A neutrality marker cannot be activated while you have attacks out from or returning to a planet. Additionally, you cannot activate a neutrality marker while any fleets are out from your Hephaestus. While in neutrality protection you cannot harvest any debris fields, launch an attack, launch an espionage mission, or send or receive a group defend. The effect cannot be cancelled early unless you are in Nova (any unused portion is forfeited). You cannot use an oracle while in protection from a neutrality marker. However, you can be oracled while in neutrality protection. A player in protection from a neutrality marker will not go inactive until the protection expires.


This was taken from the sfco wiki it explains a great deal.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Captain Kirkle$$ on June 02, 2012, 04:02:51 AM
@ all members of Time and Omega.

I am Colonel Klag, high counsel member of BAt'leth, currently at war with cCs. Our thread is twice the size of yours and our war history is lengthy. Good luck with your endevours...but, getting Matt to actually do anything abou the problems and loopholes in their systems is hopeless....their game generates a revenue, so they dont really give a crap about the flaws.

A simple solution to ALL war problems would be to have the option to deny the use of p mode during war, and to implement a MANDATORY 24-hour cooldown period before anyone enters OR leaves a warring alliance.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Captain Kirkle$$ on June 02, 2012, 04:13:12 AM
Matt H!

You are ALL OVER this war thread, why aren' you participating in the BAtleth vs cCs thread like you do here? That war has come to a ridiculous stalemate with cCs having all but abandoned their alliance, and in doing so, abandoning their war effort.

We want a default judgement of cCs having surrendered, and WE WANT a 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD before players can enter OR leave an alliance while at war!!!

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 02, 2012, 04:38:52 AM
Matt H!

You are ALL OVER this war thread, why aren' you participating in the BAtleth vs cCs thread like you do here? That war has come to a ridiculous stalemate with cCs having all but abandoned their alliance, and in doing so, abandoning their war effort.

We want a default judgement of cCs having surrendered, and WE WANT a 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD before players can enter OR leave an alliance while at war!!!

Because Matt has an investment in time/time apparently...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 02, 2012, 04:41:31 AM
Also hitting p mode is no different than entering diplomacy mode just before an attack lands. What are we gonna do be in uproar over dip now to... ROFL

The difference is the 24 hour period to enter Dip mode, where as P mode is automatic.  Send your attack, player enters P mode and you can no longer probe/slow probe and the P mode Ninja is born.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Fleet Pirate on June 02, 2012, 04:42:29 AM

We want a default judgement of cCs having surrendered, and WE WANT a 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD before players can enter OR leave an alliance while at war!!!



Let's be honest...don't really think anyone cares what you want.  I know I don't. 

But, to stay on topic....sort of....there are many changes that need to be implemented into war, and they have all been suggested numerous times by countless individuals.  Nothing has changed so far, and I would fully expect that trend to continue.
Title: Re: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 02, 2012, 04:44:48 AM
Matt H!

You are ALL OVER this war thread, why aren' you participating in the BAtleth vs cCs thread like you do here? That war has come to a ridiculous stalemate with cCs having all but abandoned their alliance, and in doing so, abandoning their war effort.

We want a default judgement of cCs having surrendered, and WE WANT a 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD before players can enter OR leave an alliance while at war!!!

I appreciate the feedback. However, there is no action for us to take in your war. The war will end when win conditions are met or when the war is surrendered, either through the surrender option or by default if the alliance disbands.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 02, 2012, 06:35:02 AM
Clarification.  No one drops pmode the rest of the war.  No one slow attacks for any reason. 

And aren't you in the penut gallery? I dont believe that was to you unless you are someone else logged in under this account by mistake.
yes ..Peanut Gallery here , please spell it right.

Whilst your proposal was intended at Henrietta does that mean that nobody can comment on public posts you make simply to clarify your obscure requests?

I gather you both agreed before the war started that slow attacks were acceptable. Now you dont like them? Some chees with your whine?

Pmode when under attack to be banned is something i could support. General pmode ban , No. People use it to FRS , go on vacation etc. if you mean all of that you might as well tey to stop them going D or V ...i dont see the distinction. Again perhaps some more cheese would help you...

 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on June 02, 2012, 09:23:01 AM
@ all members of Time and Omega.

A simple solution to ALL war problems would be to have the option to deny the use of p mode during war, and to implement a MANDATORY 24-hour cooldown period before anyone enters OR leaves a warring alliance.

Matt, i hope you're listening.... This is a great idea.... Can you build in? 

Or maybe, as someone suggested, p-mode cannot be activated whilst under attack, during a war.

This seems the common balance grounds...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:28:39 AM
The difference is the 24 hour period to enter Dip mode, where as P mode is automatic.  Send your attack, player enters P mode and you can no longer probe/slow probe and the P mode Ninja is born.


+1.    Yeah but it's just like setting else so we really need it, dripping sarcasm, again.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
Matt H!

You are ALL OVER this war thread, why aren' you participating in the BAtleth vs cCs thread like you do here? That war has come to a ridiculous stalemate with cCs having all but abandoned their alliance, and in doing so, abandoning their war effort.

We want a default judgement of cCs having surrendered, and WE WANT a 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD before players can enter OR leave an alliance while at war!!!




I agree that if everyone left the alliance and you have no one left to hit that BFG should force surrender.  That's about as gay a tactic as I've ever heard of.  I wonder who else hides over half there alliance in another alliance and makes the rest of them drop dmode.  Couldn't find a target to hit across over 5 G's last night in both directions of where I was.   Think I'm kidding?  Nope.  time litterally has a few people active and they are all Big Time members in little time or in the other alliance. 

I will add this,  the score system means little if you ask me.  The point at the in for the W or L means very little.  There should be one for stale mate but there isnt.  I'm sure it be a good waist of time to suggest it.    So it really doesn't matter either.  The way I see it, I read the boards long enough that I saw what happened.   So if you guys decline it, they all left there alliance except two, you won, took over there world, raped there wemon and made there children slaves while they ran in fear for there lives.  Way to go!

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 09:43:24 AM
While I do not agree with the issues you have on Pmode, I do agree on the membership of alliances.

As it happens, I brought up the same idea to matt on skype regarding a 24 hour cooldown period of entering / leaving an alliance during war. In the interest of transparency, this is the exact conversation.

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[24/05/2012 18:05:22] Tom: Are there any plans to look at the way membership works during war? Its seriously broken at the moment
[24/05/2012 18:07:42] Tom: There should be a 24 hour "cool down" period. If you want to leave an alliance, it should only remove you from an alliance if you are at war after 24 hours from you clicking the button.

Same with new people, from when an officer accepts the application it should take 24 hours for them to be let in.

That would stop people ducking out of alliance to avoid giving away debris points to the enemy or joining alliances for attacks and then leaving when they have given the alliance some war points
[24/05/2012 18:07:48] Matt Hirschfelt: We have no plans to lock players into an alliance during a way. Doing so unduly burdens players who may or may not have agreed to be in the war in the first place.
[24/05/2012 18:08:30] Tom: a 24 hour system wouldn't burden them, they would still be able to come and go
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
yes ..Peanut Gallery here , please spell it right.

Whilst your proposal was intended at Henrietta does that mean that nobody can comment on public posts you make simply to clarify your obscure requests?

I gather you both agreed before the war started that slow attacks were acceptable. Now you dont like them? Some chees with your whine?

Pmode when under attack to be banned is something i could support. General pmode ban , No. People use it to FRS , go on vacation etc. if you mean all of that you might as well tey to stop them going D or V ...i dont see the distinction. Again perhaps some more cheese would help you...

 


GordonK.  I do believe you are about the biggest troll there is.  In fact we did talk about slow attacks and totally agreed that they would be awesome during the entire war.   We also talked that it would be ok to sleep with each others sisters, steal each other credit cards and drive each others cars.    If you can't hear how so full of crap you are by now there is something wrong with you.

No JA, we didn't discuss anything prewar except what I've posted here which was the war with both of them.  Have you not been reading and commenting from day one?  Are you smoking crack?   Please do tell us if you are we will understand and would explain alot.   You thought those were penuts I was selling you didn't you?  Your suppOsed to eat them not smoke them.

If p mode is just like d or v, (which it's not).  Then why do we need it?  The argument you made to keep it for that reason sounds pretty stupid now doesn't it.  Yes I love cheese, probably to much thanks for giving me more.

As you can see the no pmode during the rest of the war I presented was not even my idea nor are we the only one that came up with the same idea.  You got a problem with my suggest?  Who the cares.  Your a crack smoking penute gallary troll.   

And i will never learn to spell, dos dat pis u off twoo?

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:47:59 AM
While I do not agree with the issues you have on Pmode, I do agree on the membership of alliances.

As it happens, I brought up the same idea to matt on skype regarding a 24 hour cooldown period of entering / leaving an alliance during war. In the interest of transparency, this is the exact conversation.



Ahhh looky Tom is talking to Matt at early am, I don't even think Matt is at work, must be home staying up playing the came chatting with his buddies.  Imagin that

Yet he won't take the time to give me the owners emails.  Imagin that someone else is pissed off at the way you run this game and great your clients. Better hide in pmode like hen, except in real life cause I'm coming after your job
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 09:53:07 AM
Early AM? Do you maths again.

It was my evening time, meaning US afternoon, Matt would have been at work.

Like I keep saying though, I have the same access to him you do. Just add him to skype yourself. His skype information is public.

Matt Maroons email is also publicly known on the forum, it doesnt take too much to search for it.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
You think companies tell clients that they need to search for the managers email address when the client is asking for it?   No they would be fired. If its so public then it should be on the front page, on there website and sent to me when I ask for it.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 10:05:23 AM
Your are wrong, the public do not automatically get a managers email adress if they want it. There are procedures in every company. In mine for example, if someone has an issue they ring/email customer services. There is nobody higher than customer services (effectively what Matt and Jason are) that you can contact.

Any emails that go to our senior management are just passed through to customer services to deal with.

If you list all your issues, possibly with the exception of your pmode/members issues, then look for plausable reasoning behind them you will realise that you have made up this story of matt being on our side. You get a lot of warnings because your content on this site is often breaking the rules for example. That has nothing to do with Matt being friendly with me or time or whatever. Its simply because your posts did not conform to the rules. Usually battle report rules in which players names, their full fleets and full losses must be present and all coords must be taken out. Even after we have told you of your errors you refused to see that you had done anything wrong, that is why your posts were reported. If you just edited your posts then you would not have been reported / Matt taken the initative to remind you of the rules.

There is no consipracy, its all in your head.

Edit: Lets see what hes complaining about.
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 10:32:37 AM
There is no consipracy, its all in your head.

There is no consipracy, its all in your head.

There is no consipracy, its all in your head.

There is no consipracy, its all in your head.

BFG is resorting to Witch Hunting with threats of suspension based on accusations of script automation from hearsay.

They are requesting access to the Omega Dark Sphere NON-BFG Associated Website and phpbb forum so they can gain access to intellectual property developed by members of our alliance. I believe Matt has some form of public parser, access to our site would provide developmental information which could be incorporated into his.

BFG listen and listen well ... we do not believe in script automation ... we will not grant you access to our forum ... suspension of a player based on unfounded, unsubstantiated, and unethical conflict of interest will only hurt your income stream
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 10:34:08 AM
Your are wrong, the public do not automatically get a managers email adress if they want it. There are procedures in every company. In mine for example, if someone has an issue they ring/email customer services. There is nobody higher than customer services (effectively what Matt and Jason are) that you can contact.

Any emails that go to our senior management are just passed through to customer services to deal with.

If you list all your issues, possibly with the exception of your pmode/members issues, then look for plausable reasoning behind them you will realise that you have made up this story of matt being on our side. You get a lot of warnings because your content on this site is often breaking the rules for example. That has nothing to do with Matt being friendly with me or time or whatever. Its simply because your posts did not conform to the rules. Usually battle report rules in which players names, their full fleets and full losses must be present and all coords must be taken out. Even after we have told you of your errors you refused to see that you had done anything wrong, that is why your posts were reported. If you just edited your posts then you would not have been reported / Matt taken the initative to remind you of the rules.

There is no consipracy, its all in your head.


Dear Tom,  I as a person of America know how chain of command works. I have attempted chain of command.  Chain of command is broke because it has two links, Jason and then Matt. It stops at Matt as I have multiple emails where he said so. He has his boards and Forums that cover up any way of going higher then him.  You just contradicted yourself again by saying the owners email is easy to find on the forum yet no owner would accept direct contact.  You are also wrong any American based company by law must allow contact all the way to the owner or at least the CEO, if the chain of command is followed.  I have done just that.   Proof of cospercicy is all over these boards and in my keep emails.  I know your trying to cover for your buddy who provides you with info and allows you to get away with anything such as your fleet rank vrs your ship count so you can trick people into attacking you.  Yeah didn't think I knew about that one did ya?   

I'm Simply letting the rest of the galaxy know what most of them know already and telling Matt my intentions since he wants to play this game and be system admin while administering it with a conflict of interest and pregidous.   

As I stated he is now harrasing us about opening to many tabs to fast.  I can open a tab from a BFG approved parser about 1 tab every second.  I have clocked it.   Yet he wants to say that we shouldn't be able to open them that fast and wants us to slow down out clicking.  I'm sitting over here in my floor out of my set laughing.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 10:45:26 AM
If thats an American law, then so be it. Matt M's email adress is on here from before Matt H started. Matt M used to be the forum authority and interacted with us before he hired a representative.

My fleet rank vs Fleet? What are you accusing me of there, I dont understand  ??? Are you suggesting that my ship count is somehow altered by BFG? Why would you say that? Provide the evidence to back up your statement please.

As for opening tabs to fast, are you denying the fact that there is a button called "Attack Mode" or something similar, which opens up all of a players location in one go? Matt H has already has the same process removed from another parser (Mentat) so it is not a case of him picking on you or anything like that, he is just upholding a previous ruling.

I have not seen the button for a few months since I last had a nosey around your forums but I am willing to be its still there.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
If thats an American law, then so be it. Matt M's email adress is on here from before Matt H started. Matt M used to be the forum authority and interacted with us before he hired a representative.

My fleet rank vs Fleet? What are you accusing me of there, I dont understand  ??? Are you suggesting that my ship count is somehow altered by BFG? Why would you say that? Provide the evidence to back up your statement please.

As for opening tabs to fast, are you denying the fact that there is a button called "Attack Mode" or something similar, which opens up all of a players location in one go? Matt H has already has the same process removed from another parser (Mentat) so it is not a case of him picking on you or anything like that, he is just upholding a previous ruling.

I have not seen the button for a few months since I last had a nosey around your forums but I am willing to be its still there.

I have my ie set to open 5 pages of Sfc when I click the blue e. it's a function of internet explorer are you asking microsoft to change there browser ability too?  I'm not sure they would go for that.  As for the forum I'm new to it and don't really use it other then the chat option which I usually use Skype. That is someone else's off site forum and you or anyone else that is in wanted have no business being there. To do so would be considered hacking and you can be reported to the FCC. Is this what you have done?



The proof is my estimate of your ship count and the fleet rank you have and the tickets I have submitted to BFG to look into it.  Why don't you tell us what your complete fleet calculation and fleet rank is if your so sure that it's correct.


So you did indeed hack the site to gain unfair advantages and yet you say you don't cheat and then had a Skype session with Matt so this is nothing more then hearsay from you let it he known you are a lier who will say anything.   I also think the FCC can hold some rulings in your country as they frown upon international hackers.  This is a private forum without public access.  I will be sure to report it if you do it it again.

I take it it's ok to have multiple tabs open up by way of clicking Internet explorer as a function of Internet explorer?  I'm sure you can answer this since you seem to help make the rules here.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
As for opening tabs to fast, are you denying the fact that there is a button called "Attack Mode" or something similar, which opens up all of a players location in one go? Matt H has already has the same process removed from another parser (Mentat) so it is not a case of him picking on you or anything like that, he is just upholding a previous ruling.

I have not seen the button for a few months since I last had a nosey around your forums but I am willing to be its still there.

Yes, we are denying that there is a button on a website under our control  which performs this function. But if there was one it would be an HTML php type of thingy and not related to any type of script. I am sure any web admin of any caliber, like you, would understand this. As for your access, unless you are one of the 11 registered inner circle or are looking over the shoulder of one, you have none.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 11:04:14 AM
I am off to work for a bit so this will be my last post for a few hours unless I get office time rather than development kitchen time at work.

Your button was a php script. Here is part of the code.

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<script>
   
    function attackMode() {
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
     window.open('http://playstarfleet.com/galaxy/show?galaxy=#&solar_system=#','_blank');

     
     
         
    }
    </script>

As for the claim on my fleet, Kaork I am not showing you my full fleet but if you pick a member of this community that is impartial to both sides of the war and I agree they are suitable, then I will send them my fleet count and they can confirm if its correct or not to you without you seeing my fleet.

It's the only way I am passing my fleet around though.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 11:17:05 AM
I am off to work for a bit so this will be my last post for a few hours unless I get office time rather than development kitchen time at work.

Your button was a php script. Here is part of the code.

As for the claim on my fleet, Kaork I am not showing you my full fleet but if you pick a member of this community that is impartial to both sides of the war and I agree they are suitable, then I will send them my fleet count and they can confirm if its correct or not to you without you seeing my fleet.

It's the only way I am passing my fleet around though.


.... <script>
..... function scoffMode() {
..... point.finger(I can type sh!t like that and enter it in a public forum for review tooo);
..... }
..... </script
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 11:33:18 AM
I am off to work for a bit so this will be my last post for a few hours unless I get office time rather than development kitchen time at work.

Your button was a php script. Here is part of the code.

As for the claim on my fleet, Kaork I am not showing you my full fleet but if you pick a member of this community that is impartial to both sides of the war and I agree they are suitable, then I will send them my fleet count and they can confirm if its correct or not to you without you seeing my fleet.

It's the only way I am passing my fleet around though.


I will add theft of code and data to your execution.


Yes I will pick a party.  It won't be Matt or Jason.  I will even pick someone in your alliance as I know he would tell the truth and could find out if your lieing about your fleet numbers to him.   Keep in mind I know about what they are and will call bullshit if I see any from you.   

I call Mr Chuckles to have a look at all your fleet and tell me it it sets up to your 860k fleet ranking with near 5000 proms 4000 hades over 5000 Athena and various other fodder.
Yet one of my members is ranked 815 in fleet and has a quarter of that fleet.   Let's find out the truth shall we?  Do you agree he list a total sum of caps and fodder?

Kaork
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
I will add theft of code and data to your execution.

You must excuse Kaork on this one. He is not a programmer type. He does not understand the the sh!t snippet of code TomL provided proves nothing. It can not be authenticated as coming from any one specific website as there is no corroborating header information provided. For all we know it is code on TomL's masochist.uk website he tortures us with, oh sorry TomL that url is maquis not masochist and definitely not time/Time.

It does however show what type of unethical HACK TomL is, if it is stolen code from some website.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
True Rogan.  I'm a networker and have no knowledge of php or coding.  If indeed its bull crap he made up then you did well calling him out on it and might save him with the FCC.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 02, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
I'm not sure what you are asking there Don ... I know of people with huge fleet numbers (and therefore rank), but it's mostly hermes, arties, and fodder; and then others with smaller fleet numbers but heavy on capital ships.  All fleet rank says is total number of ships -- not what kind of ships.  I personally prefer to keep my hermes and arty count low (with exception of a few on my heph) and build mostly capital ships.

So are you saying that Tom with a fleet rank in the 800s, which means 29k ships give or take, can't have those capital ship numbers.  Why would that be?  And what would make that such an anomaly?

I'm just not sure you would be satisfied even if Tom sent me his fleet composition, but I leave that up to the two of you.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I trust you to insure his ranking is what it should be for over all count of all his ships.  He doesn't have a tone of folder but the over all count of a 815 ranked player is a quarter of what hen has as his over all count
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 02, 2012, 02:27:46 PM
I am off to work for a bit so this will be my last post for a few hours unless I get office time rather than development kitchen time at work.

Your button was a php script. Here is part of the code.

As for the claim on my fleet, Kaork I am not showing you my full fleet but if you pick a member of this community that is impartial to both sides of the war and I agree they are suitable, then I will send them my fleet count and they can confirm if its correct or not to you without you seeing my fleet.

It's the only way I am passing my fleet around though.

The fact that you cannot tell the difference between PHP and JavaScript makes me believe that you have had somebody write the code for you.  Since Matt is not a coder (except for claiming to write his own parser) I can't believe it was him, so who helped you fabricate this?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Admiral P. on June 02, 2012, 02:33:51 PM

I trust you to insure his ranking is what it should be for over all count of all his ships.  He doesn't have a tone of folder but the over all count of a 815 ranked player is a quarter of what hen has as his over all count


Being not a native speaker and thus not as familar with the nuances and subtleties of English language as Kaork is, I totally failed to grasp the last posting. I assume it is an accusation of some kind, centered around Toms folders and their tones. Can someone enlighten me?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 02:54:18 PM
English is my second language as well, I don't have a first ;)


I can try to explain.

Hens fleet rank - 860
Guestamated Calculated total ship count: 25k +


One of my member fleet rank - 815
Calculated total ship count - 10k


Suggestion:   His fleet count vrs his fleet rank doesn't match.

I have asked the untrusted BFG to look into this, my first request was ignored my second request was told to me that they refreshed his states but did not actually go in and do the actual calculations.  They took no inclination that there could be some sort of big and they needed to figure out what is actually wrong.  They said the case was closed from there.   

Request:  hen allows me chuckles to prob planets and post total ship count in the forums so we may run actual fleet rank calculations based off these numbers.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Admiral P. on June 02, 2012, 03:16:27 PM
Yes, this helps. But I still have difficulties with the issue:

The fleet rank is determined by the number of ships, says the wiki and I validated that against my meagre fleet.

Henrietta as #864 in fleet has, as per the leader board, 29k of ships
Alex Awesome as #845, the closest O4k player, has 30k of ships

Anyone with 10k of ships would be ranked about 1.800. Has your alliance mate dropped the leading "1" when reporting his ship count?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 03:22:38 PM
Neg,  and you might be right.  I may be wrong and if so then I have no problem admitting that I am.  Seems really high ship count to me for a 860 fleet rank. The only problem I have with the way you look at it is that the stats there may not be right either.  Ill have to check with alex on his ship count and we can use him as the baseline.  This is just a scientific test.   Lyon has already agreed to the test lets see it play out.  If I'm wrong you can all say told ya so :)

Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 02, 2012, 04:16:29 PM
All i ever hear in here is Kaork whining and complaining...

Is this supposed to be a war thread or not?

I am a troll? Maybe if you Just got on with blowing shit up instead asking for cheese all the time you would make some interesting posts.

In terms of how you spell i really dont care ..i simply pointed it out to you ....

Can we get some decent debate about hits , near misses , raids etc ...

Yawn at Kracky boy....
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 02, 2012, 06:02:41 PM
+1

yeah im tired of it as well,this is supposed to be a war thread but everyday we hear moan after moan,lets just get on with it blow some shit up,post it then this thread can be closed thank god.


 THE END.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Zarathos on June 02, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
The difference is the 24 hour period to enter Dip mode, where as P mode is automatic.  Send your attack, player enters P mode and you can no longer probe/slow probe and the P mode Ninja is born.

Exactly.  Or also people can nuke you and before you can retaliate the attacker can go and hide in p mode.  The 24 hours to enter is the key.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 06:24:52 PM
Exactly.  Or also people can nuke you and before you can retaliate the attacker can go and hide in p mode.  The 24 hours to enter is the key.
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+ 1
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 02, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
Okay Don.  Tom sent me his fleet composition from a "home" page report and I did the math -- which I hate by the way -- and I come up with 29067.  His fleet rank page says that he should have (drum roll please) 29076 so he lost 9 ships from the last leaderboard update.  Looked like a pretty reasonable composition, though my good friend William Hardisty (just wanted to mention his name here as I miss him in the game) would say that Tom really should have more Apollos :)

Hope this is satisfactory for you Don.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 07:10:08 PM

lol thanks - I havent lost any ships recently so no idea why its showing as down by 9. Especially after my stats have been reset by BFG.

Perhaps someone can shed light on that... Matt H?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
Okay Don.  Tom sent me his fleet composition from a "home" page report and I did the math -- which I hate by the way -- and I come up with 29067.  His fleet rank page says that he should have (drum roll please) 29076 so he lost 9 ships from the last leaderboard update.  Looked like a pretty reasonable composition, though my good friend William Hardisty (just wanted to mention his name here as I miss him in the game) would say that Tom really should have more Apollos :)

Hope this is satisfactory for you Don.

Yes your figures is about what I had hen calculated at yet the math does not add up.

As we used Alex as a base line I had him send me his total ship count:
Explain this one. As stated Alex awesome is ranked below hen at 840+. Yet has less ships?


To: Kaork
Date: 2012-06-02 19:27:04 UTC
Total ship count?

Total ships = 24274
Reply | Delete | Block
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 02, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Don, here is Alex Awesome right from the leader board.

845    Grand Admiral Alex Awesome B!    Ω 4K    29,927

And then Tom

865    Supreme Commander Henrietta B!    time    29,076

So tell me again, what's the problem?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on June 02, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
Seems like Alex is giving you false information to keep you revved up on this topic.  Just reporting what I see from the facts :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 08:10:06 PM
Seems like Alex is giving you false information to keep you revved up on this topic.  Just reporting what I see from the facts :)

You know how data gets dated the moment you statically record it. in this ever changing game that could represent what was then but is not now....as TomL was want to remind me on occasion "refresh your screen and recheck your data before spouting out your 'facts' ..." or something to that effect
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 08:16:41 PM
Seems like Alex is giving you false information to keep you revved up on this topic.  Just reporting what I see from the facts :)

I know what you see in the leader boards but that is exactly what I'm stating the problem is.

I don't think Alex would lie nor did he even know why I was asking for his total ship count he thought I was asking for a possible attack in time and told me when his ships would be back.  Lol. So not sure why he would lie about it over something he didn't even know. I will past the pm.  In anycase hens figures are off as he has more ships by over 5000 yet he is ranked higher then Alex. In hens case that's 5000 caps over, which can play a huge role in a battle.   


    Alex Awesome    re: Request    54 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-06-02 19:19:07 UTC
All FRSd until xxx
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    Alex Awesome    re: Request    55 minutes ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-06-02 19:17:46 UTC
X Zeuss
X Proms
X HAdes
X Ares
X Athenas
X Posiedons
X Dios
X Hercs
X Charrons
X Apollos
X Atlas
X Mermes
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Total of all ships in above post
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 02, 2012, 08:21:27 PM
Sorry guys but what difference does fleet rank actually make?

IMHO its what you do with it that matters ..therefore DSP ranking , to me anyway , shows me who the hunters are versus who the builders are.

Stop being statisticians and start killing stuff... As said earlier....

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
We appear to have won. :-)

Total score
1166097   

Enemy score
908406

Winner
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000


War is over.


I promised the Time member I wouldn't post his name. I honor my word.

To: Sean William K Mackay
Date: 2012-06-02 20:14:57 UTC
In the attack from Xxx ‎‎‎[1m] on Holy Sphere of Ω4K ‎‎‎[13:54:13m]:

The attacking side acquired 0 resources.

Xxx (ATTACKER) lost 681,311 RSP and gained 190,400 DSP. (more)
Sean William K Mackay (DEFENDER) lost 190,400 RSP and gained 681,311 DSP. (more)

142,897,200 ore and 94,513,800 crystal are now floating at this location.

See more...
Delete

I'd like to finish the discussion on hens fleet rank
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
Thanking Time and time for a fun time even with all the banter.  I like most of you guys and would have congratulated you all had you won.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
It was fun debating logically with you. the peanut gallery included.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 02, 2012, 08:38:52 PM
I congratulate Sean on his ninja, and in turn that passes to the 4000 guys.

Kaork, in all seriousness we have no spies, we have no BFG help etc etc.

All the info we had was what LJH and spazzy passed to us by accident in the early stages of the game.

We never sent resources to your guys and picked it up or anything like that.

Good war! rematch!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Roadkill on June 02, 2012, 08:41:20 PM
Rematch?  Lmao....

Maybe next month?  Id like to get my mines flowing again :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Νικολας on June 02, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
its usual , at least to me , in war in this game to meet new people better (even if the goal is to take each others ships). I met quite many time members, and I have to admit it was fun playing with you gentlemen. Thank you for a making this game more interesting and fun  :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 02, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
I congratulate Sean on his ninja, and in turn that passes to the 4000 guys.

Kaork, in all seriousness we have no spies, we have no BFG help etc etc.

All the info we had was what LJH and spazzy passed to us by accident in the early stages of the game.

We never sent resources to your guys and picked it up or anything like that.

Good war! rematch!

You have gotten into our offsite forum through the use of someone's account though.  You have even admitted to seeing it in person which does not seem to be by accident.  I thank you for bringing this to our attention as we now have tighter security in place.

Cheers and happy hunting,

Coma V
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: ComaV on June 02, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
its usual , at least to me , in war in this game to meet new people better (even if the goal is to take each others ships). I met quite many time members, and I have to admit it was fun playing with you gentlemen. Thank you for a making this game more interesting and fun  :)

I totally agree - it was much funner over the past month.  I believe there are still some fundamental flaws in the war system that BFG should fix.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Admiral P. on June 02, 2012, 09:20:09 PM
Congratulation on Omega for winning the war. They staged quite a comeback and in the end, discipline won the day
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
I congratulate Sean on his ninja, and in turn that passes to the 4000 guys.

Kaork, in all seriousness we have no spies, we have no BFG help etc etc.

All the info we had was what LJH and spazzy passed to us by accident in the early stages of the game.

We never sent resources to your guys and picked it up or anything like that.

Good war! rematch!

Tom lets just call it a distraction tactic.

Thanks for playing from one player to another it was a ton of fun.  Now I gotta rebuild my rank and defenses. :)

I
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 02, 2012, 09:26:07 PM
i would like to thank everyone who took an active role in this war from time and omega,some of you i have met you up close and personal lol but no one has had a bad word to say to me,if anything those i dealt with handled themselves with honour cudos to you guys you no who you are and you no where i am if you want payback lol ;)
i have had probably the most exciting and fun filled week during this war than i have had in this game for over a year.
we really must do it again and soon but hopefully try to arrange to have more members active on both sides :) best of luck to all omega and time for the future and by the way omega you are all still targets :p lol

thanks guys.

neil.
 
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
i would like to thank everyone who took an active role in this war from time and omega,some of you i have met you up close and personal lol but no one has had a bad word to say to me,if anything those i dealt with handled themselves with honour cudos to you guys you no who you are and you no where i am if you want payback lol ;)
i have had probably the most exciting and fun filled week during this war than i have had in this game for over a year.
we really must do it again and soon but hopefully try to arrange to have more members active on both sides :) best of luck to all omega and time for the future and by the way omega you are all still targets :p lol

thanks guys.

neil.
 

Let's just say 'don't let guard down for a sec ... anyone will take your ships for dsp any day'
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on June 02, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Great job everyone.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Static Shock on June 02, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
Great job :-p
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Reavers on June 02, 2012, 10:02:25 PM
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Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
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-漫~*'¨¯¨'*·舞~ β€ţţ€я ℓµȼЌ ɲ€жţ ţɨʍ€ ~舞*'¨¯¨'*·~漫-


What he said ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 02, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
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-漫~*'¨¯¨'*·舞~ β€ţţ€я ℓµȼЌ ɲ€жţ ţɨʍ€ ~舞*'¨¯¨'*·~漫-

Nice art, may I use it?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 02, 2012, 10:37:55 PM
I would like time and Time to know there are no hard feelings, everything was in good fun.  Even Matt, though I'm sure I made him as an eniemy and would like to see a few changes made.

I also want all to know when my heph lands on top of 3 time/Time members tomorrow at a cost of over 4 mil hydro to get there I'm not even going to prob and will move on.   I would like a 15 day cool down period from all members in all 3 alliances.  I ask this humbly and will put the first foot forward by honoring my word.   There may be some lacky's that don't read it so I understand if there is a few after fires but it should be by any big guys that read this.  I'm also posting this in our boards.

Kaork
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 02, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
i will lay off where i am for a week or so give these guys a break for a while.

i miss the red :(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Rogan on June 03, 2012, 12:19:12 AM
i miss the red :(

ME TOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Gershwyn on June 03, 2012, 12:21:16 AM
Congratulations to Omega-4000 on the win and good job to everyone involved!

I'm just glad that, from the last few posts at least, everyone seems to have turned their brains back on :P :D ;D
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 03, 2012, 12:43:43 AM
I agree with what almost everyone has said... The war was a great experience, made the game more fun than it's been in AGES, and although I had to go to P-mode for my Dad's funeral (it just ended btw), I was really looking forward to coming out of p-mode and kicking some Omega ass again...

However, the war is over (and, yes, I miss "the red" as well), but my Conga-Rats to all who played...

Both sides should be proud...  8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 03, 2012, 12:45:11 AM
I agree with what almost everyone has said... The war was a great experience, made the game more fun than it's been in AGES, and although I had to go to P-mode for my Dad's funeral (it just ended btw), I was really looking forward to coming out of p-mode and kicking some Omega ass again...

However, the war is over (and, yes, I miss "the red" as well), but my Conga-Rats to all who played...

Both sides should be proud...  8)


Thanks WC.  Our/my condolences and prayers go to you and family!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Lubed Guyballer on June 03, 2012, 12:50:22 AM
Does anyone know why both Sean and Mr. Chuckles just got suspended?

Perhaps and little unfriendly exchange of words?

 :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 03, 2012, 12:51:08 AM
Thanks, Kaork... and even though I moved into some attack positions, I will cease hostilities for a bit per your request... We all lost a lot, and both sides need to rebuild, calm down, and relax for a few days...

Then we can go back to blowing up shit!  ;D

And at least now, we don't have to focus on just "the enemy"... there are a LOT of targets out there, not just time/Time and Omega... The Universe is a big place!  ;)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 03, 2012, 12:51:37 AM
Does anyone know why both Sean and Mr. Chuckles just got suspended?

Perhaps and little unfriendly exchange of words?

 :)

WTF????
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: mindflux on June 03, 2012, 01:21:27 AM
How is it even a suspendable offensive? And who would even accuse you of something like that?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 03, 2012, 01:37:34 AM
Mr. Chuckles... If anyone from MM turned you in for something that wasn't even illegal, then THEY should be kicked out of time and banished forever, but NOT YOU!!! You are an AWESOME player and I, for one, am proud to fight by your side ANYTIME... IF there is a "traitor", he should be hunted down and decimated, and I'll be the first in line to kick his ass...  >:(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Space Cat on June 03, 2012, 02:02:45 AM
Mr. Chuckles... VTC will be disappointed if you leave...  8)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Reavers on June 03, 2012, 02:30:36 AM
Nice art, may I use it?
Yes, Rogan....you may use the Congratulations Raork art...it was done with an ASCI Art generator.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 03, 2012, 02:33:41 AM
Yes, Rogan....you may use the Congratulations Raork art...it was done with an ASCI Art generator.


It took me a while to see it.  Quite awesome and thanks for the congrates.  The real congrates goes to my team!
My honor goes to all of Time/time.  It's ashamed what has happened with chuckles and Sean and there is a lot I would say but will just bite my toung.  Hopefully both will be back out and having fun again soon
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Reavers on June 03, 2012, 02:34:31 AM
I would like time and Time to know there are no hard feelings, everything was in good fun.  Even Matt, though I'm sure I made him as an eniemy and would like to see a few changes made.

I also want all to know when my heph lands on top of 3 time/Time members tomorrow at a cost of over 4 mil hydro to get there I'm not even going to prob and will move on.   I would like a 15 day cool down period from all members in all 3 alliances.  I ask this humbly and will put the first foot forward by honoring my word.   There may be some lacky's that don't read it so I understand if there is a few after fires but it should be by any big guys that read this.  I'm also posting this in our boards.

Kaork

I will post on the boards at Minutemen. It is already posted to cease hostilities, the war is over. I don't have a problem with a fifteen day cooling off period but I am only speaking for the training alliance of time.

Reavers Band
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 03, 2012, 08:16:17 AM
Well done Omega indeed... Glad it didnt drag out like the batleth one...
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 03, 2012, 01:30:02 PM
so just found out brandon mackay leader of the 4000 alliance was suspended? obviously either related or a second account of the other mackay involved in the final battle earlier,the same omega mackay who was caught cheating attacking our member for res transported while he slept from the other mackay from 4000 so to be fair he should have been suspended earlier meaning the last battle would not have taken place.

sorry guys but in my eyes even though as far as i know no other omega was involved in that it has now cast a huge shadow over your victory as it was mackay who is now a known cheater who actually won the war for you and he shouldent even have been playing.

i hope you kick him from your alliance as soon as possible.

this sucks from what should have been a nice victory for you is now a black mark for all of you

sad really sad guys :(
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 03, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
as far as im aware no one has a bad word to say about ray and certanly not me,all im saying is both the mackays should have been suspended earlier hence the battle would never had taken place hence no end to the war.

as for plunder points i personally took well over 100million in resorces from you guys so the plunder points as far as im concerned are correct.

if you have any eveidence to say any member of time was cheating then please post that evidence dont just spout it out.

as i said there is now a shadow i wish there wasent but there is.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: jimy77 on June 03, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
If anyone has any problem with the war, I say report it to BFG.  Every time I have talked to BFG support, Tom has always been helpful!  I know I am not supposed to say this, but to be fair, BFG does have a 'time' clock in their office.  Just saying....  Do they have an Omega clock -NO.  BFG, THAT IS NOT FAIR.  What kind of company are you running?  Why are you just playing games?  Oh, it is a game company.  Nevermind. ;-)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Matt H on June 03, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
have special Saturday late night access to BFG employees.

I'm continually baffled by your claim that anyone has 'late night access to BFG employees'. My Skype, Facebook, and Twitter are publicly posted at the bottom of every post I make and the PM system on this forum can be used at any time. Further, the same number of Omega members have contacted me via Skype during off hours as have Time/time members.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 03, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
I have removed some comments per a good friends request. We are trying to move on and we need to drop all the banter in order to do so.   Thanks again everyone for an awesome war!   Will see yah out there!

K
Dark Sphere of Omega 4000
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Armus the Black on June 03, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Hi Everyone,

I would just like to thank Time/time for the high class they showed during this war.
I did not expect to be suspended because the "evil push" which was wrong, was paid for 3X the amount pushed to papi. I agree it was a dirty scheme, but i truly felt time was doing the same to us, and that's why i did it.

I have no proof to offer, it was just my gut feeling, based upon the attacks i saw, and the plunder points.

With that said, through my chat with Matt, we agreed to disagree about the Chuckles attack, but i would like to thank Chuckles for having the guts to stand up and throw down. It takes a bunch of guts to do what he did, and he was right. He could have easily been the hero, and me the goat, seeing how close the points were.

I don't believe the attack was suspendable, but of course respect Matt's position on it.
We just have a difference of opinion.


I would like to openly apologize to the SFC universe for my dirty trick in collusion with my brother (who is NOT a multi account, my actual brother) because 3x the amount of res was sent back to him BEFORE my suspension it was lowered from 3 days to 24 hours. I made NO profit off of it, other than the 1000 war points (which is nothing compared to the 700,000 i got in the ninja on chuckles)

Steely i appreciate your comments, and chose not to reply to your hate mail yesterday.
With that said, the attack and subsequent victory was fair and square and i think we are all better than continued mud slinging on here.

Lets move on, and continue having fun, because this war was the best 2-3 weeks of this game i have had since i began playing in fall 2009.

Thanks to time for being worthy adversaries.
Thanks to Matt for listening to my perspective, and not judging on blanket statements made by others. While i have had very limited relations with you, you did earn my respect last night.

Best Regards,

Sean William K Mackay

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 03, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
MAtt please lock this board
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 03, 2012, 04:24:21 PM
@kaork i think your posting is missing as it was here a minute ago asking me to prove my 100mill ?

well heres a little proof for you mate cus for one i dont lie.

from manny
After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.


27,220,500 ore and 22,527,000 crystal are now floating at this location.



collected all DF as well obviously :)

from max
After 2 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 7,613 hydrogen.


14,382,600 ore and 10,374,450 crystal are now floating at this location.

i got:
To: steely
Date: 2012-06-01 15:49:28 UTC
Ore: 12,312,600, Crystal: 8,304,450

from seneca
To: steely
Date: 2012-05-30 11:22:41 UTC
Ore: 2,517,600, Crystal: 1,424,100

the rest were little bits from elsewhere in omega plus farming.

happy now.



Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Armus the Black on June 03, 2012, 04:31:41 PM
Agreed Steely, you guys played fair. I have no proof otherwise
Please consider the cheating comments retracted
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: jimy77 on June 03, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
I would like to agree with the comment that this war was the most fun in a long time.  Thanks to Omega for being tough as nails.  I will miss the RED!
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: steely on June 03, 2012, 04:58:58 PM
also mine, hot heads and all that and sorry for the txt.
iv had enough of this now and just want to rest find some more targets and destroy them.

happy hunting to everyone. 8) 8)
Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 03, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
As with the batleth cccs war its clear the war rules are shit and BFG surely must review them...

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Vlad the accounter on June 04, 2012, 08:03:58 PM
To all on both sides a very good and entertains war. Congrats to all.

Hey MP good read ?  :)
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 05, 2012, 01:36:20 PM
It would appear from all the reports of my guys being probbed and attacked from time that they can't honor a simple request.    Glade to see you guys are honorable.  Asked for a simple rebuild time and your attempting to pound us again already eh.  Do you know how many of you I have flown over Passed up and didn't prob over the past few days?  Since most of you are now out of dmode there's a lot of targets.  In all honesty I'm apalled that you don't have any more respect then this, however I'm not surprised in the least.   


To: Kaork
Date: 2012-06-05 09:01:55 UTC
is attacking me with 3500 hades ships impact in about 39 mins
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Title: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: GordonK on June 05, 2012, 03:47:13 PM
If the alliances agreed to this then its poor form for one alliance not to abide by it.....

have you pmd the culprits and exalined the situation? Some folks do not always read the forums when decrees such as this are made.

If they are aware then its pretty poor... Ping Hen or Elnino direct ..
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 05, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
If the alliances agreed to this then its poor form for one alliance not to abide by it.....

have you pmd the culprits and exalined the situation? Some folks do not always read the forums when decrees such as this are made.

If they are aware then its pretty poor... Ping Hen or Elnino direct ..

As I know both Hen and sky were aware of it I would have to agree with you that it is pretty poor.

We have pm's the leader.  As I have learned there is no talking to Hen about anything civial.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 05, 2012, 04:58:34 PM
Considering there is no agreement with Time, and I am in Time, why would I hold off attacking you guys?

Reavers only holds authority over myself when I am in MM. When I am in my home alliance only Elnino can order me not to attack you guys. I had already told Sean Mackay before the war ended that my plans after the war were to continue as normal. This is normal for me.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 05, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
Considering there is no agreement with Time, and I am in Time, why would I hold off attacking you guys?

Reavers only holds authority over myself when I am in MM. When I am in my home alliance only Elnino can order me not to attack you guys. I had already told Sean Mackay before the war ended that my plans after the war were to continue as normal. This is normal for me.


The agreement request was for all three alliances and you since it was directly related to you.  Your right being a complete arse is normal for you.   Had I known your intentions I would have hit three of your just out of dip members already.  I will be sure to escalate my heph on your alliances head if you RL wanting to go this route.  I will await your alliances response as I know for a fact there has been some discussion of yor game play on it.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: elnino on June 05, 2012, 06:00:05 PM
It is a bit rich of you Kaork to try and claim the high moral ground since BFG have said the last battle in the war would have been reversed had they been able to alter war points. Also we didn't use dirty tricks like you personally and some of your officers did like transporting resources to MM planets and then raiding them for plunder points.

Please show me where a Time Waster's officer or I agreed to a cease fire. I am astounded as to how you still can't grasp that Time and time are different alliances. You have a cease fire with time but not with Time. Is that simple enough for you?
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 05, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
It is a bit rich of you Kaork to try and claim the high moral ground since BFG have said the last battle in the war would have been reversed had they been able to alter war points. Also we didn't use dirty tricks like you personally and some of your officers did like transporting resources to MM planets and then raiding them for plunder points.

Please show me where a Time Waster's officer or I agreed to a cease fire. I am astounded as to how you still can't grasp that Time and time are different alliances. You have a cease fire with time but not with Time. Is that simple enough for you?



Does anyone else have a problem with what he just said?

Show us were BFG said they would reverse this?  I've recieved no such comments.  I see you still want the uni to believe you are two alliances are separate yet we were fighting both of you in both Time and time.  I see you feel. Cheated and can't take the loss like a man.   Well guess what. Points are on the board and you lost.  I felt cheated when you pulled the move and rejected my war request.  We could of kick both your butts.  You had your chance to war with us, and yet you took a chicken way out.  Where is the honor in that?  You have none that's where.   You claim we cheated blah blah yet we beat you by over 50k in points.  I don't think the 1000 plunder points really mattered did it?  Go find some other tree to try to piss on to claim your territory and hope that another pit bull doesn't bite your leg off again.

Enjoy explaining to your other alliance and alliances mates why they get rapped and pillaged.

Happy hunting
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 05, 2012, 10:28:28 PM
i will lay off where i am for a week or so give these guys a break for a while.

i miss the red :(



Hey Leader of TW isn't this guy in Time?  Not that it matters as it is now a mute point. Just thought I'd answer your question about showin you one Time member that agreed.

Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: TomL on June 06, 2012, 07:48:56 AM
Read Elninos question again and then try your answer again.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on June 06, 2012, 03:01:50 PM
Read Elninos question again and then try your answer again.


Yeah I imagin he's gonna be pissed you demoted him to try and cover.    Same old Time, never gets old.

As I said its now a mute point.  Might as well tell all your little guys in both alliances including that 7000 ranker in big Time to go right back to dmode cause you put them back on my rampage list due to being a total and complete .......


Hey Tom did BFG ever fix your fleet rank or are they still allowing you to present false info by having an extra 5000 capital ships that don't register?   And you say you don't lie.    Go buy ya another pus token tonight, your gonna need it.

K
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on October 21, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
WATCHOUT Universe. The guy with the Biggest Ego and smallest winky returns to the Uni. He claims to be the man of Sfc but he's never got me. Though he has tried he is nothing more then my KHAAAN. Try as he might there was the episode that you think he comes to grips, only to show up 2 years later crazier then RT MiTs.

I can picture it right now VTC sitting in his chair, but instead of Yelling Kirk all he is saying KAaaaaaaOoooooRrrrrK.

You will forever want revenge as Time will never end it though they are 0 for 2, and you, you are 0 for 20. Try as you might to bring me in site,, by saying things that you imagin you claim to have been planner. Planner of all things over the past 2 years Lord Overslayer heph must of also been expended. To say you planned it all is to say we've already beat you, if indeed you planned it, boy what a horrible planner. For I am still here, your Kirk, your Nemeses, and your Disamer.

To: Kaork
Date: 2012-10-20 09:00:23 UTC
I have returned. i want you to know all was orchestrated. Not against you, you are merely a pawn, but defeats suffered at your alliance's hands (your members, not yours personally, because you are weak) was me. All things happen because of me, I have an influence your feeble mind cannot begin to understand. Mr. Chuckles threw the match in preparation for this day, the day of my return. You see, Time Wasters, Time Wasters without me, is just an alliance, Time Wasters with me is the game a game you and your pedestrian tactics cannot match. I know you have been in fear of my return, Mr. Chuckles players his part as people would play for me often do, with honor and respect to that which matters, and that what matters, that is me.

Knowing you, you can cite victories of which you were not a part of, victories in which were one when you fell into a depth of madness.

If you do not initiate or accept the war request in 48 hours, you are the coward I always knew you were, because you know, in the long run, I will always beat you because I have a constant you can never match.

The constant being ... people will do more than fight for me. They will loose, they will sacrifice for me, and in the end they will triumph. I know this because over the past years, even members from your team, even the ones that did not join Time remained my friends.

See, the conflicts I had with you, it was because I wanted something, and I always get what I want, and my friends lost fleets to achieve that.

Mr. Chuckles, Ray took a dive cos I asked him to.

Let me tell ask you, you sorry excuse for a leader of a feeble alliance, do you have the courage to face the Time Wasters when you know VTC is there?

My guess is not. So spare me your reply, spare me your excuses and spare me your reasons not to accept or declare war on Time Wasters, because I know you unlike anyone else does. I know you are a scared child that hates to go against a Superior mind, even if I went to great lengths to be the underdog. You, you are a coward.

Accept or wage, but don't fill my inbox with excuses.

VTC-
Time Waster / Lord of All Galaxies
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VTC®™    War    about 4 hours ago
To: Kaork
Date: 2012-10-21 08:20:14 UTC
I guess I was right, you know, deep inside of your mind that you could never win a war against an alliance with me in command.

That is ok. Beat an alliance such as MM or Time Wasters, is not the same as beating an alliance with me in it.

At least you have shown that you have matured, that you know that any response against me is futile because you know there is not a time or a universe that you can beat me in. And the universe is learning about your fear of VTC. If it makes you feel better, they totally understand, because there is nothing to fear but fear and me, VTC, the greatest commander, leader, player, that has ever or will be.

Cheers,

BTW, TW totally understands your fear of going up against an alliance I am a part of, who in the right mind would want to go up against me. I am glad to see you have become smarter than you were when we first met.
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Just we are clear, chuckles lost his fleet to his only weakness, greed of profit which I knew that would get him. Carefully orcastrated, Sean set the trap, while I ran a diversiance talking to him in chat. It's all posted above you will see some post just prior to the blow. I wasn't sure it work but it was one of many plans that we had going on. I'm sorry my old friend, but you have since been able to admend.

Btw VTC, welcome back to the game, this time please try to be saine.

Kaork


Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Mr. Chuckles on October 22, 2012, 01:06:13 PM
Do me a favor and don't drag me into your insanity -- that goes for the both of you  :)

I play this game how I choose -- and I think I've clearly had more success than failure.
Title: Re: Ω 4K vrs TIME/time
Post by: Kaork on October 22, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
Lol, I'm not the one dragging you in mate.  Enough said, moving  on.