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Offline psmitty

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2013, 04:42:59 AM »
Well, I posted the above to help in some way.  Not sure if I did or not.
I still will not attack any regular NPC's until the battle calc's out there are updated with the new specs. 

Offline Boris Alden

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2013, 05:58:03 PM »
Well your lucky to find a zero tech.

I would not send fast ships requiring that much hydro......

Just means more money down the drain to replace hydro used.

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2013, 10:59:12 PM »
Ok MATT im going to have to demand sum answers on this one..i decided to try a bigger battle so i sent extra dios and expected a bad outcome but over 3x the losses on this one is absolutely unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIX this problem or u can kiss my a$$ goodbye and my 50-100$ each month..






In the attack from St☆rr Dock ‎‎[1:xx:9m] on Large Floating Colony ‎‎[1:xx:15]:

The attacking side acquired 15,246,619 ore, 20,947,190 crystal, and 15,055,984 hydrogen.

Urcath (DEFENDER) lost 23,583,697 RSP and gained 0 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 23,583,697 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 14,116,490,500 ore, 7,802,974,500 crystal, and 1,668,312,000 hydrogen in damages.

  * Lost   36594 of   36594 Artemis Class Fighters      (0 remain).
  * Lost   63365 of   63365 Atlas Class Cargos          (0 remain).
  * Lost    8160 of    8160 Apollo Class Fighters       (0 remain).
  * Lost   12109 of   12109 Zagreus Class Recyclers     (0 remain).
  * Lost   13127 of   13127 Hercules Class Cargos       (0 remain).
  * Lost   45675 of   45675 Dionysus Class Recyclers    (0 remain).
  * Lost    8286 of    8286 Poseidon Class Cruisers     (0 remain).
  * Lost    7936 of    7936 Carmanor Class Cargos       (0 remain).
  * Lost   16075 of   16075 Athena Class Battleships    (0 remain).
  * Lost   12202 of   12202 Hades Class Battleships     (0 remain).
  * Lost   13346 of   13346 Ares Class Bombers          (0 remain).
  * Lost   34201 of   34201 Prometheus Class Destroyers (0 remain).
  * Lost      27 of      27 Zeus Classes                (0 remain).
  * Lost  943191 of  943191 Laser Cannons               (0 remain).
  * Lost 2222040 of 2222040 Missile Batteries           (0 remain).
  * Lost  126530 of  126530 Pulse Cannons               (0 remain).
  * Lost  316516 of  316516 Particle Cannons            (0 remain).
  * Lost       1 of       1 Decoys                      (0 remain).
  * Lost   41383 of   41383 Gauss Cannons               (0 remain).
  * Lost       1 of       1 Large Decoys                (0 remain).
  * Lost   18076 of   18076 Plasma Cannons              (0 remain).
       

new starr federation (ATTACKER) lost 8,353,964 RSP and gained 4,913,848 DSP. (less)
  * Contributed 187,666,462 RSP to the battle.
  * Lost 6,217,808,000 ore, 2,467,357,000 crystal, and 25,785,000 hydrogen in damages.
  * Acquired 15,246,619 ore, 20,947,190 crystal, and 15,055,984 hydrogen in plunder.

  * Lost 472752 of 2222222 Artemis Class Fighters      (1749470 remain).
  * Lost 713972 of 8888888 Apollo Class Fighters       (8174916 remain).
  * Lost   9566 of  999999 Athena Class Battleships    ( 990433 remain).
  * Lost    384 of   55555 Hades Class Battleships     (  55171 remain).
  * Lost    637 of  122222 Ares Class Bombers          ( 121585 remain).
  * Lost    698 of  255555 Prometheus Class Destroyers ( 254857 remain).
       


3,405,510,000 ore and 1,836,640,500 crystal are now floating at this location.



here was a normal calc sim...

http://battlementat.com/#aApollo=8888888&aAres=122222&aArmor=18&aArtemis=2222222&aAthena=999999&aJet=21&aLocation=1%3A64%3A9&aPoseidon=0&aPrometheus=255555&aPropulsionMechanic=1&aPulse=18&aShield=19&aSpeed=60&aWarp=16&aWeapons=18&aZeus=0&dApollo=8160&dAres=13346&dArmor=21&dArtemis=36594&dAthena=16075&dAtlas=63365&dCarmanor=7936&dCrystal=41894381&dDecoy=1&dDionysus=45675&dGauss=41383&dHades=12202&dHercules=13127&dHydrogen=30111968&dLarge=1&dLaser=943191&dLocation=1%3A66%3A15e&dMissile=2222040&dOre=30493239&dParticle=316516&dPlasma=18076&dPoseidon=8286&dPrometheus=34201&dPulse=126530&dRSP=29459800&dShield=21&dWeapons=21&dZagreus=12109&dZeus=27&universe=extreme2




here was what happened really...i had to bump up the calc sim on the NPC weapons tech to 58 yes weapons tech 58!!!!!!!!!

http://battlementat.com/#aApollo=8888888&aAres=122222&aArmor=18&aArtemis=2222222&aAthena=999999&aHades=55555&aJet=21&aLocation=1%3A64%3A9&aPoseidon=0&aPrometheus=255555&aPulse=18&aShield=19&aWarp=16&aWeapons=18&aZeus=0&dApollo=8160&dAres=13346&dArmor=21&dArtemis=36594&dAthena=16075&dAtlas=63365&dCarmanor=7936&dCrystal=41894381&dDecoy=1&dDionysus=45675&dGauss=41383&dHades=12202&dHercules=13127&dHydrogen=30111968&dLarge=1&dLaser=943191&dLocation=1%3A66%3A15e&dMissile=2222040&dOre=30493239&dParticle=316516&dPlasma=18076&dPoseidon=8286&dPrometheus=34201&dPulse=126530&dRSP=29459800&dShield=21&dWeapons=58&dZagreus=12109&dZeus=27&universe=extreme2


come on MATT and please dont give me the hogwash about its the calcs fault because its from a third party..thats jus lame..im very upset that i cant do large attacks due to the algorithm of larger battles..

this is plain retarded and u know it..

tell me how this kind of battle is deemed acceptable..i wasted half a BILLION fuel on this..thats crazy..
Watch out here i come..

Offline Despicableme

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2013, 02:18:12 AM »
See i would hit that... BUT i would not launch with all that fodder. YOU brought it over the 10M ship mark.... I would launch with 800K proms and 300K ares and walk with 900K clear along with 9M dsp or 4.5 whatever it is. thats at full speed.. add in recycler to slow it down... 1B clear


total ships losses for that battle

ares 10K
proms 8k


R.I.P Baby!!!

Offline Jacq

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2013, 10:17:45 AM »
Yeah I don't get why you are sending so many apollo for sure.       I simmed with 250K ares and 1,800K proms and got 1,779K RSP gain which is an acceptable gain for me.     
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Offline new starr federation

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2013, 01:54:32 PM »
See i would hit that... BUT i would not launch with all that fodder. YOU brought it over the 10M ship mark.... I would launch with 800K proms and 300K ares and walk with 900K clear along with 9M dsp or 4.5 whatever it is. thats at full speed.. add in recycler to slow it down... 1B clear


total ships losses for that battle

ares 10K
proms 8k



i could have sent anything at it but it was a test to see if this issue had been fixed and it hasnt..why even have ships if u cant use them..its eventually going to effect even the prom attacks as we all grow..the point wasnt about keeping it under 10m..it was to give proof that we no longer can sent more than 10m ships in battle without horrific losses..i have tens of millions of ships that i cant even use because they screwed with the game after i invested in this fleet..i should be a able to trade in my useless ships for ones that i can lose if they cant fix the battle algorithm..this is a shady move on their part..i hold the #3 fleet spot in the uni and it means nothing if im not able to use them..i have even missed out on a few great large battles due to the broken game..i couldnt risk lossing all my ships because they wont have the large battles fixed and thats criminal if ya ask me..
Watch out here i come..

Offline Callum Roberts

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2013, 09:23:13 PM »
It is an issue, but the example you posted, waste one as you were responsible for putting in to large battle.
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Offline new starr federation

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2013, 05:51:58 PM »
so the algorithm still is out of balance..


target..

Encounter Large Floating Colony [3:375:8e] has:
RESOURCES:
* ore: 68,511,555 
* crystal: 118,992,323 
* hydrogen: 98,573,474 
================================
Total plunder: 143,038,676 (1145 carm / 5722 herc / 28608 atlas)
DSP: 30,971,974 (878104 Dios / 3512416 Zags)

KRUG'S SHIPS:
* Artemis Class Fighter: 53,131
* Atlas Class Cargo: 2,659,307
* Apollo Class Fighter: 17,190
* Zagreus Class Recycler: 19,412
* Hercules Class Cargo: 317,111
* Dionysus Class Recycler: 586,857
* Poseidon Class Cruiser: 7,897
* Carmanor Class Cargo: 476,762
* Athena Class Battleship: 66,399
* Ares Class Bomber: 775
* Hades Class Battleship: 104,270
* Prometheus Class Destroyer: 6,913
* Zeus Class: 524

DEFENSES:
* Missile Battery: 16,221,038
* Laser Cannon: 9,284,146
* Pulse Cannon: 874,087
* Particle Cannon: 2,742,131
* Decoy: 1
* Gauss Cannon: 205,762
* Large Decoy: 1
* Plasma Cannon: 104,489

TECHS:
* Armor Tech: 19
* Weapons Tech: 19
* Shield Tech: 19



battle report..


new starr federation led an attack on Krug at Large Floating Colony ‎‎[3:375:8].
The following emerged from battle after 6 Round(s)

*****Attacker: new starr federation with 515,160,000,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Zeus : 50271  (Lost: 1245 of 51516)
** Resources lost: 6,225,000,000 ore, 4,980,000,000 crystal, and 1,245,000,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 26,256,552

*****Defender: Krug with 61,952,543,000 RSP involved (initial fleet RSP) *****
Artemis : 7479  (Lost: 45652 of 53131)
Atlas : 374297  (Lost: 2285010 of 2659307)
Apollo : 2422  (Lost: 14768 of 17190)
Zagreus : 2735  (Lost: 16677 of 19412)
Hercules : 44629  (Lost: 272482 of 317111)
Dionysus : 82581  (Lost: 504276 of 586857)
Poseidon : 1115  (Lost: 6782 of 7897)
Carmanor : 67087  (Lost: 409675 of 476762)
Athena : 9347  (Lost: 57052 of 66399)
Ares : 112  (Lost: 663 of 775)
Hades : 14675  (Lost: 89595 of 104270)
Prometheus : 976  (Lost: 5937 of 6913)
Zeus : 145  (Lost: 379 of 524)
Missile : 2282643  (Lost: 13938395 of 16221038)
Laser : 1305967  (Lost: 7978179 of 9284146)
Pulse : 122991  (Lost: 751096 of 874087)
Particle : 385875  (Lost: 2356256 of 2742131)
Decoy : 1
Gauss : 28945  (Lost: 176817 of 205762)
Large decoy: 1
Plasma : 14706  (Lost: 89783 of 104489)
** Ship Resources lost: 26,605,971,000 ore, 23,053,800,000 crystal, and 2,860,718,000 hydrogen.
** Total Resources lost: 83,694,607,500 ore, 49,824,022,500 crystal, and 5,907,842,000 hydrogen.
** Destroyed Ship Points Gained: 12,450,000

After 6 rounds of combat: The attacking side acquired 0 resources.
Some of the enemy's defenses were rebuilt.
9,849,291,300 ore and 8,410,184,700 crystal are now floating at this location.


changed the defenders weapons tech to 47..yes 47..its ridiculous..instead of 30 or so lost..or even maybe 300..nope 1245..jus stupid



http://battlementat.com/#aArmor=18&aJet=20&aLocation=3%3A344%3A7&aPulse=17&aShield=19&aWarp=15&aWeapons=19&aZeus=51516&dApollo=17190&dAres=775&dArmor=19&dArtemis=53131&dAthena=66399&dAtlas=2659307&dCarmanor=476762&dCrystal=118992323&dDecoy=1&dDionysus=586857&dGauss=205762&dHades=104270&dHercules=317111&dHydrogen=98573474&dLarge=1&dLaser=9284146&dLocation=3%3A375%3A8e&dMissile=16221038&dOre=68511555&dParticle=2742131&dPlasma=104489&dPoseidon=7897&dPrometheus=6913&dPulse=874087&dRSP=164557543&dShield=19&dWeapons=47&dZagreus=19412&dZeus=524&universe=extreme2
Watch out here i come..

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2013, 07:34:06 PM »
You should quit depending on the calculator until it's sorted. Fat Budha has not yet announced that it is ready for the LBA.

Offline wesnalk

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2013, 07:41:06 PM »
not losing any thanes maybe you should play a universe thats more current. 

Offline Boris Alden

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2013, 08:40:48 PM »
Just be happy with your rank instead of catching boris, remember the rank boris had was bought and you played from day one, your accomplishments are your own.

Stop you whining.....

My rank and my fleet and everything else is a reflection of 18 hrs a day playing........

It's your choice to do nothing but bad mouth other players.

We all choose to play.

Ask any of the top 5 it's called blood sweat and tears...... many give up a lot for the time they put in the game.

And then a sad little fat man pokes fun and ridicules them.

Play the game or leave.
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Offline The Blood King

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Re: Still not right...
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2013, 12:05:43 AM »
*snorts and giggles*  8)

Not that i was whining...but the way you just came off? Classic.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 12:11:50 AM by The Blood King »

 

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