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Offline Maloar

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Re: Loans
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 03:53:10 PM »
[facepalm]
this has already been commented on in other threads.  If you are caught you will face punishment.  If you want to risk it, hoping not to get caught, that's your business.  However, don't have any illusions about it not being pushing.
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Offline markjacques6

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Re: Loans
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 05:51:39 PM »
Well it does look like they don't like you loaning resource to a lower ranker then being able to get them them back in a nice easy way. I asked them for the rules on pushing. Here are the message's sent and received.
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      The giving of resources (including debris and moonshots), in any method, to a player with higher Resources Spent points is considered to be pushing.

Mar-22 2010 12:05.
 
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      can a lower ranked player tell a higher ranked player to attack them.

Mar-22 2010 12:20.
 
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      As in, "attack me to take my resources and debris"? If that is what you mean, it is considered to to be pushing.

Mar-22 2010 12:38.
 
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      There is some one in the forums wanting a loan of a friend that is a higher ranker but isn't sure if there was some way of paying is friend back when he can. Is there any way that this can be done?

Mar-22 2010 12:56.
 
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      The only way that it can is by doing multiple favorable trades within the required ratios. By doing several trades back and forth, you can effectively "give" resources this way.

Mar-22 2010 13:32.
 
I would say that if you really did want to do it then Communicate out of the game to arrange everything then there is no way of getting caught. It will just look like a normal attack. probably 1 attack in 1,000,000.

I tried to find a loophole and i might have found one
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Offline Vanessa

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Re: Loans
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2010, 06:20:02 PM »
This part is interesting

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from Markjacques6
...Is there any way that this can be done?

from John Hunka  of  Blue Frog Gaming
The only way that it can is by doing multiple favorable trades within the required ratios. By doing several trades back and forth, you can effectively "give" resources this way.

Does that mean that multiple favorable trades is a legal method of transferring resources to the higher-ranked player?

For example.

Trade 1:
Lower Ranked: gives 20000 Ore
Higher Ranked: gives 10000 Hydrogen

Trade 2:
Lower Ranked: gives 10000 Hydrogen
Higher Ranked: gives 3334 Ore


Essentially, the 10000 Hydrogen is passed back and forth; but the Lower Ranked has a "net loss" of 16666 Ore, and the Higher Ranked has a "net gain" of 16666 Ore.

I had thought that doing this kind of multiple trades is actually considered pushing; but it seems John Hunka is saying it's legal??
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Offline markjacques6

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Re: Loans
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 12:32:08 PM »
Yeah, straight from a member of blue frog. Problem solved!!!
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