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Title: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 10, 2013, 04:59:40 PM
OK I'm loving the tourney and have noticed a few things

A guy that has crap mines is now no 5 for fleet, this guy is in the same allaince as the other 3 large fleets - this so has to go on the forum

Ive messaged them and asked why they are building 40K probes each fleet and no response

Admiral Tracker Jacker‎              ANH    72,176 <-probe warrior
Warlord Mama‎    ‎                 [?:?:?]    70,502
Vice Admiral Tearss‎ (p)           ANH    68,117 <-probe warrior
Supreme Conqueror Eugine‎                    67,699
Fleet Admiral b-low-me‎ (p)      ANH    61,103 <-probe warrior

Are they that desperate to get the no 1 fleet score?

I believe this was behind Mama's (I love mama <3 <3 <3) request to have the fleet rank modified

TRACKER JACKER'S SHIPS:
* Hermes Class Probe: 44,955
* Artemis Class Fighter: 10,437

B-LOW-ME'S SHIPS:
* Hermes Class Probe: 23,326
* Artemis Class Fighter: 18,963


*** EDIT - I also love Pantin <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 10, 2013, 05:07:11 PM
I have in the past asked Matt to change the count for probes and also brought it up the other day.

What skills are involved in fighting with probes LOL, yes they may draw away some rapid fire on other ships if your attacked, but for gods sake this is a tourney.

I must say ANH you really know how to play well with probes, so glad I hit one of you guys a few days ago -- he had over 51k of probes lmao.

Seriously bfg you need to look at fleet count and rectify it ASAP before you drive people away from playing more tournaments
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: brakeman on September 10, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
Probes should not be included at all in fleet rank. Especially in the Tournament. It creates an unfair advantage to large Alliances in the end..
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 10, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Maybe I should offer to show ANH where we would like to shove there probes :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Zarchne on September 10, 2013, 05:37:30 PM
I have in the past asked Matt to change the count for probes and also brought it up the other day.

And he reasserted yesterday that they will not be changing it (http://forum.playstarfleet.com/index.php?topic=20094.msg244068#msg244068), at least not in a permanent universe.

Probes are good defense against Erebus, which have no RF and an individual shot so weak that probes survive.  And Erebus are the fastest ship capable of taking down a Hepha.  For what that's worth.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 10, 2013, 05:40:46 PM
And he reasserted yesterday that they will not be changing it (http://forum.playstarfleet.com/index.php?topic=20094.msg244068#msg244068), at least not in a permanent universe.

Probes are good defense against Erebus, which have no RF and an individual shot so weak that probes survive.  And Erebus are the fastest ship capable of taking down a Hepha.  For what that's worth.

That is why we are pushing for BFG to change this in tournament

Also I do know that a heph can be taken down with Erebus, so please go teach elsewhere lol
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 10, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
Send your probes to me Mama. LOL  I suspect you've got more than is needed for probing.
Tracker Jacker
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 10, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Send your probes to me Mama. LOL  I suspect you've got more than is needed for probing.
Tracker Jacker

Everyone has noticed - can you explain why you need that many probes? I'm even more curious why the players in perpetual p mode need them

I've only ever seen this once by Baron Von Goo in uni 2 and he had about 100K
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 10, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
Send your probes to me Mama. LOL  I suspect you've got more than is needed for probing.
Tracker Jacker


Yep guess 1460 probes is too much, pm me your coords and I will send some your way :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 10, 2013, 10:54:58 PM
TRACKER JACKER'S SHIPS:
* Hermes Class Probe: 44,955
* Artemis Class Fighter: 10,437

B-LOW-ME'S SHIPS:
* Hermes Class Probe: 23,326
* Artemis Class Fighter: 18,963


kill there probes and watch there rank drop like a stone , they don't know how to play , they cant play cause there afraid to play , thats why there in perpetual protected mode
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 10, 2013, 10:57:08 PM

Yep guess 1460 probes is too much, pm me your coords and I will send some your way :D

I only have 1000 :(

I feel wholy inadequite in this uni
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Pantin on September 10, 2013, 11:10:11 PM
I feel wholy inadequite

You kinda are...
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 10, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
I'm never in p mode. Though I did win a 24hr that I'm saving for the last day just in case.  I frs the old fashioned way.  Any more misdirected insults?  P mode gives a ton of advantages.  Frequently half or more of the players ahead of me are in p mode.  They can build ships while sleeping without any worry.  Doesn't take talent for that.
Tracker Jacker
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 12:18:49 AM
You kinda are...

I know; that's why I mentioned it

I'm never in p mode. Though I did win a 24hr that I'm saving for the last day just in case.  I frs the old fashioned way.  Any more misdirected insults?  P mode gives a ton of advantages.  Frequently half or more of the players ahead of me are in p mode.  They can build ships while sleeping without any worry.  Doesn't take talent for that.
Tracker Jacker

My insults are never misdirected - can you please tell me why you have so many probes? If you don't actually know then please just say so rather than your misdirection - then you can maybe let me know how having over 40K probes affects game play?

I'm truly disconbobulated as to why anyone would have that many probes and no fleet backbone
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 11, 2013, 12:35:42 AM

I'm truly discombobulated as to why anyone would have that many probes and no fleet backbone

maybe he has no backbone only probes , guess he just fires blanks :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 01:48:44 AM
I'm not in this forum enough to know who everybody is, but yes, your insult is misdirected.  You showed 2 players info and said that they are always in p mode blah blah blah.  Well, I am next to never in p mode. So in that respect you are wrong.  And isn't it obvious that probes count as one ship so they accumulate points the quickest.  They are also pretty good as fodder.  I have enough cap ships to have a backbone.  I had the #1 player indicate that I had too many ships for them to attack me.  I think it was more that it wouldn't be profitable as his fleet definitely would win but it would have been quite messy.  This uni ends in a few days and it has been pretty clear that the activity is dropping off.  But I have been probing still. Just not finding much left out when I am online.  I think I've done pretty well for someone not using the p mode advantage.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 06:14:35 AM
The no 1 player lies a lot - I'm pretty sure he could take your entire fleet just using his fodder as could the top 4-5 fleets that arent ANH.

So basically you guys are trying to just get the no 1 fleet spot?

The top miners in the uni are making about 70-75mill per day converted, I'm pretty sure they could merch that to crystal and blow the probe acount away as their fleets aren't that far off you guys but they only have around 1000 probes so the rest is (I'm assuming) real pew pew pew ships

And I think everyone irrespective of rank thats still playing has done well in this tourney
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 09:41:51 AM
I'm not in this forum enough to know who everybody is, but yes, your insult is misdirected.  You showed 2 players info and said that they are always in p mode blah blah blah.  Well, I am next to never in p mode. So in that respect you are wrong.  And isn't it obvious that probes count as one ship so they accumulate points the quickest.  They are also pretty good as fodder.  I have enough cap ships to have a backbone.  I had the #1 player indicate that I had too many ships for them to attack me.  I think it was more that it wouldn't be profitable as his fleet definitely would win but it would have been quite messy. I think I've done pretty well for someone not using the p mode advantage.

Sorry but no. My Artemis alone could wipe out your whole probe fleet in one round. Probes don't make that great of fodder unless you're turtle busting.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 01:07:23 PM
Of course. but I will never leave my probes out alone for your arties.  They aren't fodder when they are alone, they're dead meat.  Speaking of unlikely scenarios, feel free to send your arties over to my planet and see how they do.  I never said that probes were good alone.  Where did you get that idea?
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 01:25:56 PM
Can I send my arties?

I can obliterate your fleet without using a single capitol ship. Only 2 proms and a decoy survive agaisnt my fodder alone Possi upwards on battlementat.

Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
Sorry but no. My Artemis alone could wipe out your whole probe fleet in one round. Probes don't make that great of fodder unless you're turtle busting.

You have too many arties - you should build some apollo
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 01:44:05 PM
First you would have to catch them.  What is your definition of fodder?  Everything below athena?  So your arties, apollo, erebus, empusa (not likely LOL), posi, pallas, moros & curetes would beat my whole fleet?  I suspect that fleet would take substantial losses.  You probably have 4 times (or more) the fleet power that I have so I'm not likely to be hunting you.  My probes make your losses higher and they count as fleet points.  I'll whine about the advantages of p mode since mama wants to whine about probes counting as ships. LOL
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
Artemis
Erebus
Apollo
Curetes
Poseidon

I lose 13K RSP and make 300K DSP - Substantial losses?

Nope

http://battlementat.com/#aApollo=20000&aArmor=14&aArtemis=20000&aCuretes=2000&aErebus=20000&aPoseidon=5000&aShield=14&aWeapons=14&dAnti=24&dApollo=1541&dAres=50&dArmor=12&dArtemis=10437&dAthena=962&dAtlas=44&dCarmanor=26&dCharon=5&dCrystal=818843&dCuretes=2999&dDionysus=205&dErebus=2622&dGauss=32&dHades=210&dHercules=273&dHermes=44955&dHydrogen=7268819&dLarge=1&dLaser=450&dLocation=1%3A24%3A19&dMissile=29018&dMoros=194&dOre=2861563&dPallas=33&dParticle=60&dPlasma=18&dPoseidon=594&dPrometheus=200&dPulse=40&dRSP=383694&dShield=11&dSpace=100&dWeapons=12&dZagreus=1013

High losses - NOPE, I think that this proves that the function of your probes might not be what you think

That was of course based on a circulated Esp report from this time yesterday - you could have a lot more probes now for all I know?
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 11, 2013, 02:23:44 PM
I only have 1000 :(

I feel wholy inadequite in this uni


LMAO Inadequite????????? now there is one for Welshie to start a chat in skype ROFL
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 02:27:40 PM

LMAO Inadequite????????? now there is one for Welshie to start a chat in skype ROFL

It will just get copy/pasted you know that ;)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 02:40:08 PM
I'm not building the probes primarily for fodder but for fleet points.  Not much else to do in the last few days.  BTW, your losses are 94k.  Your assuming you get all the debris.  Of course I get pasted, that has got to be more than half your fleet power.  I wouldn't count 5000 posi as fodder in this uni.  You could take out most of the fleets in this uni with those alone. LOL
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 02:52:22 PM
I'm not building the probes primarily for fodder but for fleet points.  Not much else to do in the last few days.  BTW, your losses are 94k.  Your assuming you get all the debris.  Of course I get pasted, that has got to be more than half your fleet power.  I wouldn't count 5000 posi as fodder in this uni.  You could take out most of the fleets in this uni with those alone. LOL

Not really - I get really pasted agaisnt the top 10 fleets, the only exception being probe heavy fleets which is why im interested

I was assuming no debris just a points only scenario
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
You are assuming debris. Your losses are about 94k dsp.  I don't think I am reading mentat wrong?  It's still a slaughter for 300,000 dsp. LOL
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Well I have ships left enough to go on - you have 2 proms

I'm game :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Mama on September 11, 2013, 03:17:19 PM
It will just get copy/pasted you know that ;)

I will get welshie to add me to the chat :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Of course. but I will never leave my probes out alone for your arties.  They aren't fodder when they are alone, they're dead meat.  Speaking of unlikely scenarios, feel free to send your arties over to my planet and see how they do.  I never said that probes were good alone.  Where did you get that idea?

Be careful what you wish for. My Artemis could take your whole fleet. ;)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 03:28:59 PM
I will get welshie to add me to the chat :D

theres a lot of facepalming going on!
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Be careful what you wish for. My Artemis could take your whole fleet. ;)

No they couldnt - even at a generous 16/16/16

http://battlementat.com/#aArmor=15&aArtemis=35000&aShield=15&aWeapons=15&dAnti=24&dApollo=1541&dAres=50&dArmor=12&dArtemis=10437&dAthena=962&dAtlas=44&dCarmanor=26&dCharon=5&dCrystal=818843&dCuretes=2999&dDionysus=205&dErebus=2622&dGauss=32&dHades=210&dHercules=273&dHermes=44955&dHydrogen=7268819&dLarge=1&dLaser=450&dLocation=1%3A24%3A19&dMissile=29018&dMoros=194&dOre=2861563&dPallas=33&dParticle=60&dPlasma=18&dPoseidon=594&dPrometheus=200&dPulse=40&dRSP=383694&dShield=11&dSpace=100&dWeapons=12&dZagreus=1013
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 03:35:14 PM
Hush you. I already have a lot more than 35k. And I said fleet. There wouldn't be any defences by the time my Artemis got there. :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ian8144 on September 11, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
I heard my name mentioned .... what need copy/pasting and to where?
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
@Vastet, that assumes that I'm offline. LOL  Would make quite a mess for this uni.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
No it doesn't. Noone in g1 between 19 & 77 could prevent me from destroying their d. I can launch 85 missiles simultaneously and immediately at anyone between those systems. And follow it up very quickly with an F5, an F4, 2 F3s and an F2 pumping out missiles faster than you can build abms.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
I was referring to you getting my fleet.  Not the destruction of def with nukes.  Anyone can do that to me when I am in FRS.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 04:19:51 PM
If you frs'd then there'd be no mess. And, unlike most, I could take out your d even if you weren't frs'd.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 11, 2013, 04:53:57 PM
I heard my name mentioned .... what need copy/pasting and to where?

Can you add mama to the sheep room please?
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 11, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
1    Vas‎   ‎[?:?:?]    81,667
2    Tracker Jacker‎   ANH    81,107

Someone had to kick the probe fleets out of #1. > >
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 01:25:04 PM
No it doesn't. Noone in g1 between 19 & 77 could prevent me from destroying their d. I can launch 85 missiles simultaneously and immediately at anyone between those systems. And follow it up very quickly with an F5, an F4, 2 F3s and an F2 pumping out missiles faster than you can build abms.

and there he/she goes again boasting about the size of his nukes , which im sure a lot of guys/gals could tell ya where they would like you to put them ( - )   :P
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 02:29:58 PM
Go troll elsewhere little one. Stating a fact is not boasting.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: silly_me on September 12, 2013, 03:24:38 PM
who is bw1 in the game?  lol.

Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
Go troll elsewhere little one. Stating a fact is not boasting.

well that depends if your a giver or receiver ;)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
who is bw1 in the game?  lol.



Noone of any importance or skill. :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
I'm already bored with this game - thank the heavens it finishes tomorrow
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
ps - your arties still can't take his fleet - KEEP ON BUILDING

http://battlementat.com/#aArmor=15&aArtemis=45000&aShield=15&aWeapons=15&dAnti=24&dApollo=1541&dAres=50&dArmor=12&dArtemis=10437&dAthena=962&dAtlas=44&dCarmanor=26&dCharon=5&dCrystal=818843&dCuretes=2999&dDionysus=205&dErebus=2622&dGauss=32&dHades=210&dHercules=273&dHermes=44955&dHydrogen=7268819&dLarge=1&dLaser=450&dLocation=1%3A24%3A19&dMissile=29018&dMoros=194&dOre=2861563&dPallas=33&dParticle=60&dPlasma=18&dPoseidon=594&dPrometheus=200&dPulse=40&dRSP=383694&dShield=11&dSpace=100&dWeapons=12&dZagreus=1013
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
I have more than 50k now. You're still off. :P
And I still can't use battle mentat.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
Noone of any importance or skill. :)

well you attacks on me ,FAILED, cause you have no skill , and your french, and have a big jar of vaseline :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 04:43:52 PM
55K arties agaisnt his fleet from 2 days ago using techs of 15/15/15

3 of your arties live, mos tof his probes die and about half of his arties - thats all you kill

http://battlementat.com/#aArmor=15&aArtemis=55000&aShield=15&aWeapons=15&dAnti=24&dApollo=1541&dAres=50&dArmor=12&dArtemis=10437&dAthena=962&dAtlas=44&dCarmanor=26&dCharon=5&dCrystal=818843&dCuretes=2999&dDionysus=205&dErebus=2622&dGauss=32&dHades=210&dHercules=273&dHermes=44955&dHydrogen=7268819&dLarge=1&dLaser=450&dLocation=1%3A24%3A19&dMissile=29018&dMoros=194&dOre=2861563&dPallas=33&dParticle=60&dPlasma=18&dPoseidon=594&dPrometheus=200&dPulse=40&dRSP=383694&dShield=11&dSpace=100&dWeapons=12&dZagreus=1013
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 04:47:15 PM

 I still can't use battle mentat.

im so sorry you are psychologically impotent  ;)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
@ Phil
Whatever Mr Smart Ass. I wouldn't send fodder to kill him anyway and neither would you. :P

@ The cute little troll who doesn't pay attention and can't compare to my awesomeness

So you say, but without knowing which of the irrelevant masses you are I'm not inclined to believe you.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 06:11:16 PM
No it doesn't. Noone in g1 between 19 & 77 could prevent me from destroying their d. I can launch 85 missiles simultaneously and immediately at anyone between those systems. And follow it up very quickly with an F5, an F4, 2 F3s and an F2 pumping out missiles faster than you can build abms.

luckily for some of us we aren't located between 19-77 :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 06:20:45 PM

@ The cute little troll who doesn't pay attention and can't compare to my awesomeness


oh so you compare your awesomeness to kung fu panda, a 2 dimensional cartoon character?

which is bigger your ego or your head???
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 06:26:33 PM
lolol I'm not a kid like yourself. Referring to media for children simply reaffirms your patheticness and means nothing to me. :)

My ego and my head cannot be measured in such a fashion that they can be compared. By the time you get out of grade school you'll probably have been educated more in Science and English and won't make such foolish comparisons. :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 06:52:33 PM
@ Phil
Whatever Mr Smart Ass. I wouldn't send fodder to kill him anyway and neither would you. :P

Actually I would, thats why I made my original statemenet and proved it via the art of Battlementat

I lose he haw in an attack on his entire fleet using my fodder (my fodder is mixed for maximum effect) I love fodder - especially Apollo <3 <3 <3

I'd quite happily go against that fleet using only the ships in that sim because my fodder would rip him a new asshole
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
Yet your capital ships would be faster, take much fewer losses, and the rip would be just as big.
My Artemis by themselves wouldn't kill it. You've proved I sometimes exaggerate. Grats. But my fodder would do about as well as yours, and I wouldn't waste them that way anyway.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 07:22:52 PM
Ah, I would as they are faster to rebuild and I have 9 F4's so they would be back to full strength very quickly and I wouldnt have to add much hydro to the build

Seems like a good idea to me - I might just try it

But as far as I have seen he's never offline long enough to get hit so theres that poo poo'd
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
lolol I'm not a kid like yourself. Referring to media for children simply reaffirms your patheticness and means nothing to me. :)

My ego and my head cannot be measured in such a fashion that they can be compared. By the time you get out of grade school you'll probably have been educated more in Science and English and won't make such foolish comparisons. :)

i was referring you using children's media so you would understand , my objective confirms that :)

so any more lip  from you my boy, i will sic Zeus3‎ onto you :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
@ Phil:

I don't know about you but if I sent a real fleet at him my losses would be rebuilt before they got home and then some.

@ the cute little troll:

Your being familiar with childrens media betrays your attempts to project your childishness onto me. I had to look up your favourite movie just to find out it was a kid flick.
And Zeus can't do shit. He starts firing nukes at me and he'll find himself defenceless. I have lots more than he does, and while he isn't in range of my largest concentration of silos, he is well within range of enough of them. While he can only hit two of my least defended worlds I can hit all 9 of his with ease.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 08:20:14 PM

And Zeus can't do shit. He starts firing nukes at me and he'll find himself defenceless. I have lots more than he does, and while he isn't in range of my largest concentration of silos, he is well within range of enough of them. While he can only hit two of my least defended worlds I can hit all 9 of his with ease.

in our little battle I have more dsp off you (mind you its only about 100) and you have taken a little less then 6 million resources from me. And yes I fired nukes at you and destroyed this...
* Missile Battery: 800
* Laser Cannon: 800
* Space Mine: 20
* Pulse Cannon: 100
* Particle Cannon: 100
* Anti-Ballistic Missile: 40
* Decoy: 1
* Interplanetary Ballistic Missile: 10
* Gauss Cannon: 20
* Large Decoy: 1
* Plasma Cannon: 10

To: Zeus3
Date: 2013-09-11 18:34:03 UTC
Your Missile Strike on Asa ‎[1:94:*] has completed.

To: Zeus3
Date: 2013-09-11 18:34:04 UTC
Your Missile Strike on Asa ‎[1:9*:6] has completed
there were a few more...

So in the end I say I won this little tiff and have you annihilated any of my planets? you got 24 hours though get cracking.
I like how you claim if I fired at you I would be defenseless yet I did and I got all my DEFENSES booYAH! 8)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Because you destroyed peanuts and I still made a profit (dsp from sats was irrelevant to the more than 10M converted res I made from you) and hurt you more than you hurt me. I laughed as you wasted more than half a million res destroying nothing. And if you want to waste more, go for it.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 08:29:54 PM
all good you spent resources to build it back up, was worth it to me, personal satisfaction, you sat bashed for mere res I hit you back.

But the point is you claimed you would destroy me and you didn't. I don't comment on here much but I had to because once in awhile you call the bull shitter out. Just like your claim of using artemis to take our his fleet on his planet which was wrong as well.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
Liar. I farmed you. You sat bashed me. And I still made a profit. And you still lost more than I did. Go on, build your nukes and waste real money bouncing in and out of p mode. You make my victory all the sweeter.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
But the point is you claimed you would destroy me and you didn't.

Learn about context before you make a fool of yourself. :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
Hurry up fool, I want to laugh as you blow up more defences that can't give me anything but the satifaction of wasting your $ anyway. :)

Maybe it'll help if I tell you I spent the res I took from you on those defences, and then built a few hundred ships with what was left over? :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
I waste resources on ibms and you rebuild defenses so your wasting resources too, better then you trying to hit me for some overnight resources.

And don't worry these last 2 24s hour pmode I got from the lottery I won't have to waste money.

I just look at it this way you spent a lot more to build that defense back up, if you take what you took for me and what I spent on ibms you still had to waste more to build your defense back up and its not to the point it was at.

The whole reason I commented is cause your a goof and your dumbass said you would destroy me but you didn't. You talk more shit then you serve, once in awhile you should just shut it  :-X
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
More lies. I said if you launched at me today I'd blow you up. But I'm just as happy watching you waste real $ avoiding it. You can pretend you won those all you like, I know better. You spent most of the tournament in p mode. And even after you waste real $ and more nukes I'll STILL have made a profit off of you. :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
lies you never said it was today.
oh please you go pmode every night...I spend 1/4 what you might have.  ::)

I will end it with this that I proved your statements false sunshine.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 09:16:52 PM
Lies, I said it today.
And you've been in p 24/7 almost the whole tournament, while I've been p every night for half of the tournament. You've spent 10x as much as me, at least.
And I'll end with this: While you hide I'm farming millions of res. In the last hour alone I've farmed twice as much res as all the defences on that planet AND the rebuilding of them combined.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ian8144 on September 12, 2013, 09:47:11 PM
1    Supreme Conqueror Eugine‎       3,352,904
2    Grand Warlord Vas‎ (p)    ‎[?:?:?]    3,078,782
3    Grand Warlord Pantin‎       2,324,098



mmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 09:49:08 PM
Ah I love psychological warfare. Especially against inferior opponents who telegraph their intentions. Now that I've nuked one of your new allies and you've spent enough time to have comitted yourself and some of your friends to the cause, I can dash your hopes and dreams whilst going through the last of my credits, for which I have no use anyway, and start enjoying my new PS3 a few hours early. :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
if your that good , vaseline,  why then aren't you number 1 , which your not cause eugine is and your just so cowardly to attack him cause he would eat your little flt, and as you can see zeus 3 ain't scared of your  bulling tactics cause your crap at this game mawhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa   :-*
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
and start enjoying my new PS3 a few hours early. :D

yeagh go play with yourself
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
lol Why aren't you #1? or #2 even? I'm #1 in RSP, Fleet, Research, and Achievements. Where are you? That's right, you're b low me.

Always liked that play on words. :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 12, 2013, 09:58:55 PM
But what everyone needs to remember - there are only 2 ranks that count in a war game

No 1 overall and No 1 DSP and they both belong to Ken Millar!

So despite anyones bragging or boasting not one of us would touch him, then there would be a mistake by Dark One which was a shame but these things happen so he would have been in contention - if the game was at the level before his ninja then i would have taken to hephing earlier and been on the DSP game, as it happens I didn't need to

Always remember, we are there because 2 better players took themselves out of the game.

If Dark didn't crash I would have taken this uni a bit more serous as I would have pushed him for second irrespective of what Ken had done - no one in this uni would have taken Ken.

Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 10:02:30 PM
Yeah Ken had it easy. He might even have been able to take it if he'd been back for the last week like he'd originally thought.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: buckweed 1 on September 12, 2013, 10:09:41 PM
you ridiculed  zeus 3 for going into protected mode which he won on the lottery , but you go into protected mode at the drop of a hat , what's wrong can ya not fleetsave , has no one taught ya how, go play your ps3 by yourself , hmmmmmm who's the child now then?????
oh i hear your mummy coming to wipe your little touche and dry your eyes boo hoo hooo ;D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Jasonb_03 on September 12, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
you guys probing each other is quite exciting!! In as far as reading a forum thread... As far as the tourney goes though, building all those probes seems quite derka derka to me. Hey just my opinion. At least I don't need enough vaseline to hide all those probes every night(or the cash to buy pussy cat mode) when I go to sleep lalalalalalalalallalalalallala
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 12, 2013, 10:47:52 PM
There's a significant difference between popping in and out of p mode to probe/fire missiles and hitting it once to go off and do something else after goading someone into building a bunch of nukes he'll not get a chance to use. But then I wouldn't expect a little kid to understand something as advanced as psychological warfare. :D

Besides, my p mode was completely free. My new PS3 doesn't hang up on the offers page like the last one did. And there are a lot of free credits there that I'd never taken advantage of. :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Leela on September 12, 2013, 11:13:06 PM
This thread was very entertaining from the first comments regarding ANH players building probes to inflate their fleet rank, to the very amusing banter about nuking... Vas you and I have had the nuking discussion in game already,you know where I stand on it so I will not repeat myself!!  I am thinking it is a good time for the game to end as this discussion proves things are deteriorating quickly!!  :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 12, 2013, 11:44:36 PM
There's a significant difference between popping in and out of p mode to probe/fire missiles and hitting it once to go off and do something else after goading someone into building a bunch of nukes he'll not get a chance to use. But then I wouldn't expect a little kid to understand something as advanced as psychological warfare. :D

Besides, my p mode was completely free. My new PS3 doesn't hang up on the offers page like the last one did. And there are a lot of free credits there that I'd never taken advantage of. :)

Kid you're an habitual liar. Seriously popping in and out to hit? First off I hit you yesterday and then went pmode so you would attempt to sat bash or overnight raid.
And I'm in pmode today to finish the tourney.

And assuming I was popping back and forth to nuke you then that would give you the ability to hit me back and annilahate my planets as you claimed earlier, right? since you like to flaunt your great fear inducing abilities why didn't this happen.

You may be great at the game but your life skills are pathetic and you just got lawyered son.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 01:52:03 AM
I already proved you're a liar multiple times over. You're just a little baby who got owned, had a nuke tantrum, then got punked while trying to set up for another one by a guy who out-classes you in every conceivable way. You popped out to probe me and popped right back in again. I know because I was watching. Then you busted down all your abms to que ipbms, again I know because I was watching. You planned to pop out, nuke me, and pop in again before I could return fire. But alas. I waited until you ran to ANH, then I nuked one of them, and then I qued a free p mode so all your efforts were in vain. I outplayed you the whole uni, and then in the last 24 hours I also punked you. Because you're a dumb kid it was pathetically easy to do. Final score between us has me up millions of res in profits over you.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: ... on September 13, 2013, 07:33:47 AM
How could you watch lies again or spending money or shadow probes again proving somewhere you lied about not spending money(and I didn't rebuild any)
And I didn't go hide to Anh, i joined in helping them keep #1 rank.
And your saying I had a tantrum when you nuked some innocent player for me pissing you off, at least my attacks were warranted. See every time you comment it proves your not that smart.
And I did probe you out of pmode I wanted to see if our rebuilt your defence since you claimed of didn't then I did 2 hits on my in system player and went to to pmode about an hour after.
A player of your amazing skill had about 60 mins to take me out, you didn't even bother probing back.

And let's be honest only rank that matters is number 1
Ain't nobody remember second sunshine.
Jordan was the man do we even talk about Charles barkleys accomplishments? No we just remember the champs. Everybody loses.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 09:58:54 AM
I didn't spend any $ on shadow probes, I just watched you light up every planet immediately after I made a fool of you. And since they'd been lit 20 minutes previously, there was nothing else you were likely to be doing. So again you lie and I catch you out on it.

Since I never claimed you went to ANH to hide, that qualifies as another lie.

I didn't nuke an innocent player, I nuked a known cheat who never got suspended for cheating, who happened to have also joined ANH to help them get #1.

Though of course ANH isn't really #1. With about twice as many players as #2, they are just an alliance of noobs like they always are.

Every time you comment you prove you are dumb as a rock. :D

I never claimed I didn't rebuild my defences, yet another lie.

I don't probe back usually. Why bother? You didn't do anything but probe. lol

And people who claim only #1 matters are stupid. Just because you're too dumb to remember top tens doesn't mean everyone is. But of course you couldn't even make top 20.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Alldow on September 13, 2013, 10:06:59 AM
why would you let him get you goat it is just a game and we all play to have fun when anyone lets it get them mad or upset then you are the real loser :'(
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 10:17:37 AM
If you are referring to me, then you should know I have as much fun slapping down trolls and punks on a forum as I do in the game. Every time I get another half baked response packed with falsehoods, excuses, and whines; I've won yet again.

If you're referring to him, quit trying to ruin my fun! :D
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: gypsy88 on September 13, 2013, 10:56:31 AM
You trolling big time this morning vasy????
Bridge must be under construction and you can't get back under...???
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: renykeny on September 13, 2013, 01:11:39 PM
 ;D love the thread!...grats tp all you guys that finished!..!!..grats to eugine for taking top spot!
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 13, 2013, 02:09:37 PM
;D love the thread!...grats tp all you guys that finished!..!!..grats to eugine for taking top spot!

Thanks Ken

Snuggles?
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: silly_me on September 13, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
I'm already bored with this game - thank the heavens it finishes tomorrow

sorry, I tried to make it more interesting, in the end I just got too busy, my step mom can't take care of my dad again, so that takes up half my day.  At least pantin had fun blowing up the bulk of my fleet after finding it hidden in deep space.

Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: renykeny on September 13, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
 ;D  next uni I will try to snuggle again!
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
You trolling big time this morning vasy????
Bridge must be under construction and you can't get back under...???

I'm the anti-troll. I live in a tower. Noone can knock me down. Everyone who tried, failed. :)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Devil_Spawn on September 13, 2013, 06:11:21 PM
Thank fook that is all over...

got a little fed up of the begging to join ANH just to get above [?.?.?]...

not built fleet since i let my start up ships get crashed , since then just built a few defs until 2 days ago and started building fleet and got to a reasonable fleet count.........NOT PROBES............ BTW...

And it was really sad that in the last 2 days of the uni that i built enough fleet to make it into the top80 or so for fleet with a score of less than 2k......
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Phil M on September 13, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
I'm the anti-troll. I live in a tower. Noone can knock me down. Everyone who tried, failed. :)

Except me
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Monkey D. Luffy on September 13, 2013, 07:40:11 PM
Wait... there's a troll and an anti-troll who lived in a tower?... when did this story turn into Snow White and the Huntsman?...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-urNq3tmZI
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Audacious on September 13, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
I'm the anti-troll. I live in a tower. Noone can knock me down. Everyone who tried, failed. :)

lolwut? You're the biggest troll on the forum, every thread you post on ends up devolving into a flamewar.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 08:33:42 PM
lolwut? You're the biggest troll on the forum, every thread you post on ends up devolving into a flamewar.

Because dear troll, trolls abhor an anti-troll and try to smash them. But they (and you) always fail.

@ Phil: You never knocked me down. You got #1 fair & square. But since you want to bring it up I feel obligated to point out that I beat you in 4 of the categories that matter, while you only beat me in 2. ;)
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: renykeny on September 13, 2013, 09:50:16 PM
 >:(  he beat you in the only category that matters,,its a wargame!..who gives a crap about research, achievement, etc....if you want to claim fleet as number one show a sim of your fleet kicking his ass!
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Audacious on September 13, 2013, 11:25:27 PM
Because dear troll, trolls abhor an anti-troll and try to smash them. But they (and you) always fail.

You're delusional.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 13, 2013, 11:30:22 PM
>:(  he beat you in the only category that matters,,its a wargame!..who gives a crap about research, achievement, etc....if you want to claim fleet as number one show a sim of your fleet kicking his ass!

That's your opinion. In my opinion the only leaderboards that don't matter are crew and defence.

You're delusional.

Projection.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Bravicus on September 14, 2013, 12:03:47 AM
Quote from: Vastet
That's your opinion.

My opinion's better than yours.  Neenerneenerneener!
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Alldow on September 14, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
if you are as awesome as you think then you would of been #1 in all and they all count but one in your over all ranking right so that all I got to say about that I did have a great time and thank you all for the fun and good time see you all in the next one
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Dark One on September 14, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
Congrats to Eugine and we all bow to the master Mr Miller.

However I think Phil was too kind to me in his comments. I screwed up twice, once by falling asleep in the sun and once cos I couldn't give a crap anymore and went all kamikaze. However this should not diminish the plaudits to jiggerknot and slug who executed their part exceedingly well and who both thoroughly deserved the points they got from me, we'll done guys.
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: renykeny on September 14, 2013, 12:59:05 AM
and the points jigger got from me as well..he executed a beautiful ninja on me as well
Title: Re: Fleet Scores
Post by: Vastet on September 14, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
My opinion's better than yours.  Neenerneenerneener!

In your opinion. :P

if you are as awesome as you think then you would of been #1 in all and they all count but one in your over all ranking right so that all I got to say about that I did have a great time and thank you all for the fun and good time see you all in the next one

Bullshit. I have never and will never claim to be the best gamer on Earth. I'm frankly disappointed I did as well as I did considering the effort I put into it. I should have been fortunate just to make the top 10. I didn't put half as much effort into hunting that Ken or Phil did.

I'd also like to give props to Slug and Jiggerknot. They had a number of beautiful ninjas each. Yes lag cost me against Slug, but when the report didn't show up right away as it should have, I should have recalled. Greedy I was.