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Should there be a change in the suspeinsion mechanic?

Yes
27 (84.4%)
No
5 (15.6%)

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Voting closed: July 11, 2011, 06:13:26 PM

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Offline LEEJANDZ

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"Your account has been suspended"
« on: July 11, 2011, 06:13:26 PM »
I just logged into the game to find this:
"Your account has been suspended - You were suspended for: suspicious activity"

This "feature" should be adjusted immediately!!!

I believe there are certain players (alliances) that take advantage of BFG's "support" to suspend players.

In AMERICA... we have a concept called "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"
AND we have the right to "face our accuser."

Without an explanation of what my "suspicious activity" is...
or who instigated the suspension...
I am taken out of the game for an indefinite amount of time.

THIS IS NOT A FAIR PRACTICE!!!



If anything... I am guilty of persistence.
I launch multiple blind attacks against targets within my "zone of operation" at 100%

If a player/s (alliance) do NOT like this methodology...
getting me suspended is not the proper retribution or retaliatory method that should be a game mechanic.

When I launch a fleet at a significant personal cost in hydro and lost ships against another player's defenses...
why should I be punished for it?



My last trouble ticket to BFG went un-answered (relative to broken DINOS)
and my "suspicious behavior" is no different than what the "big boys" in G18 do to me each and every day.

I believe that BFG should follow AMERICAN procedures and allow players to KNOW and FACE their accusers...
and then have the opportunity to present their case BEFORE a suspension is put into place.
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Offline jarrett

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 06:17:28 PM »
I voted yes, but only because cheaters should be more harshly punished.
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 06:33:41 PM »
And I am sure there IS a way to PROVE that cheaters/cheating exists.

But what frustrates ME is that no one has told me what I did "wrong."

I just get a nice little "vacation" from the game.
And I was looking forward to playing over the next few days before going into (d) for the weekend.

(audible sigh)
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 06:42:02 PM »
I am serious.

I think the in game notification should say:
"Player X has accused YOU of pushing.. and has presented screen shots in support of this.
Your account has been put into (TS - temporary suspension) and you may NOT launch attacks or be attacked until this issue has been resolved."

And IF player X submits false information...
THEY should get (s) instead.
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Offline Victor Doom

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 06:58:22 PM »
:evil: I don't like going one direction or the other when it comes to suspension complaints like this without knowing more... BFG has administrative access to their servers and privy to more information then I can garner...

 Coming onto the Forums and screaming innocence is not in my opinion proof that you are...

 I stated once long ago I have yet to see someone get suspended and come on the forums and go.. you got me... I was cheating..  :evil:

 Of course, the conspiracy theorist part of me wonders if this post is just a smokescreen to attempt to appease the plebes that suspensions are actually being doled out and that there's enforcement going on...

 So some no-name account noone has heard of somewhere just got suspended... Woohoo... BFG must be working hard to enforce the integrity of the game...
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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 08:14:58 PM »
Since you sound like you know now what you are suspended for, what is it?   Who are the big boys of G18 and what do they do?      Not allowed per Matt to accuse people of cheating anymore without proof.
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 08:42:45 PM »
I submitted a ticket prior to posting in the forum.
I have NOT heard back from anyone at BFG and my ticket says:
"This request is awaiting assignment to a help desk operator"



My concern is that I was suspended as a "method" to stop attacking certain players/alliances.

I do NOT see anything wrong with probing a location...
seeing a fleet...
launching my own fleet.

Rinse and Repeat.

My comments about G18 were about the SAME tactics used against me multiple times a day.

I think it would be unfair of me to "tattle" to BFG that player "A" or player "X" is "harassing" me...
when ALL they are doing is trying to break my toys.

It frustrates me...
as I can imagine MY targets are frustrated as well.

But last I checked...
just because someone sends you a message saying:
"I am F/R saved" or "I am online"
does NOT mean you can NOT attack them!

I spent somewhere in the neighborhood of three million hydro in past 24 hours launching against targets.
I think I was successful in destroying 17 HERCS.

But every target that I launched at HAD a fleet and I HAVE the espis/battle reports to prove that.

I am NOT Bashing anyone.
Nor am I engaged in any "war."

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To clarify things...
what I want to see is the reasoning WHY a player gets suspended...
before ANY player gets suspended.

If attacking someone is considered "harassment" then I am going to submit tickets on EVERYONE who attacks me.

(sarcasm)

I say... let the players play!!!
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 08:47:21 PM »
I will post BFG's response when (if) I receive one...
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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 08:49:52 PM »
Quote from: "LEEJANDZ"
But last I checked...
just because someone sends you a message saying:
"I am F/R saved" or "I am online"
does NOT mean you can NOT attack them!
Ahh. See, now we are getting into the new grey area. That being profitability.

BFG claims that attacks that are not profitable are harassment. This is a policy I do not agree with.

So, if you attack, and someone says they are going to FRS, then hypotheticaly there goes the profitability, and you are in the realm of harassment.

But my question is, whats if they say they will FRS and then do not?
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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 08:56:10 PM »
Quote from: "LHDR"
So, if you attack, and someone says they are going to FRS, then hypotheticaly there goes the profitability, and you are in the realm of harassment.

But my question is, whats if they say they will FRS and then do not?
This is not a gray area. If you attack and they have not FRS yet, it's completely legal. The ruling was that it has to have the possibility to be profitable at time the attack is launched. So if the fleet is sitting there and they are threatening to FRS, it's legal. If they have already FRS, it's not.
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 09:17:00 PM »
This is what I am having issues with.

I believe that certain players (alliances) use "harassing" as grounds for suspension.
If one were to look at my espis and follow up attacks.
More than 9 out of 10 times I launch BECAUSE there IS a fleet there.

I blind launch only when I have been watching a player's F/R patterns and think I can catch them...
OR if the (*) is ALWAYS lit up.

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Whether my own actions constitute a suspendable offense is moot.

What I do NOT like is the ability for A player to accuse ANOTHER player of something...
and get away with it.



My SATS were destroyed in G18 by a player who KNEW I was online.
Does THAT count as profitability?

I am not going to argue the point of profit...
but is that grounds for "harassment?"
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Offline LEEJANDZ

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 09:17:49 PM »
I forgot to mention that under the "current system" of suspension...
the suspended player (me) has NO idea WHY he has gotten suspended.
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Offline the red emperor

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 09:42:25 PM »
I miss your suicide probes already  :) let me know when you are back
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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 09:59:16 PM »
Was that YOU who got me suspended?

I did not even launch any attacks against you.
Though I HAVE seen that pretty little fleet you have tucked away in slot 7.
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Offline the red emperor

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Re: "Your account has been suspended"
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 10:24:00 PM »
why would i get you suspended? i just collect debris. i dont even know how to submit a ticket.
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