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Title: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: 2$Bill on August 30, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
So it's been almost a week and some pretty good alliances have formed.  So the question now is, who don't you want as a neighbor?  What is the allinance that makes you think, "That bitch flag ain't so bad".  

Please comment on why.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: lord_demo on August 30, 2010, 02:57:59 PM
I submitted other, for the reason that if any of those players in that alliance are near me, it will promise only one thing, active players near by :)  What I don;t want to see is (I) and (i) sine they make things slow :(
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Hawkins on August 30, 2010, 03:09:06 PM
I voted other because I don't fear anyone. If they were parked near my planets then I'd at least have some real targets to hit.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Crt on August 30, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
You could add NTA on the list. Apart from my own alliance, scaring the hell out of me, RubiconX is a very stresfull presence for me as well. He just sits there, score growing, waiting. And some day the awsome lasers and missles i'm pumping out won't be enough and all will be lost.  I even sent him fluffy animals in a video and nothing.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 30, 2010, 05:43:12 PM
Comment on why?


Because I'm in ODB. I have over a 300 point RSP lead on the nearest guy to me...........and I'm a hunter.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: poeticmotion on August 30, 2010, 06:00:44 PM
In three days of active attacking in uni 2, I've forced two people into d mode and made a guy rageabandon a colony while I was on the way to attack it.

Yes, he abandoned a colony and the 31k in res on the ground because I was en route to attack it. And I had already recalled (he messaged me and said he would spend it) when he rageabandoned. It was a lot of res for wk 1 in the game.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Ptonjalken on August 30, 2010, 06:27:16 PM
As most of the forum junkies hopped on the ODB train for Uni2, this poll will be extremely inaccurate :P
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 30, 2010, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: "Ptonjalken"
As most of the forum junkies hopped on the ODB train for Uni2, this poll will be extremely inaccurate :P

There's a lot of forum junkies in carebears too ;)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: SGS 6 on August 30, 2010, 07:23:43 PM
I voted for ODB, but only because of the way Brian's running away from the pack in build points. On pure reputation, it would have been Exiled, with ODB a close second.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 30, 2010, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: "SGS 6"
I voted for ODB, but only because of the way Brian's running away from the pack in build points. On pure reputation, it would have been Exiled, with ODB a close second.


Reputation it's not even a question. ODB > all times a billion.

Have you seen the list of celebrities here? :lol:
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: poeticmotion on August 30, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Keep in mind, though, that the alliances are not the same as from uni 1.

For example, Badrash is in ODB even though he was Exiled in Uni 1. I'm ODB despite being UF6 in other universes. The core of each alliance might be based on that alliance's members in another universe, but there's a lot of turnover with people wanting to try out a different alliance. So it's a little soon to judge "most feared" given that the rep is going to be strongly based on that alliance's rep in uni 1 or Extreme and it's not necessarily the same players. I'm sure there's folks in Exiled and EMPIRE who are new to those alliances in their uni 2 incarnation as well. Some of those players are assets, some of them are liabilities, and alliance chemistry is still shaking out in some of these alliances.

That being said, Uni 2 ODB is as close to an all-star team as I can imagine. In addition to the uni 1 ODB folks, there's a lot of star players from other alliances who have joined up. Darkset and I from UF6, Badrash from Exiled, a lot of Top Gunners and NOBsters that are awesome, and representatives from several other uni 1 and X alliances. Based on the level of talent, I can't see anyone more fearsome in uni 2 than ODB. I consider myself to be a top-flight player, and I'm just middle of the pack with these guys. I'm learning new stuff every day.

Based on who I know to be in each alliance, I think the fight for #1 is going to be between ODB, Exiled, and EMPIRE, with Care Bears a dark horse to compete. Then again, I still don't know who all is playing uni 2 and where they are...so there could be an alliance I know nothing about that will come out of nowhere. AA and xXx are both top Extreme alliances, but do they have the guys in uni 2 that make them so dominant in X?

It's going to be difficult for any other alliance to match the crew uni 2 ODB has put together, though. We're going to cause some serious mayhem.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: SGS 6 on August 30, 2010, 07:41:16 PM
No offense meant with the rep - just that in Uni 1, due to my location, I've had a lot of dealings with Exiled, and not so much with ODB.

I'll be happy if Shadows (which is a combination of some WSF'ers and a bunch of other people we rounded up) can manage to hold onto something close to its current #10 ranking.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Hawkins on August 31, 2010, 05:36:22 AM
Going on reputation alone, well to be quite honest reputation means nothing to me and I could care less about any of these alliances. Of course everyone will put their own alliance as the most feared or at least most will. No offense to any of the other players out there but I've had almost no run ins with them in original. With the exception of a few of the bigger players. I don't think any alliance should be considered the most feared yet. Now least feared could be UFP since I've already had one of their members tell me off for sending an attack at him.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: HellraZr on August 31, 2010, 07:11:09 AM
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 31, 2010, 07:13:18 AM
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.


So, you are from empire in uni2 then?
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Phil M on August 31, 2010, 10:24:57 AM
I would just love some ODB players next to me.

Brian C is the one to chase though!

First ODB player (so far) to be #1 for overall rank and RSP's
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 31, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
Quote from: "Phil M"
I would just love some ODB players next to me.

Brian C is the one to chase though!

First ODB player (so far) to be #1 for overall rank and RSP's

And it will be the most short lived #1 ever!

Hehehe.

Getting ready to abandon a few colonies. Sigh.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Evan Woodard on August 31, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.

You realize that this is Uni2 right? My vote goes to Carebears. While ODB is a good alliance, they are at least sane. The Carebears are all nutters.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 31, 2010, 12:27:12 PM
Quote from: "Evan Woodard"
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.

You realize that this is Uni2 right? My vote goes to Carebears. While ODB is a good alliance, they are at least sane. The Carebears are all nutters.


That is a huge compliment, thank you.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: 2$Bill on August 31, 2010, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: "Evan Woodard"
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.

You realize that this is Uni2 right? My vote goes to Carebears. While ODB is a good alliance, they are at least sane. The Carebears are all nutters.

As well, I will take that as a complament.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Grummm on August 31, 2010, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Evan Woodard"
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.

You realize that this is Uni2 right? My vote goes to Carebears. While ODB is a good alliance, they are at least sane. The Carebears are all nutters.


That is a huge compliment, thank you.

That is a huge compliment, thank you.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Bravicus on August 31, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
One week in and we are already doing the Most Feared Alliance Shtick?  Really?  I mean REALLLY???????
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Crt on August 31, 2010, 04:07:26 PM
Well... considering it's here. Really.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: 2$Bill on August 31, 2010, 04:07:40 PM
oh yeah.  really!
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Bravicus on August 31, 2010, 04:19:30 PM
oh well then if we are really doing it...

going by which top 15 alliance has the top alliance average I'd say ODB, they are also the only alliance to be top 15 in both categories.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on August 31, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
I say the Master alliance is the most feared because we is the awesomenest alliance out there, nothing to do with me being the leader....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: poeticmotion on August 31, 2010, 07:29:49 PM
Sane? Have you seen our chat room? ODB is rational in play, but sane is a bit of a step.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: 2$Bill on August 31, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
I don't think ODB would let me in to judge.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Crt on August 31, 2010, 07:38:38 PM
I wanted to join but was refused  :cry:
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Captain Mephisto on August 31, 2010, 07:49:07 PM
Dont know a thing about ODB and their boards but they cant be any where near the level of "wow that just happened"ness as the carebear boards....shit we have Mona and 2$....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on August 31, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: "Captain Mephisto"
Dont know a thing about ODB and their boards but they cant be any where near the level of "wow that just happened"ness as the carebear boards....shit we have Mona and 2$....



Yeah, we're too busy clicking mindlessly, or using scripts, or powering up our keyboard pecking momentum birds, or building robots to do our bidding for us. ;)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: 2$Bill on August 31, 2010, 08:27:17 PM
that's so cool.  That's why I voted for ya'll.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Dread Pirate Ragnar on September 01, 2010, 03:59:48 AM
I want a keyboard pecking momentum bird!
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 04:01:17 AM
Quote from: "Dread Pirate Ragnar"
I want a keyboard pecking momentum bird!
250 dolla!
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Dread Pirate Ragnar on September 01, 2010, 04:02:59 AM
I dunno, that would buy me a bunch of androids...
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Inferno on September 01, 2010, 04:11:48 AM
(http://http://opereamipapa.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/drinking_bird.jpg?SSImageQuality=Full)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 04:16:42 AM
How many pecking momentum birds does it take to change a light bulb?
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Poetic Justice on September 01, 2010, 04:58:22 AM
Quote from: "Hawkins"
I voted other because I don't fear anyone. If they were parked near my planets then I'd at least have some real targets to hit.

+1
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Grummm on September 01, 2010, 04:58:58 AM
I think I've said elsewhere I want to be an ODB when I grow up.  Wait - does ODB mean the same thing in the alternate Universe?  OMG!!!  Could it really be...who is the leader check quick!  If it's Babe, the it really is Old Dirty Biatches!!!!

No?  {whew}  Cause THAT would have been an Alliance to contend with!  

I have the old and D down...I'm workin' on the B stuff.  Guess I'm just a Care Bear at heart.

[Shuddup sonny, or I'll crack your knees with my cane!]
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Victor Doom on September 01, 2010, 05:01:20 AM
:twisted: One nice thing about Universe 1.1 is that you can actually go eat at a Chinese buffet... have a beer.... smoke a cig... and when you get back.. chances are if someone attacked you as soon as you left they'd still be 30 minutes out..
.
 :twisted: It is amazing that back in the day I used to not only hunt in this speed, but that I was successful..  :twisted:
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 05:03:41 AM
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:twisted: One nice thing about Universe 1.1 is that you can actually go eat at a Chinese buffet... have a beer.... smoke a cig... and when you get back.. chances are if someone attacked you as soon as you left they'd still be 30 minutes out..
.
 :twisted: It is amazing that back in the day I used to not only hunt in this speed, but that I was successful..  :twisted:


You playing or trolling in Uni2?
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Victor Doom on September 01, 2010, 05:11:16 AM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "Victor Doom"
:twisted: One nice thing about Universe 1.1 is that you can actually go eat at a Chinese buffet... have a beer.... smoke a cig... and when you get back.. chances are if someone attacked you as soon as you left they'd still be 30 minutes out..
.
 :twisted: It is amazing that back in the day I used to not only hunt in this speed, but that I was successful..  :twisted:


You playing or trolling in Uni2?
.
 :twisted: Yes.. Though I don't think I can get into this speed... it's like watching grass grow after extreme...
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Phil M on September 01, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
I find it relaxing that you can run like 20 missions before an attack lands.

Someone battlecalcs and then you can build a couple of cannons and it changes the outcome of the battle :)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: HellraZr on September 01, 2010, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "HellraZr"
Seriously, who picked these alliances. The only one I can think of that might even be worth voting for is Empire. I picked other because I'm not really afraid of any of them. Starwars, Time, OBK, Who, xXx, KKND, Pug, KBF. Those are names that stick out to me. Hell, I have no idea who most of those other alliances even are.


So, you are from empire in uni2 then?
Nope.. Haven't really messed with Uni2. They said it was basically just a remake of the original. too slow for my taste, but I have friends in there, and most of the people I know stick to OBK.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Catfish on September 01, 2010, 07:31:03 PM
Its almost the same as U1, but its only 20 galaxies, and the mine production formula is stronger
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Mancunia on September 01, 2010, 09:06:31 PM
The best place to be is hungry, unknown and nobody fears you. Watch out for someone like that who came late to TOS
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on September 01, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
First before I read all the posts on this I will say that the alliances listed are feared in EGO not real threats, They can tear it up mind you but they are not the scariest ones. Legion, Unimat0, and others. there are many that have inspired far more fear than the ones here.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: "Admiral Firebringer"
First before I read all the posts on this I will say that the alliances listed are feared in EGO not real threats, They can tear it up mind you but they are not the scariest ones. Legion, Unimat0, and others. there are many that have inspired far more fear than the ones here.


 :lol:

Welcome to Uni2.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on September 01, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
I've been here for a week it locked me out of face book before I could switch to off site so I lost my start ship. I would fear SWaRM if I was not it but that is just my ego talking. Also I do not fear an alliance for just a few players in it.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: "Admiral Firebringer"
I've been here for a week it locked me out of face book before I could switch to off site so I lost my start ship. I would fear SWaRM if I was not it but that is just my ego talking. Also I do not fear an alliance for just a few players in it.

Well, welcome back. Although saying you fear Legion and Unimat0 more than some of the alliances listed is laughable, this being said by someone who used to be an officer IN unimat0
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Admiral Firebringer on September 01, 2010, 10:09:17 PM
I assume that the player that I care about in normal made it to uni 2 other wise I do not fear anyone thanks for welcoming me
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Jared1701 on September 01, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
We'll I'd vote for my alliance.  we're doing decent in uni2 also. we're rank 148 considering that not bad. when you think that most people may have payed money to get credits to advance them selves faster.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: "Jared1701"
We'll I'd vote for my alliance.  we're doing decent in uni2 also. we're rank 148 considering that not bad. when you think that most people may have payed money to get credits to advance them selves faster.

Nope. *looks at the leader board*
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 01, 2010, 10:34:03 PM
Yeah I still have my starting 10k credits... some people just know how to play the game better than others....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: SFC expert on September 01, 2010, 10:51:32 PM
It's not like if credit helped that much anyway.You can't buy resources with them so a player who use credits only get a small advantage.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 01, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
Quote from: "SFC expert"
It's not like if credit helped that much anyway.You can't buy resources with them so a player who use credits only get a small advantage.


yes and no.

The Admiral (purchased for 10,000 credits for 1 week) is probably the biggest "helper" to rank increase in the first few days, tactician right behind it, and then after a few days, Geologist runs away with the show.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 01, 2010, 10:58:56 PM
Yeah a geo would net me at least 130k a day right now....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: SGS 6 on September 02, 2010, 03:27:16 AM
I did buy (and use) some credits, but just to get a few Androids, since we couldn't get human workers. Wanted to unlock the missions that require a few crew points. Have mostly been using them in my ore and crystal mines, which are not full (and even if they were full of mine droids, I'd be getting the same boost. And that's only on my homeworld.)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Captain Mephisto on September 02, 2010, 04:04:41 AM
Quote from: "Admiral Firebringer"
First before I read all the posts on this I will say that the alliances listed are feared in EGO not real threats, They can tear it up mind you but they are not the scariest ones. Legion, Unimat0, and others. there are many that have inspired far more fear than the ones here.

UniMart is supposed to scare me?

Quote from: "Master"
Yeah I still have my starting 10k credits... some people just know how to play the game better than others....

Or they just have more time...being ranked number one doesn't always mean your the best. You could just sit at your computer 28 hours a day clicking away....though as time goes on skill will take over...
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 02, 2010, 05:08:06 AM
Quote from: "Captain Mephisto"
Quote from: "Master"
Yeah I still have my starting 10k credits... some people just know how to play the game better than others....

Or they just have more time...being ranked number one doesn't always mean your the best. You could just sit at your computer 28 hours a day clicking away....though as time goes on skill will take over...

This is not the only uni that I am top ten in and besides I haven't spent all that much time all you have to do it check in every 20 minutes for about 1 minute or less and you can do what I did. mining is easy and pays far more than fleeting at this point.

EDIT fixed quote
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Poetic Justice on September 02, 2010, 05:11:37 AM
Quote from: "Master"

This is not the only uni that I am top ten in an besides I haven't spent all that much time all you have to do it check in every 20 minutes for about 1 minute or less and you can do what I did. mining is easy and pays far more than fleeting at this point.

You my friend may be one of the best players SFC has ever seen.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 02, 2010, 05:14:14 AM
Quote from: "Poetic Justice"
Quote from: "Master"

This is not the only uni that I am top ten in an besides I haven't spent all that much time all you have to do it check in every 20 minutes for about 1 minute or less and you can do what I did. mining is easy and pays far more than fleeting at this point.

You my friend may be one of the best players SFC has ever seen.
No I wouldn't go that far. I just know how to mine better than most, although I usually lose my focus and stop mining too early.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Poetic Justice on September 02, 2010, 05:16:04 AM
lol well then lets say this, you may be one of the most respected players I know in SFCx.  So many players respect you.  Keep it up.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: DrZed on September 02, 2010, 07:40:19 AM
Quote from: "Master"
Quote from: "Poetic Justice"
Quote from: "Master"

This is not the only uni that I am top ten in an besides I haven't spent all that much time all you have to do it check in every 20 minutes for about 1 minute or less and you can do what I did. mining is easy and pays far more than fleeting at this point.

You my friend may be one of the best players SFC has ever seen.
No I wouldn't go that far. I just know how to mine better than most, although I usually lose my focus and stop mining too early.

I hear ya on that. Maybe I'll keep it up and stay in the top ten here longer than I did in X. Already frustrated with all the strategic blunders I've made. Not to mention the 14 abandonded planets.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Mona Stangley on September 02, 2010, 08:43:44 AM
Oh DrZed!  :lol:  Last I saw you were doing much better then top ten.  ;)

Of course, it is a close race. Even I am catching up to you... :shock:

(http://http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/MonaStangley/Screenshot2010-09-02at44042AM.png?t=1283416907)

Quote from: "DrZed"
I hear ya on that. Maybe I'll keep it up and stay in the top ten here longer than I did in X. Already frustrated with all the strategic blunders I've made. Not to mention the 14 abandonded planets.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 02, 2010, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: "DrZed"

I hear ya on that. Maybe I'll keep it up and stay in the top ten here longer than I did in X. Already frustrated with all the strategic blunders I've made. Not to mention the 14 abandonded planets.


I'm just curious on your mines right now. I've managed to keep about 1200 points on master since the last day or two, but you, you've managed to narrow the RSP gap. Even after an overnight Build of SA20, and Armor 8, among other things.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 02, 2010, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: "Mona Stangley"
Oh DrZed!  :lol:  Last I saw you were doing much better then top ten.  ;)

Of course, it is a close race. Even I am catching up to you... :shock:

(http://http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/MonaStangley/Screenshot2010-09-02at44042AM.png?t=1283416907)

Quote from: "DrZed"
I hear ya on that. Maybe I'll keep it up and stay in the top ten here longer than I did in X. Already frustrated with all the strategic blunders I've made. Not to mention the 14 abandonded planets.


Its about time someone knocked me off the #1 spot, even if only for an hour. I've been hurdling Krewity's defense/fleet/DSP all week  :lol:
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Chameleon314 on September 02, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
Overall Rank is a joke! You can never use that as a way of deciding who the most feared is. It boils down to 2 criteria. Who has the most and largest ships and who has the most dsp. I fear nobody bacause anyone withing 5 hours of attacking me has less dsp and fleet than me. Just because an alliance can boost their stats by having an insane crew points or 20k probes doesn't mean anyone should fear them. Focus on what's important this DSP not overall rank.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 02, 2010, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: "Chameleon314"
Overall Rank is a joke! You can never use that as a way of deciding who the most feared is. It boils down to 2 criteria. Who has the most and largest ships and who has the most dsp. I fear nobody bacause anyone withing 5 hours of attacking me has less dsp and fleet than me. Just because an alliance can boost their stats by having an insane crew points or 20k probes doesn't mean anyone should fear them. Focus on what's important this DSP not overall rank.

It is a new universe, we have to give it time to figure that kind of stuff out. A lot of guys like myself, are focusing on infrastructure first, ergo, have little to show for DSP or perhaps even a fleet. Not much you can really do at this point, my RSP is so high I am limited to like, the top 400 people to attack. Once a good portion of the universe crosses the 25k mark, then we'll start sorting out who is who  ;)
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 02, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
There are a lot for DSP gained form moon shots too and some people get a lot form unprofitable attacks or even losing their fleets.  DSP can be a good indicator but not by itself.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Chameleon314 on September 02, 2010, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: "Master"
There are a lot for DSP gained form moon shots too and some people get a lot form unprofitable attacks or even losing their fleets.  DSP can be a good indicator but not by itself.

If anyone is moon shotting as this point they deserve to be shot in real life. I totally agree about DSP not being the only indicator but combined with fleet is about as accurate you can get this early in the game.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 02, 2010, 11:20:55 PM
This early in the game you should not be fleeting much. Look at the top players for build points they also have ow DSP. There is a reason we have low DSP and that is that right now missions pay better than 90% of the attacks going on.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 02, 2010, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: "Chameleon314"
Quote from: "Master"
There are a lot for DSP gained form moon shots too and some people get a lot form unprofitable attacks or even losing their fleets.  DSP can be a good indicator but not by itself.

If anyone is moon shotting as this point they deserve to be shot in real life. I totally agree about DSP not being the only indicator but combined with fleet is about as accurate you can get this early in the game.


Pretty sure he was talking about "empty" DSP in the future as compared to achieved DSP. As it sits right now, RSP is the only true indicator, research coming second, and then DSP.

You can attack all day right off the bat with your artemis and apollo, but if they aren't fast enough, or you can't even harvest the debris, or hell, not even profit over mission income, it is a waste to even launch an attack.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Chameleon314 on September 02, 2010, 11:40:29 PM
True but if you keep destroying their ships and taking 1/2 their resources then they will never have a recycler to collect it.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 02, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: "Chameleon314"
True but if you keep destroying their ships and taking 1/2 their resources then they will never have a recycler to collect it.


I think you just missed the point.

If YOU don't have a recycler, or the speed to get to a target in a reasonable amount of time, and don't gain as many resources as you'd get from missions, it would be a waste.

you not necessarily meaning you specifically, but rather, would be attackers.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 02, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
Your thinking like a 2 player game. unless you can keep everyone in the game from advancing from attacking them then you are falling behind by attacking some of them.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BelthazarStarkiller on September 03, 2010, 01:59:03 AM
BLUE FROG GAMING ITSELF. As this company unfairly allows players to form such strong alliances that smaller alliances and independent players really have a hard time. Then at the same time, they have ASS BACKWARDS noobie protection.

I was a player in SFC EXTREME and I just got my ass handed to me by Emperor Lrr of Empire. I was overall ranked in the 3000's and he was in the 100's. Why in the fun was he allowed to attack me? I once had an Alliance member who was ranked about 2200  and I was then ranked 4000, he couldn't Group Defend me or do anything to help me out. And as a 3000 ranked player I can't hit guys who are ranked 5500, but a top player in the game in a huge alliance is allowed to go and use his Oracle to Oracle lock and destroy an up and comer.

I have also had TWO 20 percent moon shots on the same freaking world, with NO MOON and this dude, who happens to be in the top 200, has multiple moons. Can you say RIGGED maybe?

It is at the point that unless a player is in a top Alliance, or rarely attacks anyone and flys under the radar, they really have no hope of really advancing in the game. They will reach a certain point where they can be hit by the bigger dogs, and reach that point a lot sooner than they should, and just get their fleets raped but good.

So the most feared Alliance is BFG, and there policies which right now ensure that in any universe we will see EMPIRE and STAR WARS up at the top. That is just bullshit. I mean it's only been a week and already the top players own the game and unless they really screw up will remain at the top forever. The little dudes will rise to a certain point and then get annihilated and leave the game.

BFG I am done wasting time playing "your game" which is really just a poor rip off of an older video game anyways, with a stolen Star Trek font thrown on and some half-assed graphics, NO sound effects, no music, and no real fun.

I am absolutely amazed that anyone willingly pays credits to play the game. Well BFG: GAME OVER. Another player who could have stayed for a while if your game didn't suck so bad, has quit. A bunch more are likely to follow me.

We are off to play a game that while challenging is at least fun, Starcraft 2.

I went into Vacation Inactive mode. As I could not abandon all my planets I left ONE planet named in tribute to Blue Frog Gaming. BLUE FROG GAMING SUCKS.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Inferno on September 03, 2010, 02:13:30 AM
Could have just left them out there and posted your coordinates.

Do you honestly think anyone actually gives a damn that your quitting?

Dime a Dozen.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Inferno on September 03, 2010, 02:18:57 AM
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Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: SGS 6 on September 03, 2010, 03:06:59 AM
Quote from: "BelthazarStarkiller"
BLUE FROG GAMING ITSELF. As this company unfairly allows players to form such strong alliances that smaller alliances and independent players really have a hard time. Then at the same time, they have ASS BACKWARDS noobie protection.

I was a player in SFC EXTREME and I just got my ass handed to me by Emperor Lrr of Empire. I was overall ranked in the 3000's and he was in the 100's. Why in the fun was he allowed to attack me? I once had an Alliance member who was ranked about 2200  and I was then ranked 4000, he couldn't Group Defend me or do anything to help me out. And as a 3000 ranked player I can't hit guys who are ranked 5500, but a top player in the game in a huge alliance is allowed to go and use his Oracle to Oracle lock and destroy an up and comer.

I have also had TWO 20 percent moon shots on the same freaking world, with NO MOON and this dude, who happens to be in the top 200, has multiple moons. Can you say RIGGED maybe?

It is at the point that unless a player is in a top Alliance, or rarely attacks anyone and flys under the radar, they really have no hope of really advancing in the game. They will reach a certain point where they can be hit by the bigger dogs, and reach that point a lot sooner than they should, and just get their fleets raped but good.

So the most feared Alliance is BFG, and there policies which right now ensure that in any universe we will see EMPIRE and STAR WARS up at the top. That is just bullshit. I mean it's only been a week and already the top players own the game and unless they really screw up will remain at the top forever. The little dudes will rise to a certain point and then get annihilated and leave the game.

BFG I am done wasting time playing "your game" which is really just a poor rip off of an older video game anyways, with a stolen Star Trek font thrown on and some half-assed graphics, NO sound effects, no music, and no real fun.

I am absolutely amazed that anyone willingly pays credits to play the game. Well BFG: GAME OVER. Another player who could have stayed for a while if your game didn't suck so bad, has quit. A bunch more are likely to follow me.

We are off to play a game that while challenging is at least fun, Starcraft 2.

I went into Vacation Inactive mode. As I could not abandon all my planets I left ONE planet named in tribute to Blue Frog Gaming. BLUE FROG GAMING SUCKS.

Just a point. 2 20% moonshots is what, 40%..?

I have a planet in Original that I did 13 moonshots on, at percentages ranging from 7-20% (I think the total was about 135%) before I finally got a moon. Sucked up nearly all of my resources for a solid MONTH.

And I'm a relatively new player in original (started in January, 4 months behind the big boys) and have made it to a ranking of #1800ish. And that is as the leader of a smaller alliance, which you so bash. I've never been in an alliance that was ranked in the top 40 over there.

I don't play Extreme, but jumped into the new universe on the first day and have managed to stay in the top 100, and my alliance (which does not even exist in the other universes) is ranked #9....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 03, 2010, 03:14:13 AM
Quote from: "BelthazarStarkiller"
BLUE FROG GAMING ITSELF. As this company unfairly allows players to form such strong alliances that smaller alliances and independent players really have a hard time. Then at the same time, they have ASS BACKWARDS noobie protection.

I was a player in SFC EXTREME and I just got my ass handed to me by Emperor Lrr of Empire. I was overall ranked in the 3000's and he was in the 100's. Why in the fun was he allowed to attack me? I once had an Alliance member who was ranked about 2200  and I was then ranked 4000, he couldn't Group Defend me or do anything to help me out. And as a 3000 ranked player I can't hit guys who are ranked 5500, but a top player in the game in a huge alliance is allowed to go and use his Oracle to Oracle lock and destroy an up and comer.

I have also had TWO 20 percent moon shots on the same freaking world, with NO MOON and this dude, who happens to be in the top 200, has multiple moons. Can you say RIGGED maybe?

It is at the point that unless a player is in a top Alliance, or rarely attacks anyone and flys under the radar, they really have no hope of really advancing in the game. They will reach a certain point where they can be hit by the bigger dogs, and reach that point a lot sooner than they should, and just get their fleets raped but good.

So the most feared Alliance is BFG, and there policies which right now ensure that in any universe we will see EMPIRE and STAR WARS up at the top. That is just bullshit. I mean it's only been a week and already the top players own the game and unless they really screw up will remain at the top forever. The little dudes will rise to a certain point and then get annihilated and leave the game.

BFG I am done wasting time playing "your game" which is really just a poor rip off of an older video game anyways, with a stolen Star Trek font thrown on and some half-assed graphics, NO sound effects, no music, and no real fun.

I am absolutely amazed that anyone willingly pays credits to play the game. Well BFG: GAME OVER. Another player who could have stayed for a while if your game didn't suck so bad, has quit. A bunch more are likely to follow me.

We are off to play a game that while challenging is at least fun, Starcraft 2.

I went into Vacation Inactive mode. As I could not abandon all my planets I left ONE planet named in tribute to Blue Frog Gaming. BLUE FROG GAMING SUCKS.


Complete Nerd Rage.

You aren't allowed to cry on these forums about moonshots.

You had two 20% moonshots? Wow. I am so sorry for you. I couldn't imagine how you would feel if you had gone through, say.......412% worth of moonshots without getting one, yet gave out 9 in the process.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Hawkins on September 03, 2010, 02:49:59 PM
Quote from: "BelthazarStarkiller"
BLUE FROG GAMING ITSELF. As this company unfairly allows players to form such strong alliances that smaller alliances and independent players really have a hard time. Then at the same time, they have ASS BACKWARDS noobie protection.

I was a player in SFC EXTREME and I just got my ass handed to me by Emperor Lrr of Empire. I was overall ranked in the 3000's and he was in the 100's. Why in the fun was he allowed to attack me? I once had an Alliance member who was ranked about 2200  and I was then ranked 4000, he couldn't Group Defend me or do anything to help me out. And as a 3000 ranked player I can't hit guys who are ranked 5500, but a top player in the game in a huge alliance is allowed to go and use his Oracle to Oracle lock and destroy an up and comer.

I have also had TWO 20 percent moon shots on the same freaking world, with NO MOON and this dude, who happens to be in the top 200, has multiple moons. Can you say RIGGED maybe?

It is at the point that unless a player is in a top Alliance, or rarely attacks anyone and flys under the radar, they really have no hope of really advancing in the game. They will reach a certain point where they can be hit by the bigger dogs, and reach that point a lot sooner than they should, and just get their fleets raped but good.

So the most feared Alliance is BFG, and there policies which right now ensure that in any universe we will see EMPIRE and STAR WARS up at the top. That is just bullshit. I mean it's only been a week and already the top players own the game and unless they really screw up will remain at the top forever. The little dudes will rise to a certain point and then get annihilated and leave the game.

BFG I am done wasting time playing "your game" which is really just a poor rip off of an older video game anyways, with a stolen Star Trek font thrown on and some half-assed graphics, NO sound effects, no music, and no real fun.

I am absolutely amazed that anyone willingly pays credits to play the game. Well BFG: GAME OVER. Another player who could have stayed for a while if your game didn't suck so bad, has quit. A bunch more are likely to follow me.

We are off to play a game that while challenging is at least fun, Starcraft 2.

I went into Vacation Inactive mode. As I could not abandon all my planets I left ONE planet named in tribute to Blue Frog Gaming. BLUE FROG GAMING SUCKS.

SHUT UP! YOU SUCK!
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: President Penny on September 03, 2010, 05:18:56 PM
Quote
Complete Nerd Rage.

You aren't allowed to cry on these forums about moonshots.

Could not have said it better myself.  Moonshots are NOT rigged silly rabbit.  Only everyone else ganging up on you.... opps I said too much....
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Khan Boylemeister on September 03, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
I don't know if the nerd rage will allow this guy to come back here to read the forums again, but if so I want to put my two cents in as one of the 'smaller' players.

In extreme I am in a small alliance of around 30. I started there, didn't play in Original as I calculated I only had time for one when I started.

I started Uni 2 on the first day, and held on to a 200 spot for about two days. I don't have as much time as some others, but I build what I can when I can and I keep my ships safe. I am rarely attacked, and even more rarely for actual losses, in both extreme and Uni 2.

All you have to do, if you look through the wiki, these forums, and the various battle report sections, is to keep your friggin ships safe! If you are not online, they need to be on a harvest mission until you are going to be back online.

I have been playing X since February. I have lost one fleet in that time, and I watched it happen as I got a Not a Number error during a fleetsave in which I tried at the last second to make it a moonshot instead and save my soft ships. My own error, not any favouritism on BFG's part or any 'big' alliance. And it wasn't even a big fleet.

As far as the original topic goes, there is no 'most' feared alliance if you know what you're doing. You can be a part time player, as long as you know when you're going to be online next and can plan your fleetsaves accordingly.
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: DrZed on September 03, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: "BrianC"
Quote from: "DrZed"

I hear ya on that. Maybe I'll keep it up and stay in the top ten here longer than I did in X. Already frustrated with all the strategic blunders I've made. Not to mention the 14 abandonded planets.


I'm just curious on your mines right now. I've managed to keep about 1200 points on master since the last day or two, but you, you've managed to narrow the RSP gap. Even after an overnight Build of SA20, and Armor 8, among other things.

This is the first time I've played on the direct site, so I don't have any of those wonderfully helpful tools installed, and just now did a spreadsheet to get myself organized.  About 1.6M rez per day.

I didn't try out mafia boss and these mines are taking some getting used to. We'll be talking level 30 mines in no time even at 1x speed. I've decided to keep my mid range planets (140-180) for now, but I fear with the increased mine production, even the 180 won't make it to the end.

Has anyone done a spreadsheet for mines at these production levels?
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: Master on September 03, 2010, 09:25:02 PM
I havent done a spread sheet but I was up to 29/26/14 on several planets in MB in about 10 weeks so I have dumped all of my sub 200 planets in uni2 since they will not last and will hurt more later to dump. Only 2 left to dump now...
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: chevy_chase on September 04, 2010, 06:11:50 PM
wow a uni 2. :D
Title: Re: Most Feared Alliance
Post by: BrianC on September 04, 2010, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: "chevy_chase"
wow a uni 2. :D

Welcome to the party, just in time for me to lose #1 for a few weeks  ;)